Subject: Islam and the Stepford Wives

From: "Rev. Magdalen" <magdalen@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Nov 14, 2002 7:36 PM
Message-ID: <JkXA9.356319$121.9896322@twister.austin.rr.com>

There is a movie called The Stepford Wives which has become a cult classic.
If you've never seen it, you still probably know that it is a reference to
brainwashing and replacing people with docile look-alike animatronics. A
while ago The Lord and I sat down to watch this movie and see what all the
fuss is about.

It's an unusual movie because it is a horror flick aimed at women in
particular. And the horror doesn't come from a psychotic guy with a
chainsaw, in fact there is no bloodshed in the movie at all. A happy New
York City couple, a male businessman and a female photographer, and their
children move to a big house in the suburbs. They can't believe what a
great deal they got on this house!

You can tell from their conversations that this is thoroughly modern and hep
seventies family. The wife doesn't wear dresses or bras and she has
important work of her own. She doesn't cook, she makes TV dinners!
Everyone smokes like hell, drinks cocktails starting at lunch, and nobody
pays any attention to the kids. Progress! America!

Things start to go wrong when her husband joins the local businessmens'
club. He tells her he's sorry about it, but this backwards suburban club
doesn't allow women -- does she mind if he joins? They laugh about these
silly hick customs and she tells him go ahead and join, it will be good for
business. The night after his initiation she finds him sitting in an
armchair getting thoroughly drunk, white as a sheet, obviously deeply
shaken. He looks at her kind of funny but tells her he's ok.

Soon after that, she starts to notice that all the other women in town
aren't just backward hicks. It's like they're not even human! She tries to
host a consciousness-raising feminist meeting, but all the other wives will
talk about are recipes and cleaning! Then one by one, her few feminist
friends, all newcomers to the town like herself, go off for "weekend trips"
with their husbands. When they come back, their breasts are huge, they wear
dresses instead of slacks, they quit their jobs, and all they do all day is
cook, clean, and service their husbands.

Eventually she discovers the truth -- the Stepford Men's Club is murdering
women and replacing them with animatronic robots created by an evil
ex-Disney employee. All the men in town, including the police, are in on
it. And now it's her turn. And despite her expert weilding of a fireplace
poker, she fails to escape the town and is captured, murdered, and replaced
with a robot. The End.

The basic horror of this movie is that all of our progress as women has been
just an illusion. Even the most sophisticated and modern man still wishes
deep down that we would serve him docilely, while wearing enormous breasts.
The horror is the thought that if he had the chance to do it without being
caught, any man would replace us with a sex/cooking slave robot in a
heartbeat. He might agonize over it for a night, but in the end he'd do it,
because women don't have value as individual people. Their value is in what
they do for their men, so it's ok to kill them as long as you replace them
right away.

Once you've seen this movie, a lot of other movies look different to you,
especially movies from the seventies when feminism was concentrating on the
real world and hadn't moved out to the movies yet. Remember in the Planet
of the Apes, how Charleton Heston finds love in the arms of a mute, docile
degenerate human girl? And he's not just making the best of a bad situation
either, as is clear from the way he pats her face as they ride off into the
sunset just before discovering the awful truth about the ape planet. That
gentle face-pat is Heston's way of saying "Well, at least it's not ALL bad!
Sure, the planet's run by dirty apes but at least the broads can't bitch at
you."

Now the Stepford Wives is just a movie. It's not real. But when I see a
bunch of men who regularly mock everything religious from Scientology to
Catholicism suddenly rise up in arms to defend Islam, the most repressive
religion on earth today in terms of women's rights, that movie sure comes to
mind. I see men go straight from making fun of the Pope's hats to saying
"Hey, Islam isn't all bad, lots of women LIKE being treated that way," and
"You're a bigot for believing all those lies about the way Islamic women are
treated, they are only treated badly in tiny sects of Islam." It makes me
think that underneath everything you say you believe in about freedom, you
still wish the world was full of bitches with huge tits who were silent,
cooked right, and pleasured you on demand.

