Subject: Re: RFC :: Why are there a bunch of lying assholes on IRC?

From: fossil_1984@hotmail.com (chaosisrael)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Sat, Feb 22, 2003

chupacabra <chupacabra@subgenius.com> wrote...
>
> bobot an I just kinda lurked and watch as users fought with bots who
> fought back.

POKEBOT!!!!
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From: nenslo <nenslo@yahooX.com>

chupacabra wrote:

> I am totally pissed at a bunch of elitist lying assholes on the IRC
> channel. I hope I am wrong.

"You are WRONG! EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU IS WRONG!" - what some guy said to me once.

You are totally wrong to be pissed off at elitist lying assholes on the IRC Channel. IRC exists solely for elitist lying assholes to lie and be elitist assholes in/on. Look at your hand and be totally pissed at it for having bones inside.
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From: nenslo <nenslo@yahooX.com>

Modemac wrote:
>
> On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com> wrote:
> >English, I said.
>
> Apparently someone had a problem with the bots on the channel having
> "double ops" powers or something, meaning that the bots could
> allegedly kick off anyone, including other folks there with ops. And
> also apparently something about keeping logs of the channel.
>

ENG, glish!
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From: nenslo <nenslo@yahooX.com>

chupacabra wrote:
>
> Here is my take on what I have been observing.
>
> I got there not too long ago. Mebby May. It was nice. Idle chat most
> of the time with a few rants scattered about. Then Sunday nights were
> always the best.
>
> I always noticed what I assumed to be a bot op'ing people as they came
> in. Being new I did not know who was who and who deserved ops. It was
> about then I was given ops when I joined. Seems this was gomez. He was
> fast, but not necessarily a bot I thought. I thought that having the
> whole channel with ops was not a good thing, but it was not my channel
> and had obviosly been doing ok. Then some bot started op'ing people
> that would immediatly deop the whole channel. AFAIK this is not a good
> thing but I am not a irc Guru so I may be wrong. I tried to kick the
> deopper, but was too lame. (I do not think one should have to have
> written irc deamons to enjoy an irc channel)
>
> Everything was kinda ok, just that one type of incident over and over.
>
> Then I started noticing new bots everythine I looked around. They
> mostly seemed innocous. Every time I saw one, I would ask whose it was
> and never got an answer.
>
> I have always liked infobots and run them in an unobtrusive way. I put
> bobot in. Everybody liked bobot I thought. He had become his own SubG
> personality. I was doing an upgrade on my server and backed bobot up
> and upgraded. OOPS. The database structure had changed between the old
> and new versions of glibc and berkely db. The old bobot was dead. I
> was still in the process of trying to get the old factoids into the new
> bot when all hell broke loose. Bots coming from everywhere, Talking
> incessently and to each other. Again I always tried to figure out whose
> bots they were to no avail. All I could do was tell bobot to ignore
> them. About this time I decided I had better things to do than fix
> bobot so he could get abused by other bots.
>
> Then It seemed to some that the new bots were evil and up to no good.
> (isn't that the proper thought pattern for a saucer cult?) Some people
> started trying to boot them and this really pissed the botmasters off.
> And none of the botmasters were known to us so we could not go ask the
> proper person.
>
> bobot an I just kinda lurked and watch as users fought with bots who
> fought back. When It came down to the nut cutting, it seems the bots
> are run by long time subgs that would rather keep the users in the dark.
> Anytime they were asked any questions about the bots there was nothing
> but smoke and mirrors and evasive bullshit answers.
>
> The way it was before I left was "Yes, 'people' know who run the channel
> and the bots." The next question was "Who". We asked the list we got
> and the first two didn't know shit. This would indicate that the people
> in the ivory towers really knew nothing about their subjects as usual.
> I am very guilty of this myself (assuming everyone knows what I know)
> but I have been taught not to by various ex-wives and friends and never
> assume anyone knows anything now.
>
> Then just as I was leaving the main fellow <i guess> told some that if
> people would quit bitching and "join up" on his side there was no limit
> to the perks they would recieve.
>
> Have I not heard that from the good cop/bad cop situations I have gotten
> myself into?
>
> Well Homie don't play that and I left and Here I came. I am always one
> to get the dirty laundry out in front of us so we can see the skid marks
> and cum stains.
>
> Like I said, This was a RFC and most of the comments sucked IMHO. Not
> knowing who the channel opers are on the mail list (and even on irc) it
> is hard to tell if any of the individuals in question has responded.
>
> What really finally did it to me was when a new bot showed up and said
> "I only talk when spoken too and will not cause any trouble" (not exact
> as I don't keep logs as some said they were so proud of having for the
> last 5 years.) Then the bot kept talking even though no one addressed
> him. (Sounds like the "tell" command.) I called it a lying bot and
> that if a bot master could get a bot to lie, that botmaster is probably
> a lier too, or worse.

You have GOT to be making this shit up.

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