Subject: The History of Iraq?

From: "ICEKNIFE" <icNOekSPAMnife@lmi.net>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Sat, Mar 29, 2003 1:00 PM
Message-ID: <Bo-cnZdHiqD8QhijXTWcqA@lmi.net>

I've never seen any testimony by anyone reliable, or by a large
number of people, that Sadam Hussein is a monster. I don't doubt it,
most people deserve to die slowly under my heel, that's just a fact of
nature. Thing is, I've searched Amnesty Internationl's sites, among
others, and can't find the usual things such a (presumably) repressive
regime should have following it around.

I'm not saying it's not out there, just that I've never seen a trace
of it. We have a government that pays Partnership For A Drug Free
AMerica running ads about how pot makes you (literaly) rape and kill;
how the fuck do I take such a government and a corporate media
seriously, *ever*?

There's no reliable journalists on the ground that aren't in bed with
the military. Since we've already caught our current administration in
vast lies, criminal fraud, conflict of interest, and an illegal war,
why should we assume ANYTHING they've said is true? I don't actually
know any Iraqui people. There's a huge transient Iraqui population in
Jordan. They're not expatriots, or refugees. They're day workers,
looking for honest work because their country has been under attack
for over a decade. If Sadam is such a bastard, why don't they stay in
Jordan? Do they *all* have family in Iraq for whom they fear
reprisals? That duck won't hunt.

Do any of you have any links that can lead me to data that will
confirm that Sadam is the monster our propaganda machine says he is?
His regime certainly seems less repressive than almost any other in
the region. He didn't outlaw Moslem traditional clothing like Turkey
did, nor do they require it like the Saudi fanatics do. It's like this
damn war... all I have to go on thus far is the word of proven liars,
thieves, and murderers. I hate hating someone without sufficent
evidence that they've EARNED my precious artic hate acid. Help me out
here?

Not that it'll help that much... I can't imagine hating someone for
hurting others nearly as much as I hate our own for hurting us.

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Subject: Re: The History of Iraq?
From: rev dode <dode(pee)@tystie.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Sat, Mar 29, 2003 1:24 PM
Message-ID: <3e85e3e5$0$231$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>

ICEKNIFE wrote:

>
>
> I've never seen any testimony by anyone reliable, or by a large
> number of people, that Sadam Hussein is a monster. I don't doubt it,
> most people deserve to die slowly under my heel, that's just a fact of
> nature. Thing is, I've searched Amnesty Internationl's sites, among
> others, and can't find the usual things such a (presumably) repressive
> regime should have following it around.

>
> Not that it'll help that much... I can't imagine hating someone for
> hurting others nearly as much as I hate our own for hurting us.

Sadam is an evil moustachieod bastard no doubt about it, there was a pretty
good documentry on one of the BBC digital channels you may be able to find
it online. As well as covering Sadam it also explained the too familiar
history of external forces (brits mostly) setting up hopeless puppet
regimes which were the torn down by popular or military uprising.

You might think that someone would think twice about going down this path
again but I guess thats why humanity deserves the worst it can throw at
itself.

Dode

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Subject: Re: The History of Iraq?
From: "Ellis Dee" <fxtrt22@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Sat, Mar 29, 2003 1:55 PM
Message-ID: <O_lha.1592$rN3.154739@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

"ICEKNIFE" <icNOekSPAMnife@lmi.net> wrote in message
news:Bo-cnZdHiqD8QhijXTWcqA@lmi.net...
>
>
> I've never seen any testimony by anyone reliable, or by a large
> number of people, that Sadam Hussein is a monster.

I admire your gadfly, devil's advocate stance on most things, but you are
way off on this one.

ANYONE THAT GASSES THEIR OWN PEOPLE (KURDS) IS A PRICK!

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Subject: Re: The History of Iraq?
From: "ICEKNIFE" <icNOekSPAMnife@lmi.net>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Sat, Mar 29, 2003 2:53 PM
Message-ID: <G5qcnVAX8dFqZBijXTWc3Q@lmi.net>

"Ellis Dee" <fxtrt22@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:O_lha.1592$rN3.154739@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
>
> "ICEKNIFE" <icNOekSPAMnife@lmi.net> wrote in message
> news:Bo-cnZdHiqD8QhijXTWcqA@lmi.net...
> >
> >
> > I've never seen any testimony by anyone reliable, or by a large
> > number of people, that Sadam Hussein is a monster.
>
> I admire your gadfly, devil's advocate stance on most things, but
you are
> way off on this one.
>
> ANYONE THAT GASSES THEIR OWN PEOPLE (KURDS) IS A PRICK!