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Subject: Re: Islam and the Stepford Wives
From: Joe Cosby <joecosby@SPAMBLOCKmindspring.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Nov 14, 2002 8:27 PM
Message-ID: <haj8tus2e8rmfgkmnb2b7uk65flflqk4l6@4ax.com>

On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:36:57 GMT, "Rev. Magdalen"
<magdalen@subgenius.com> wrote:

> you
>still wish the world was full of bitches with huge tits who were silent,
>cooked right, and pleasured you on demand.

http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml;jsessionid=3AXI4IRNNR2IQCRBAEKSFEY?type=healthnews&StoryID=1742583

Well I'm just mentioning it, that's all.

--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com

Truth lurks always just out of your field of vision; with a baseball
bat cocked.


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Subject: Re: Islam and the Stepford Wives
From: Joe Cosby <joecosby@SPAMBLOCKmindspring.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Nov 14, 2002 11:21 PM
Message-ID: <tgt8tu4k8u8u0otvtg0t1otdp6jl3r8tps@4ax.com>

On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:27:20 -0800, Joe Cosby
<joecosby@SPAMBLOCKmindspring.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:36:57 GMT, "Rev. Magdalen"
><magdalen@subgenius.com> wrote:
>
>> you
>>still wish the world was full of bitches with huge tits who were silent,
>>cooked right, and pleasured you on demand.
>
>
>http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml;jsessionid=3AXI4IRNNR2IQCRBAEKSFEY?type=healthnews&StoryID=1742583
>
>Well I'm just mentioning it, that's all.

Oh and here's another one:

http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml;jsessionid=1E5HTOV21W2DOCRBAELCFFA?type=healthnews&StoryID=1742166

I guess the thing is the "Trust Yourself ... to be an informed
investor?" graphic on the right.

It seems so right for both articles.

--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com

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Subject: Re: Islam and the Stepford Wives
From: idrmrsr <idrmrsr@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Nov 14, 2002 8:32 PM
Message-ID: <3DD44ECA.FA8AA4D3@subgenius.com>

MAGS:
>>It makes me
think that underneath everything you say you believe in about freedom,
you
still wish the world was full of bitches with huge tits who were silent,

cooked right, and pleasured you on demand.<<

No, that's not quite right. They should pleasure me *without my
asking*!

But seriously (I know, I sound like Jerry Lewis saying that), the whole
middle east, including both the competing factions, believe that women
should be around to feed and suck the dicks of men continuously in order
that the men can study the holy book du jour without getting
distracted. I mean, getting a huge throbbing boner while reading the
Koran or while counting down every 19th letter in the Kaballah might
make you miss some important prophecy. Then the crops would fail, you'd
have crickets to contend with, or a rain of frogs.

With a full stomach, in a clean house, and with every drop of spum
vacuumed from your seminal vessicles, the other parts of a man's brain
can flourish at last. At least that's the theory, they're all pink on
the inside, so wrap them up in a sheet or put a wig on them and watch
their breasts jiggle as you spew.

Southern American men, come to think of it, subscribe to this
philosophy, too, curiously. It being so hot down there, skimpy shorts
and halter tops are usually acceptable (viz. Sadie Hawkins). But I
don't think they expend a whole lot of their brain power on the Bible.
Race cars and coon hunting, maybe.

Since I'm from the North, and am not of Italian or Hispanic descent, I'm
able to view a world in which women have a place outside the bedroom and
kitchen. And I join you in the sound condemnation of female
oppressors. FWIW.

[*]
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Subject: Re: Islam and the Stepford Wives
From: "Rev. Magdalen" <magdalen@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Nov 14, 2002 10:35 PM
Message-ID: <vYZA9.356424$121.9939878@twister.austin.rr.com>

