High school SubGenius club prompts Satanist outrage

From: revjim@strangegames.com (Reverend Jim)
Newsgroups: alt.slack,alt.satanism
Date: Thu, Oct 3, 2002 9:32 AM

SAN MATEO -- A group of San Mateo High School students trying to stir
up controversy formed a club based on the Church of the SubGenius, a
religion typically associated with hedonistic philosophy and dark
rituals. Calling themselves The SubGenius Thought Society,
co-president of the club James Donothing admits he originally started
the club with his friend Matt Heeney to "rile things up a bit."

But now that the two juniors have studied the teachings of J.R. "Bob"
Dobbs, epopt of the Church of the SubGenius, they say Slack helps
people to express themselves.

"Its ('Bob's') purpose is to turn man back into a natural state and
not have him corrupted by religion," Doolittle said.

The club does not worship "Bob", he said, as some may think.

In a flier posted around the school, the club says its goal is to
divide church from state completely.

The flier also says the club's purpose is to make the community
realize that "The Church of the SubGenius is not the practice of
resurrecting hate and violence through evil spirits, nor is it a cult
religion wherein people worship a grinning face symbolic of the leader
of hell."

"'Bob' doesn't support hate for no reason," Donothing said. "'Bob'
says it's OK to feel hate, because hating allows them to hate even
more."

While the Church of the SubGenius does practice rituals, he said the
club will not be doing this.

Furthermore, Donothing stressed that the club is not about hurting
others.

"We don't want people to associate us with any violence," he said.

At the club's first meeting on Wednesday during the school's lunch
hour approximately 35 students attended.

"The club is about sharing opinions and views," said Associate Student
Body President Joey Izzo, who attended the meeting and joined the
club.

The two students were successful in riling up parents as well as a few
students.

Pam Cachay said she couldn't believe it when her 10th-grade daughter
told her it was announced on the school's loudspeaker that a Satanism
club had formed.

"The parents I've talked to are outraged," she said.

Her 15-year-old daughter, Larena Whattam, was equally offended when
she heard about the club.

"I was completely appalled. I'm a Satanist and I love Satan," said
Whattam, who is member of the school's Satanist Club.

Cachay said a group of parents and others in the community will be
protesting the club on Tuesday at 12:30 p.m. in front of the
performing arts building.

What angers her the most is the school's support of the club.

"It's just a negative that doesn't belong in the school," she said.

But Principal Jacqueline McEvoy is quick to point out that under the
federal Equal Access Act for Secondary Schools, the school must allow
this club to exist.

In an e-mail to 300 parents, McEvoy wrote that this law requires that
schools allow a limited open forum for clubs. It also said the
students in the club are not devil worshipers and they will not be
performing rituals.

"These young men are really interested in the philosophical teachings
of alternative religions," she said.

Jann Westfall, president of the Parent Teacher Organization, supports
the school's reasoning for allowing the club.

"I don't think we should tell kids what they can and can't learn, as
long as it doesn't hurt anyone."

While McEvoy said she has received calls from members of the religious
community angry about the club's formation, Father Harold Snider of
the First Church of Satan in Burlingame said the First Amendment is
behind these students.

"Lets face it, teenagers love to shock," he said. "The best thing to
do about it is to not make a big deal."

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From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>

In article <e028aced.0210030532.74fc2592@posting.google.com>, Reverend
Jim <revjim@strangegames.com> wrote:

> High school SubGenius club prompts Satanist outrage
>

I will give this to Lonesome Cowboy Dave to read on the radio in his
fractured way. He will probably *believe* it. He has believed every one
of Nu-Monet's news releases that I've given him. He is remarkably
gullible for a put-on artist. But many of us are like that. Can dish it
out, but can't take it.