Gadfly devils advocate? Nah, I just KNOW that MOST PEOPLE LIE LIKE
FUCK ALL THE DAMN TIME TO GET THEIR WAY, BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO FUCKING
STUPID TO KNOW WHY TO TELL THE TRUTH. People are, after all, just
monkeys.

And I'm NOT "way off on this one" because I asked for DATA.

YOU are way off to give me data on your FEEEELINGS, about which I
care less than nothing (at this time - they may become relevant
later). As far as I can tell, the Kurds ain't his people. Nobody likes
them, because they don't bend knee and open assflaps. If bitches won't
put out, the LANDMASTERS just kill tham. Gassing the Kurds is a BAD
THING, as bad as MKULTRA and giving VD to retarded people and poison
blankets and all the OTHER highlights of American domestic policy
after WWII. But it's not the stuff I keep hearing about. Where do I
find something other than anecdotes from ABC about how someone knew a
guy who wrote about blah blah blah?

Now, I know Dan Rather soaped and oiled everyone, but I don't care.
You're so primed with the media "truth" that you totally missed that I
was asking, because I believe NOTHING until I see something more
substantive than "oh, EVERYONE knows THAT". I don't fucking know it,
and seeing it said on TV don't make it so. So fuck you, answer me with
substance, or DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE.

Admit it, you NEED for Sadam to be worse than BUSH. Funny thing is,
he could be a monster with nine heads, and having not bit ME, I'd
still hate Bush more. Let the damn Iraquis fight Sad-damn, we've got
our own madman raping our country of resources and our rights.

THE SECRET TO WORLD PEACE AND PROSPERITY: END ALL GOVERNMENTS BY
KILLING ANYONE WHO PAYS TAXES.

seriously.

it's the only way right now.

when we finish the new nanites, it'll all be moot anyway, most of you
will be robot spiders.

NOW ANSWER MY FUCKING QUESTION AND POST SOME LINKS, OR STAY THE FUCK
OUTTA MY THREAD HERE ON *MY* CYBIE CYBIE INTURNECK!

yoo chickenclit pizzlers!!!

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Subject: Re: The History of Iraq?
From: talysman <talysman@globalsurrealism.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Sat, Mar 29, 2003 4:57 PM
Message-ID: <wky92xvnv3.fsf@globalsurrealism.com>

"ICEKNIFE" <icNOekSPAMnife@lmi.net> writes:

> "Ellis Dee" <fxtrt22@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:O_lha.1592$rN3.154739@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> >
> > "ICEKNIFE" <icNOekSPAMnife@lmi.net> wrote in message
> > news:Bo-cnZdHiqD8QhijXTWcqA@lmi.net...
> > >
> > >
> > > I've never seen any testimony by anyone reliable, or by a large
> > > number of people, that Sadam Hussein is a monster.
> >
> > I admire your gadfly, devil's advocate stance on most things, but
> you are
> > way off on this one.
> >
> > ANYONE THAT GASSES THEIR OWN PEOPLE (KURDS) IS A PRICK!
>
> Gadfly devils advocate? Nah, I just KNOW that MOST PEOPLE LIE LIKE
> FUCK ALL THE DAMN TIME TO GET THEIR WAY, BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO FUCKING
> STUPID TO KNOW WHY TO TELL THE TRUTH. People are, after all, just
> monkeys.
>
> And I'm NOT "way off on this one" because I asked for DATA.
>
> YOU are way off to give me data on your FEEEELINGS, about which I
> care less than nothing (at this time - they may become relevant
> later). As far as I can tell, the Kurds ain't his people. Nobody likes
> them, because they don't bend knee and open assflaps. If bitches won't
> put out, the LANDMASTERS just kill tham. Gassing the Kurds is a BAD
> THING, as bad as MKULTRA and giving VD to retarded people and poison
> blankets and all the OTHER highlights of American domestic policy
> after WWII. But it's not the stuff I keep hearing about. Where do I
> find something other than anecdotes from ABC about how someone knew a
> guy who wrote about blah blah blah?

you forgot to mention that of the various stories going around
about what saddam did to the kurds, about half of them are wrong.
specifically, the stories about him gassing the kurds during the
iran-iraq war.