"idrmrsr" <idrmrsr@subgenius.com> wrote in message
news:3DD44ECA.FA8AA4D3@subgenius.com...
> MAGS:
> >>It makes me
> think that underneath everything you say you believe in about freedom,
> you
> still wish the world was full of bitches with huge tits who were silent,
>
> cooked right, and pleasured you on demand.<<
>
> No, that's not quite right. They should pleasure me *without my
> asking*!
>
> But seriously (I know, I sound like Jerry Lewis saying that), the whole
> middle east, including both the competing factions, believe that women
> should be around to feed and suck the dicks of men continuously in order
> that the men can study the holy book du jour without getting
> distracted. I mean, getting a huge throbbing boner while reading the
> Koran or while counting down every 19th letter in the Kaballah might
> make you miss some important prophecy. Then the crops would fail, you'd
> have crickets to contend with, or a rain of frogs.
>
> With a full stomach, in a clean house, and with every drop of spum
> vacuumed from your seminal vessicles, the other parts of a man's brain
> can flourish at last. At least that's the theory, they're all pink on
> the inside, so wrap them up in a sheet or put a wig on them and watch
> their breasts jiggle as you spew.
>
> Southern American men, come to think of it, subscribe to this
> philosophy, too, curiously. It being so hot down there, skimpy shorts
> and halter tops are usually acceptable (viz. Sadie Hawkins). But I
> don't think they expend a whole lot of their brain power on the Bible.
> Race cars and coon hunting, maybe.
>
> Since I'm from the North, and am not of Italian or Hispanic descent, I'm
> able to view a world in which women have a place outside the bedroom and
> kitchen. And I join you in the sound condemnation of female
> oppressors. FWIW.

You're just saying that because you think being sensitive will get you in my
pants!!

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Subject: Re: Islam and the Stepford Wives
From: friday@fridayjones.com (Friday Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.slack,alt.friday
Date: Fri, Nov 15, 2002 8:28 PM
Message-ID: <friday-ya02408000R1511022028290001@news.earthlink.net>

In article <e028aced.0211150751.725fa2d5@posting.google.com>,
revjim@strangegames.com (Reverend Jim) wrote:

>Great choice you leave your fellow SubGenii! If they decline to be
>racist, by your logic they must be sexist!

Fortunately, once the Harvest is done there will be no humans remaining
alive to bicker about these minor differences between different heaps of
carbon.

Only an Ivangelical would even WORRY about such things.

--

"Nyder is the sort of person who, if you told him to kill someone, it would
just make his Friday .... He's basically just a psychopath."
- actor Peter Miles (UK)

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Subject: Re: Islam and the Stepford Wives
From: revjim@strangegames.com (Reverend Jim)
Newsgroups: alt.slack,alt.friday
Date: Sat, Nov 16, 2002 5:45 AM
Message-ID: <e028aced.0211160245.30c651e6@posting.google.com>

friday@fridayjones.com (Friday Jones) wrote in message news:<friday-ya02408000R1511022028290001@news.earthlink.net>...
> In article <e028aced.0211150751.725fa2d5@posting.google.com>,
> revjim@strangegames.com (Reverend Jim) wrote:
>
> >Great choice you leave your fellow SubGenii! If they decline to be
> >racist, by your logic they must be sexist!
>
> Fortunately, once the Harvest is done there will be no humans remaining
> alive to bicker about these minor differences between different heaps of
> carbon.
>
> Only an Ivangelical would even WORRY about such things.

You are of course entirely right. I find myself thinking about the
world far too often (especially if something like Magdalen hating
Arabs gets me on the subject), then getting annoyed, until I remember
that lucky for me it's not my problem!

When is there going to be another story on fridayjones.com? I keep
checking every so often, because I really like them.

Smiles,
Reverend Jim

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Subject: Re: Islam and the Stepford Wives
From: friday@fridayjones.com (Friday Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.slack,alt.friday
Date: Sat, Nov 16, 2002 6:51 PM
Message-ID: <friday-ya02408000R1611021852360001@news.earthlink.net>

In article <e028aced.0211160245.30c651e6@posting.google.com>,
revjim@strangegames.com (Reverend Jim) wrote:

>friday@fridayjones.com (Friday Jones) wrote in message
news:<friday-ya02408000R1511022028290001@news.earthlink.net>...
>> In article <e028aced.0211150751.725fa2d5@posting.google.com>,
>> revjim@strangegames.com (Reverend Jim) wrote:
>>
>> >Great choice you leave your fellow SubGenii! If they decline to be
>> >racist, by your logic they must be sexist!
>>
>> Fortunately, once the Harvest is done there will be no humans remaining
>> alive to bicker about these minor differences between different heaps of
>> carbon.
>>
>> Only an Ivangelical would even WORRY about such things.
>
>You are of course entirely right. I find myself thinking about the
>world far too often (especially if something like Magdalen hating
>Arabs gets me on the subject), then getting annoyed, until I remember
>that lucky for me it's not my problem!
>
>When is there going to be another story on fridayjones.com? I keep
>checking every so often, because I really like them.