--
4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected (Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.)
P.O. Box 181417, Cleveland, OH 44118 (fax 216-320-9528)
A subsidiary of:
The SubGenius Foundation, Inc. / P.O. Box 204206, Austin, TX 78720-4206
Dobbs-Approved Authorized Commercial Outreach of The Church of the SubGenius
SubSITE: http://www.subgenius.com
For SubGenius Biz & Orders: call toll free to 1-888-669-2323
or email: jesus@subgenius.com
PRABOB

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From: "nu-monet v5.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>

Rev. Ivan Stang eeetor!:
>
> Reverend Jim worted:
>
> > High school SubGenius club prompts Satanist outrage
> >
>
> I will give this to Lonesome Cowboy Dave to read on
> the radio in his fractured way. He will probably
> *believe* it. He has believed every one of Nu-Monet's
> news releases that I've given him. He is remarkably
> gullible for a put-on artist. But many of us are like
> that. Can dish it out, but can't take it.
>

Are you meaning to imply that some of the news stories
I've posted are less than accurate? Shocked. I am.
Shocked.

Was it the one about there being a dearth of individuals
who wanted to become jack booted thugs? Like the recent
headlines about mass desertions from the INS and the Air
Marshall Service? That you just CAN'T have the kind of
Police State like you did in THE GOOD OLD DAYS anymore,
because TOO MANY PEOPLE JUST WANT TO *SLACK* OFF?

Or was it that George Orwell's '1984' came to pass, but
NOBODY NOTICED or CARED? Or was it the "news story"
about Britney Shpears being a soulless and talentless
pile of studio crud with really rubbery, semi-detached
nipples with huge areolas that if you took a pinch of
them with your fingers you could pull them straight out
like a foot and a half and they would sproing back, but
look a lot more wrinkly?

Or JUST MAYBE you are casting doubt on my UNPUBLISHED
EXPOSE of you and "Bob" and what *really* happened to
that herd of albino Vietnamese pot-bellied dogs?

--
Just remember that the road of abnormality is
neither the path of the less beaten nor the
road not naked; and that you can lead a whore
to Slack, but you cannot make a silkier knout
from a fig giver. Or kill me.
-- nu-monet

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From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>

In article <3D9C9980.70D9@succeeds.com>, nu-monet v5.0
<nothing@succeeds.com> wrote:

>
> Or JUST MAYBE you are casting doubt on my UNPUBLISHED
> EXPOSE of you and "Bob" and what *really* happened to
> that herd of albino Vietnamese pot-bellied dogs?

It was a PACK, not a herd.

-- ----------------------------------------------------------------------

From: maxpontifex@yahoo.it (Pontifex Maximus)

The KOPIO Experiment:
"The physicists who designed KOPIO are looking
for a very rare reaction with the potential to
explain the observed lack of symmetry between
matter and anti-matter in the universe." ...
http://www.bnl.gov/rsvp/KOPIO.htm

And speaking of "The Minority Report" by PKD...
http://www.philipkdick.com/news/mr-cover-lg.jpg

******************

"... One must speculate as to the effects of these
combined events on Phil's [Philip K. Dick] mind on
that fateful February day in 1974. Phil's interest
in early Christianity, and his friendship with
James A. Pike, the Episcopal Bishop of California,
dating back to the mid-sixties, has been
well-documented in several of his novels.
Could this combination of circumstances culminate
in the results that were to follow?"
http://www.alphane.com/moon/PalmTree/2-3-74.htm
[...]
PKD the Dreamer. People claim that it is through
dreams, intuitive flashes, and visions that they
experience spontaneous past-life recall, and
researchers look for the sudden acquisition of
knowledge or information by the individual that
cannot be explained by other means. Australian
aborigines receive their knowledge about spiritual
matters, as well as practical information
about how to survive in an extremely hostile
environment, through dreaming. They call it
the "dreamtime".

When looking at the series of events that happened
to Phil we must ask ourselves how they relate to
each other. Which ones were primary events, and
which ones were secondary events or even tertiary
events resulting from the previous ones.
As Lawrence Sutin, author of Divine Invasions:
A Life of Philip K. Dick states, "Phil was a living
psychic caldron" at this point. I feel that the
many dreams experienced by Phil during this time
period must be thought of in these terms.