seems the first time the story was reported, it was the *iranians*
getting gassed, because iran and iraq were at war (which saddam
started, but we supported.) some kurds got in the way, but saddam
wasn't trying to gas them -- he wanted them to fight iran, remember.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/31/opinion/31PELL.html

there must have been some out-and-out attacks on kurds, because the
kurds have been in open war against the ba'ath regime for 30 years
(at least, according to this article:

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15210 )

however, no one gave a crap about that, because (1) they are kurds;
(2) if we start caring about saddam attacking kurds, we have to care
about turkey attacking kurds, and that puts us in a tight spot; and
(3) the US (and most other countries) try not to condemn governments
that attack rebels, because that would set a nasty precident. don't
want to suggest that rebellion against a government is GOOD.

plus, not all the attacks against iraqi kurds are attacks by saddam:

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15457

nor will all future attacks on the kurds be orchestrated by saddam.
one kurdish village was rather shocked when colin powell addressed
the UN... because he said their village was an al qaeda base. they
were hoping he would mention saddam's attacks on their village as
proof that saddam needs to be deposde. whooops. sucks to be kurds.

however, saddam and the ba'ath does do the typical "arrest people
for political crimes" behavior of any regime. remember back in
october, when saddam released all the prisoners? except that he
didn't release all of them, and a few iraqis protested?

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=14396

to sum up, here's a nice little article discussing the "facts" about
iraq as disseminated by the bush administration:

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15171

and another:

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15305

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Subject: Re: The History of Iraq?
From: "ICEKNIFE" <icNOekSPAMnife@lmi.net>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Sat, Mar 29, 2003 5:56 PM
Message-ID: <AYmdnfZaxMNBuRujXTWcpQ@lmi.net>

"talysman" <talysman@globalsurrealism.com> wrote in message
news:wky92xvnv3.fsf@globalsurrealism.com...
> "ICEKNIFE" <icNOekSPAMnife@lmi.net> writes:
>
> > "Ellis Dee" <fxtrt22@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:O_lha.1592$rN3.154739@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> > >
> > > "ICEKNIFE" <icNOekSPAMnife@lmi.net> wrote in message
> > > news:Bo-cnZdHiqD8QhijXTWcqA@lmi.net...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I've never seen any testimony by anyone reliable, or by a
large
> > > > number of people, that Sadam Hussein is a monster.
> > >
> > > I admire your gadfly, devil's advocate stance on most things,
but
> > you are
> > > way off on this one.
> > >
> > > ANYONE THAT GASSES THEIR OWN PEOPLE (KURDS) IS A PRICK!
> >
> > Gadfly devils advocate? Nah, I just KNOW that MOST PEOPLE LIE
LIKE
> > FUCK ALL THE DAMN TIME TO GET THEIR WAY, BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO
FUCKING
> > STUPID TO KNOW WHY TO TELL THE TRUTH. People are, after all, just
> > monkeys.
> >
> > And I'm NOT "way off on this one" because I asked for DATA.
> >
> > YOU are way off to give me data on your FEEEELINGS, about which I
> > care less than nothing (at this time - they may become relevant
> > later). As far as I can tell, the Kurds ain't his people. Nobody
likes
> > them, because they don't bend knee and open assflaps. If bitches
won't
> > put out, the LANDMASTERS just kill tham. Gassing the Kurds is a
BAD
> > THING, as bad as MKULTRA and giving VD to retarded people and
poison
> > blankets and all the OTHER highlights of American domestic policy
> > after WWII. But it's not the stuff I keep hearing about. Where do
I
> > find something other than anecdotes from ABC about how someone
knew a
> > guy who wrote about blah blah blah?
>
> you forgot to mention that of the various stories going around
> about what saddam did to the kurds, about half of them are wrong.
> specifically, the stories about him gassing the kurds during the
> iran-iraq war.
>
> seems the first time the story was reported, it was the *iranians*
> getting gassed, because iran and iraq were at war (which saddam
> started, but we supported.) some kurds got in the way, but saddam
> wasn't trying to gas them -- he wanted them to fight iran, remember.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/31/opinion/31PELL.html
>
> there must have been some out-and-out attacks on kurds, because the
> kurds have been in open war against the ba'ath regime for 30 years
> (at least, according to this article:
>
> http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15210 )
>
> however, no one gave a crap about that, because (1) they are kurds;
> (2) if we start caring about saddam attacking kurds, we have to care
> about turkey attacking kurds, and that puts us in a tight spot; and
> (3) the US (and most other countries) try not to condemn governments
> that attack rebels, because that would set a nasty precident. don't
> want to suggest that rebellion against a government is GOOD.
>
> plus, not all the attacks against iraqi kurds are attacks by saddam:
>
> http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15457
>
> nor will all future attacks on the kurds be orchestrated by saddam.
> one kurdish village was rather shocked when colin powell addressed
> the UN... because he said their village was an al qaeda base. they
> were hoping he would mention saddam's attacks on their village as
> proof that saddam needs to be deposde. whooops. sucks to be kurds.
>
> however, saddam and the ba'ath does do the typical "arrest people
> for political crimes" behavior of any regime. remember back in
> october, when saddam released all the prisoners? except that he
> didn't release all of them, and a few iraqis protested?
>
> http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=14396
>
> to sum up, here's a nice little article discussing the "facts" about
> iraq as disseminated by the bush administration:
>
> http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15171
>
> and another:
>
> http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15305