As soon as the several stories currently battling in my HEAD choose a winner.

--

I like to make people either think, throw up, or both
- Joe Cosby

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Subject: Re: Islam and the Stepford Wives
From: "Rev. Magdalen" <magdalen@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Nov 15, 2002 12:04 PM
Message-ID: <5O9B9.2228$Kj1.54384@twister.austin.rr.com>

"talysman" <talysman@globalsurrealism.com> wrote in message
news:wksmy3lbc0.fsf@globalsurrealism.com...
> "Rev. Magdalen" <magdalen@subgenius.com> writes:
>
>
> > Now the Stepford Wives is just a movie. It's not real. But when I see
a
> > bunch of men who regularly mock everything religious from Scientology to
> > Catholicism suddenly rise up in arms to defend Islam, the most
repressive
> > religion on earth today in terms of women's rights, that movie sure
comes to
> > mind. I see men go straight from making fun of the Pope's hats to
saying
> > "Hey, Islam isn't all bad, lots of women LIKE being treated that way,"
and
> > "You're a bigot for believing all those lies about the way Islamic women
are
> > treated, they are only treated badly in tiny sects of Islam." It makes
me
> > think that underneath everything you say you believe in about freedom,
you
> > still wish the world was full of bitches with huge tits who were silent,
> > cooked right, and pleasured you on demand.
>
> we mock self-righteousness.
> we are mocking you.
> do the math.

You're not mocking a GODDAMN thing. You're defending the rights of the poor
Muslims to believe their religion because boo hoo hoo, mean old Mary
Magdalen is calling them a bunch of sexist wankers RIGHT THERE ON THE
INTERNET for everyone to see!!

Well in case you PISS-POOR EXCUSES FOR SUBGENII have FORGOTTEN, there is
only ONE TRUE RELIGION, and it is the CHURCH OF THE SUBGENIUS, not
motherfucking ISLAM!! THEREFORE, everyone who believes in Islam is, by
definition, EVERY BIT AS STUPID AND WRONG as the Christians you feel more
comfortable mocking. So either show me some HATE and MOCKERY or else SHUT
UP, because this is not alt.comparative.religion, it's
alt.motherfucking.SLACK.

Y'assholes!

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Subject: Re: Islam and the Stepford Wives
From: "Dave White" <dave@i-one.at>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Nov 15, 2002 2:04 PM
Message-ID: <pan.2002.11.15.18.55.19.609859@i-one.at>

On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:04:01 +0000, Rev. Magdalen wrote:

> Well in case you PISS-POOR EXCUSES FOR SUBGENII have FORGOTTEN, there is
> only ONE TRUE RELIGION, and it is the CHURCH OF THE SUBGENIUS, not
> motherfucking ISLAM!! THEREFORE, everyone who believes in Islam is, by
> definition, EVERY BIT AS STUPID AND WRONG as the Christians you feel
> more comfortable mocking. So either show me some HATE and MOCKERY or
> else SHUT UP, because this is not alt.comparative.religion, it's
> alt.motherfucking.SLACK.
>
>

Oh. Right.

THINKING BAD, FEELING GOOD.

Arrgh. This was the mantra of every HACK SOCIAL WORKER who wanted to FIX
me -- and in retrospect, I suspect this meant "FIX" like you "FIX" a dog.

> Y'assholes!

My sentiments exactly.

I'd just like to point out the pedants out there in the peanut gallery
that it is all too clear that these threads were supposed to provoke a
flurry of funny jokes, much like the 2001-11-09 reaction.

However much I enjoyed (for instance) Legume's depiction of Osama fucking
a pig, or the suggestion to airdrop strippers into Taliban-controlled
Afghanistan, the sad fact is that the deepest recesses of the Con have
already appropriated this subject matter to whip the dipshits into a
killing frenzy.

"Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke" INDEED. Said dipshits are being WELL
and TRULY FUCKED. Remember the crop of psychos (Timmy McVeigh, Mohammed
"Sniper Dude" Whassisface and his Heterosexual Life Companion, etc.) that
came of the Gulf War? Are they not a good representative sample of FUCKED
UP MONKEYS? And you WANT the Con to make MORE of THEM?

How far IS your head up your ass?

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