In the following weeks Phil was to have a series
of nightmares, which frightened him further; they
contained huge flying reptiles. In one of these
dreams he describes that he was a young child in
a prehistoric tribe and as these dragons came near
he transformed into his pet saber-tooth tiger and
began to posture in defiance, but he found himself
in a cage without means of escape. Upon being
aroused from her sleep by "... the sound of a
large reptile hissing," his wife, Tessa, found "
... Phil lying there, still asleep, hissing.
Afraid to touch him, I called out his name. I was
getting more scared with every second that passed.
I sensed that it was not Phil who was hissing,
but some mindless beast that had taken over
his body."

Dragons have been used as symbols of the life
force in many cultures for thousands of years,
the essence of nature, an underlying invisible
force. The flying dragon is an inner symbol of
dark unconscious forces which must be
transformed into creative forces. In alchemy,
the mystical art of transforming consciousness,
the dragon was a symbol of Mercury manifested
as passion and concupiscence, which must undergo
extraction and transformation, before becoming a
peacemaker, a mediator between warring
elements, and a producer of unity.
| From: "2-3-74 and After: A Mystical and
Paranormal Overview" by Mark W. Smith
http://www.alphane.com/moon/PalmTree/2-3-74.htm

******************

5meoDMT, 5-Methoxy N,N, Dimethyltryptamin
http://www.akasha.de/~aton/5-meo-dmt.gif

Entheogens in Christianity
http://www.bluehoney.org/EntheoChrist.htm
"... the poor could never afford to buy a hit of ergot
to experience ego death, unity consciousness, and
heaven-on-earth. But Jesus gave them ergot for free,
so that they could experience ego death, and the
priests -- who had a thriving business -- were
infuriated and seriously threatened..."
http://www.bluehoney.org/EntheoChrist.htm

The Origins of Christianity and
the Quest for the Historical Jesus Christ
by Acharya S:
http://www.truthbeknown.com/origins.htm

***********************
The French world:
http://www.premier-ministre.gouv.fr/ressources/fichiers/imf/francophonie.gif

German-speaking countries:
http://www.anu.edu.au/people/Roger.Clarke/ISWCountry/

See also: Japan's Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi Ltd.
& the State Development of Bank China
http://asia.news.yahoo.com/020829/reuters/asia-122593.html

Quantum Mind 2003 wrote:

<> Consciousness, Quantum Physics and the Brain
<>
<> March 15-19, 2003,
<> Tucson Convention Center and Leo Rich Theater
<> The University of Arizona
<> http://www.consciousness.arizona.edu/quantum-mind2

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From: Indrid Cold <indridcold@op.net>

Pontifex Maximus wrote:

[]
> FREE ALL IMPRISONED ALIENS!!!!
> PKD, & The KOPIO Experiment ...
> And speaking of "The Minority Report" by PKD...
> http://www.philipkdick.com/news/mr-cover-lg.jpg

((({<snip>})))

[] "[Philip K. Dick (PKD)] worked for KSMO Radio,
[] in San Mateo for a short time and later worked
[] for a Berkeley record store."
[] http://www.benway.com/pkd/pkd-body.html

((({<snip>})))

AAAAAAAAAAAGGGHGHGHHGHHHHGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Continuity of Consciousness, by definition, presupposes
that the perceptive core tracks continuously across all
parallel realities... One femtosecond is to a second as
one second is to 32.6 million years! The "Parallel
Universe" theory ("Many-Worlds Theory") is a defunct
bastardization of an ill-perceived anthropocentric
misunderstanding of the double-slit experiment,
[Collapse of a Quantum Wave Function into a Measurable
Particle w/ History]: In the "Many Worlds" theory of
quantum physics, popularized by David Deutsch and
others, (<http://www.qubit.org/>), our conscious selves
inhabit an infinite realm of parallel universes:
a "multiverse." Now, over the many years wherein we've
all made countless decisions both conscious and
automatic, and the countless times we've all pondered
ending our own miserable myriad existences, what if we
actually did? Would it, therefore, seem like a cruel fate
for consciousness to have no final escape from awareness,
perception, and embeddedness...? And what if it's true?!
Whooooooooooshhh!!!! Is everyone the same biospheric
personage? Are we dispersed across an undifferentiated
light-cone of ultra-dimensional wavelike potentiality in
nature, and only specified in particularity as a 3D lifeform?
<http://www.innerx.net/personal/tsmith/ManyWorlds.html#MWINT>
Who-are-we to suffer such an endless fate? And what does it
mean?!! What if there is a seamless continuity to sentience,
so that no matter how many times you actually "die," your
multiversal "self" continues uninterrupted?
AAAAAAAAAAAGGGHGHGHHGHHHHGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<> "[Philip K. Dick (PKD)] worked for KSMO Radio,
<> in San Mateo for a short time and later worked
<> for a Berkeley record store."
<> http://www.benway.com/pkd/pkd-body.html
<>