Thanks. I hope there's some indication that he's the monster they say
he is. I hate it when the nation as a whole falls for something that's
ALL lies. Be nice if ANYTHING the administration said was true.

It would be wise for Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Ashcroft to arrange
to be buried in secret, so their families don't have to deal with the
heartache and expense of cleaning the graves daily after the abuse
certain to be heaped on them.

Maybe it's just me, but I have a vision of Bin Laden and Hussein
drinking pina coladas on a beach in Argentine, while they wait for
their next Haliburton checks. I suspect evil men of doing evil, silly
me. What a conspiracy nut I am, to suspect evil deeds of evil men!

You DO know I've authorized the Marcabs to use final sanction on this
world if anyone tries to escape without Xist escort, right? Yeah,
well, Galactic Law WILL be honored. Powerless monkeybitches have no
say in the matter.

History is not written by the winners, it's written by historians and
CENSORED by the winners. The winners eventually die, leaving only...
history.

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Subject: Re: The History of Iraq?
From: "Ellis Dee" <fxtrt22@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Sat, Mar 29, 2003 11:14 PM
Message-ID: <lauha.2304$rN3.217285@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

"ICEKNIFE" <icNOekSPAMnife@lmi.net> wrote
>
> Gadfly devils advocate? Nah, I just KNOW that MOST PEOPLE LIE LIKE
> FUCK ALL THE DAMN TIME TO GET THEIR WAY, BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO FUCKING
> STUPID TO KNOW WHY TO TELL THE TRUTH. People are, after all, just
> monkeys.

True.

> And I'm NOT "way off on this one" because I asked for DATA.
>
> YOU are way off to give me data on your FEEEELINGS, about which I
> care less than nothing.

Feelings are valid data, not objective data, but data none the less.

My perspective on this stems from the fact that my grandfather was gassed
in the trenches of WWI in France. Gave him a heart condition that killed him
some years later. Never saw the guy, 'tis a pity, I heard he was quite a
gent.

> NOW ANSWER MY FUCKING QUESTION AND POST SOME LINKS,

Do your own fuckin' homework.

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Subject: Re: The History of Iraq?
From: rev dode <dode(pee)@tystie.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Sat, Mar 29, 2003 3:01 PM
Message-ID: <3e85faac$0$21987$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>

Ellis Dee wrote:

>
> "ICEKNIFE" <icNOekSPAMnife@lmi.net> wrote in message
> news:Bo-cnZdHiqD8QhijXTWcqA@lmi.net...
>>
>>
>> I've never seen any testimony by anyone reliable, or by a large
>> number of people, that Sadam Hussein is a monster.
>
> I admire your gadfly, devil's advocate stance on most things, but you are
> way off on this one.
>
> ANYONE THAT GASSES THEIR OWN PEOPLE (KURDS) IS A PRICK!

Absolutely, drop the words their own and I'd still agree with you although
we do start to catch and increasing number of the worlds leaders. Unless
poisoning your fellow country men worse than poisoning near neighbours or
strangers?

Gassing is pretty bad but I'd put spraying defoliant over someones food
supply up there with it, kill them slow today or kill them slow over the
next couple of months. I guess it's okay if it's all part of a war against
something, drugs, terror or anyone who spots that the world this week is
not safer than last, and the world next week is going to be worse still.

Dode

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Subject: Re: The History of Iraq?
From: "ICEKNIFE" <icNOekSPAMnife@lmi.net>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Sat, Mar 29, 2003 3:54 PM
Message-ID: <b9icnRlzJdSvlRujXTWc3A@lmi.net>

"rev dode" <dode(pee)@tystie.com> wrote in message
news:3e85faac$0$21987$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com...
> Ellis Dee wrote:
>
> >
> > "ICEKNIFE" <icNOekSPAMnife@lmi.net> wrote in message
> > news:Bo-cnZdHiqD8QhijXTWcqA@lmi.net...
> >>
> >>
> >> I've never seen any testimony by anyone reliable, or by a large
> >> number of people, that Sadam Hussein is a monster.
> >
> > I admire your gadfly, devil's advocate stance on most things, but
you are
> > way off on this one.
> >
> > ANYONE THAT GASSES THEIR OWN PEOPLE (KURDS) IS A PRICK!
>
> Absolutely, drop the words their own and I'd still agree with you
although
> we do start to catch and increasing number of the worlds leaders.
Unless
> poisoning your fellow country men worse than poisoning near
neighbours or
> strangers?
>
> Gassing is pretty bad but I'd put spraying defoliant over someones
food
> supply up there with it, kill them slow today or kill them slow over
the
> next couple of months. I guess it's okay if it's all part of a war
against
> something, drugs, terror or anyone who spots that the world this
week is
> not safer than last, and the world next week is going to be worse
still.
>
> Dode

we have to get OUT of here

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Subject: Re: The History of Iraq?
From: rev dode <dode(pee)@tystie.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Sun, Mar 30, 2003 4:02 AM
Message-ID: <3e86b1b6$0$4864$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>

ICEKNIFE wrote:

>
> "rev dode" <dode(pee)@tystie.com> wrote in message
> news:3e85faac$0$21987$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com...
>> Ellis Dee wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > "ICEKNIFE" <icNOekSPAMnife@lmi.net> wrote in message
>> > news:Bo-cnZdHiqD8QhijXTWcqA@lmi.net...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I've never seen any testimony by anyone reliable, or by a large
>> >> number of people, that Sadam Hussein is a monster.
>> >
>> > I admire your gadfly, devil's advocate stance on most things, but
> you are
>> > way off on this one.
>> >
>> > ANYONE THAT GASSES THEIR OWN PEOPLE (KURDS) IS A PRICK!
>>
>> Absolutely, drop the words their own and I'd still agree with you
> although
>> we do start to catch and increasing number of the worlds leaders.
> Unless
>> poisoning your fellow country men worse than poisoning near
> neighbours or
>> strangers?
>>
>> Gassing is pretty bad but I'd put spraying defoliant over someones
> food
>> supply up there with it, kill them slow today or kill them slow over
> the
>> next couple of months. I guess it's okay if it's all part of a war
> against
>> something, drugs, terror or anyone who spots that the world this
> week is
>> not safer than last, and the world next week is going to be worse
> still.
>>
>> Dode
>
> we have to get OUT of here

Alternatively we could just settle back in an easy chair and watch the
monkeys play with the pretty fireworks on the goggle box. Personally I'm
going to rake the moss covered patch of this planet at the end of my
garden, enjoy the sun and figure how to stop paying my taxes.

Dode

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Subject: Re: The History of Iraq?
From: JJ <jakubj@parkin.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Sun, Mar 30, 2003 4:15 AM
Message-ID: <pan.2003.03.30.09.11.27.29368.2010@parkin.ca>

On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 04:02:25 -0500, rev dode wrote:

> and figure how to stop paying my taxes.

Fake your death.

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Subject: Re: The History of Iraq?
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Sun, Mar 30, 2003 11:02 AM
Message-ID: <300320031102450329%stang@subgenius.com>

In article <3e86b1b6$0$4864$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>, rev dode
<dode(pee)@tystie.com> wrote:

>
> Alternatively we could just settle back in an easy chair and watch the
> monkeys play with the pretty fireworks on the goggle box. Personally I'm
> going to rake the moss covered patch of this planet at the end of my
> garden, enjoy the sun and figure how to stop paying my taxes.

One way to pay less taxes is to be the guy who actually does the books
for whoever pays your salary. (Or start your own business.) Another way
is to move to another country and pay THEM instead. Yet another
approach would be to work for a SubGenius company; then you'd make too
little money (or have too many expenses) to owe taxes, and it would
become an entirely moot point.

And there IS something to be said for not meddling in other peoples'
bizness in the first place.

Our new garden has just yesterday started to erupt shoots up out of it,
but it might snow tonight... Mother Nature again slapping back our
pathetic human attempts to guess when's the best time to rake off the
protective mulch.

Decisions decisions. The very planet hangs in the balance.