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From: empty <empty@badviha.org>

Michael Dix <mjdix@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> Pontifex Maximus wrote:
> >
> [ deleted ]
>
> Does KPFA still have a Church of the SubGenius show? Has anyone
> ever heard it?
> --
> mjdix@sonic.net

kpfa - programs - schedule
http://www.kpfa.org/1pg_grid.htm

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>
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>
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>
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REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT
ON KEEPING AMERICA SECURE
FOR THE 21ST CENTURY

National Academy of Sciences
Washington, D.C.
January 22, 1999

10:30 A.M. EST

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much.

--snip--

Since 1993, we have tripled funding for FBI anti-terrorist efforts.
Our agents and prosecutors, with excellent support from our
intelligence agencies, have done extraordinary work in tracking
down perpetrators of terrorist acts and bringing them to justice.
And as our air strikes against Afghanistan -- or against the terrorist
camps in Afghanistan -- last summer showed, we are prepared to
use military force against terrorists who harm our citizens. But all
of you know the fight against terrorism is far from over. And now,
terrorists seek new tools of destruction.

Last May, at the Naval Academy commencement, I said terrorist
and outlaw states are extending the world's fields of battle, from
physical space to cyberspace, from our earth's vast bodies of water
to the complex workings of our own human bodies.

--snip--

....[W]e already are seeing the first wave of deliberate cyber attacks --
hackers break into government and business computers, stealing and
destroying information, raiding bank accounts, running up credit card
charges, extorting money by threats to unleash computer viruses.

--snip--

Today, I want to announce the new initiatives we will take, to take us
to the next level in preparing for these emerging threats. In my budget,
I will ask Congress for $10 billion to address terrorism and terrorist-
emerging tools. This will include nearly $1.4 billion to protect citizens
against chemical and biological terror -- more than double what we spent
on such programs only two years ago.

The budget proposal will also include $1.46 billion to protect critical
systems from cyber and other attacks. That's 40 percent more than we
were spending two years ago. Among other things, it will help to fund
four new initiatives:

First, an intensive research effort to detect intruders trying to break into
critical computer systems.

Second, crime -- excuse me detection networks, first for our Defense
Department, and later for other key agencies so when one critical computer
system is invaded, others will be alerted instantly. And we will urge the
private sector to create similar structures.

Third, the creation of information centers in the private sector so that our
industries can work together and with government to address cyber threats.

Finally, we'll ask for funding to bolster the government's ranks of highly
skilled computer experts -- people capable of preventing and responding to
computer crises.

To implement this proposal, the Cyber Corps program, we will encourage
federal agencies to train and retrain computer specialists, as well as recruiting
gifted young people out of college.

((({[ January 22, 1999 ]})))

....
JOIN!! http://www.odci.gov/cia/employment/ciaeindex.htm JOIN!!
JOIN!! http://www.fbi.gov/employment/employ.htm JOIN!!
JOIN!! http://www.nsa.gov:8080/ JOIN!!

AAAAAAAGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

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From: "Blackout" <blackout@404Subgenius.com>

"I AM J'lahn." wrote

> Here's the REAL story:

the resident fucktard numerologist swoops in to state the obvious after
everyone else has already got the joke and moved on.

and now, ladies and gentlemen, he's pulling out a bat and flailing madly at
the long rotted corpse of a horse.

it's a good thing you're a RICH GENIUS, j'hfgnbmn, because otherwise someone
might confuse you with a poor white trash idiot that didn't get the joke.

AGAIN.

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