--
4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected (Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.)
P.O. Box 181417, Cleveland, OH 44118 (fax 216-320-9528)
A subsidiary of:
The SubGenius Foundation, Inc. / P.O. Box 204206, Austin, TX 78720-4206
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SubSITE: http://www.subgenius.com
For SubGenius Biz & Orders: call toll free to 1-888-669-2323
or email: jesus@subgenius.com
PRABOB

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Subject: Re: The History of Iraq?
From: Joe Cosby <joecosby@SPAMBLOCKmindspring.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Sun, Mar 30, 2003 12:51 PM
Message-ID: <7kbe8vcjm0ql8c97bsrtf0d56ngt3v3ca0@4ax.com>

On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 11:02:45 -0500, "Rev. Ivan Stang"
<stang@subgenius.com> wrote:

>Our new garden has just yesterday started to erupt shoots up out of it,

Outch I had that happen to me once. Try eating a lot of b-complex
vitamins

--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com

"You're not a real bright fella, I see."

THE SEARING BLADE OF THE WIT OF "BIG WOOD" (BigWood@thewoodpile.con) UNLEASHED PITILESSLY!!!

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Subject: Re: The History of Iraq?
From: rev dode <dode(pee)@tystie.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Sun, Mar 30, 2003 1:22 PM
Message-ID: <3e8726e6$0$29597$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>

Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:

> In article <3e86b1b6$0$4864$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>, rev dode
> <dode(pee)@tystie.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Alternatively we could just settle back in an easy chair and watch the
>> monkeys play with the pretty fireworks on the goggle box. Personally I'm
>> going to rake the moss covered patch of this planet at the end of my
>> garden, enjoy the sun and figure how to stop paying my taxes.
>
>
> One way to pay less taxes is to be the guy who actually does the books
> for whoever pays your salary. (Or start your own business.) Another way
> is to move to another country and pay THEM instead. Yet another
> approach would be to work for a SubGenius company; then you'd make too
> little money (or have too many expenses) to owe taxes, and it would
> become an entirely moot point.
>

Living in a reasonably civilised country I could consider permanent
unemployment and get back some of those taxes I've already paid. The
problem is I'd have to give up even more of my freedom to the government. I
guess working for myself is probably the best idea, and probably inevitable
given the collapse in industry. If only I'd stuck in at school and learned
something useful I might have some saleable skills like a plumber,
electrician or builder.

Doh!

> And there IS something to be said for not meddling in other peoples'
> bizness in the first place.
>

I think this was one of the first pieces of advise my dad gave me, possibly
just after chew chew chew swallow, it's just as valid as a grown up as it
was as a kid. Which reminds me of what really bother me about the level of
debate over Iraq, it's like those arguments about glasses, marbles and who
started what first that I can vaguely recall from the primary school
playground.

> Our new garden has just yesterday started to erupt shoots up out of it,
> but it might snow tonight... Mother Nature again slapping back our
> pathetic human attempts to guess when's the best time to rake off the
> protective mulch.
>

The spring has sprung
the grass is gris...

I now have real dirt, real digable dirt and I'm digging it like a hippy at
an Ozric Tentacles gig. My clay turning muscles can now waste away leaving
me with the traditional Scots male spindly upper body perched on top of a
gut of homeresque proportions carried around on wee matchstick man legs.

You guys get real weather, If I'm really unlucky I may have to scrape my car
windows once more before Winter.

> Decisions decisions. The very planet hangs in the balance.
>

I'm off back to stand in what left of the sun and think about it or at least
stand.

Dode

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Subject: Re: The History of Iraq?
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Sun, Mar 30, 2003 1:49 PM
Message-ID: <300320031349087721%stang@subgenius.com>

In article <3e8726e6$0$29597$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>, rev dode
<dode(pee)@tystie.com> wrote:

> Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
>
> > In article <3e86b1b6$0$4864$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>, rev dode
> > <dode(pee)@tystie.com> wrote:
> >
If only I'd stuck in at school and learned
> something useful I might have some saleable skills like a plumber,
> electrician or builder.

It's never too late. Plumbing is by far the least dangerous of the
three and you're guaranteed to have different clients in different
places every day. And they're all completely at your mercy. I've been
an assistant-all-three, is how I know. The plumbers have colder, wetter
asses, but more fingers.

It's hand-to-mouth though and not all wives enjoy that suspense.

>
> I now have real dirt, real digable dirt and I'm digging it like a hippy at
> an Ozric Tentacles gig.

That IS about as hippy as one can get, isn't it, bless Ozric Tentacles.

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