Subject: War protests get low TV ratings

From: modemac@modemac.com (Modemac)
Newsgroups: alt.slack,rec.arts.tv
Date: Tue, Apr 1, 2003 8:37 AM
Message-ID: <b71f73eb.0304010537.34979444@posting.google.com>

And this means that we'll be seeing fewer of them on TV.

Source: Internet Movie Database

TV News Managers Advise: More Patriotic Music, Fewer Protests

"Television news consultants have been urging managers of local TV
stations to take advantage of overwhelming public support for the U.S.
invasion of Iraq, according to the Washington Post. The newspaper
quoted from a "War Manual" sent by Cleveland-based McVay Media to
clients advising: 'Get the following production pieces in the studio
NOW:... Patriotic music that makes you cry, salute, get cold chills!
Go for the emotion ... Air the National Anthem at a specified time
each day as long as the USA is at war.' A survey released by
consulting firm Frank N. Magid Associates indicated that audiences
have little interest in watching anti-war protests."

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Subject: Re: War protests get low TV ratings
From: Joe Cosby <joecosby@SPAMBLOCKmindspring.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack,rec.arts.tv
Date: Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:28 AM
Message-ID: <hd8j8v8b6utvak9tfbnq5ttsp016vgk8hv@4ax.com>

On 1 Apr 2003 05:37:38 -0800, modemac@modemac.com (Modemac) wrote:

>And this means that we'll be seeing fewer of them on TV.
>
>Source: Internet Movie Database
>
>TV News Managers Advise: More Patriotic Music, Fewer Protests
>
>"Television news consultants have been urging managers of local TV
>stations to take advantage of overwhelming public support for the U.S.
>invasion of Iraq, according to the Washington Post. The newspaper
>quoted from a "War Manual" sent by Cleveland-based McVay Media to
>clients advising: 'Get the following production pieces in the studio
>NOW:... Patriotic music that makes you cry, salute, get cold chills!
>Go for the emotion ... Air the National Anthem at a specified time
>each day as long as the USA is at war.' A survey released by
>consulting firm Frank N. Magid Associates indicated that audiences
>have little interest in watching anti-war protests."

Didn't somebody do an experiment once where they hooked a monkey up to
a machine with two swiches, one of them would give the monkey a dose
of cocaine, and the other would give the monkey food, and the monkey
starved itself to death by choosing the coke doses over and over and
over again?

--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com

Fof upi

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Subject: Re: War protests get low TV ratings
From: "nu-monet v5.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack,rec.arts.tv
Reply-To: like.excess@sex.org
Date: Tue, Apr 1, 2003 10:16 AM
Message-ID: <3E89AD6B.446F@succeeds.com>

Joe Cosby wrote:
>
> Didn't somebody do an experiment once where
> they hooked a monkey up to a machine with
> two swiches, one of them would give the
> monkey a dose of cocaine, and the other
> would give the monkey food, and the monkey
> starved itself to death by choosing the
> coke doses over and over and over again?
>

Except it was teenagers, and if they pushed the
first switch, they got to see a glimpse of porn
but got an electrical shock if they touched
themselves; and if they pushed the second switch
they could touch themself, but as soon as they
did, an attractive member of the opposite sex
would laugh at them.

Didn't you have that class in high school?

BTW, you remember that psychology experiment
where you are ordered to give somebody electrical
shocks? Well, I got to do that, but there was
an interruption before we began and I noticed
that they hadn't wired up the victim's chair to
the electrical current properly. So before they
came back, I re-wired everything so they experiment
would work right.

The guy on the chair was a real pussy. He died
after "level 6". But they let me go up to "level
8", anyway, until he started to smoke. Then they
asked me to leave.

--
"It's like the Roman Empire. Wasn't everybody
running around just covered with syphilis?
And then it was destroyed by the volcano."
--Joan Collins

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Subject: Re: War protests get low TV ratings
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack,rec.arts.tv
Date: Tue, Apr 1, 2003 10:21 AM
Message-ID: <010420031021589713%stang@subgenius.com>

In article <hd8j8v8b6utvak9tfbnq5ttsp016vgk8hv@4ax.com>, Joe Cosby
<joecosby@SPAMBLOCKmindspring.com> wrote:

> On 1 Apr 2003 05:37:38 -0800, modemac@modemac.com (Modemac) wrote:
>
> >And this means that we'll be seeing fewer of them on TV.
> >
> >Source: Internet Movie Database
> >
> >TV News Managers Advise: More Patriotic Music, Fewer Protests
> >
> >"Television news consultants have been urging managers of local TV
> >stations to take advantage of overwhelming public support for the U.S.
> >invasion of Iraq, according to the Washington Post. The newspaper
> >quoted from a "War Manual" sent by Cleveland-based McVay Media to
> >clients advising: 'Get the following production pieces in the studio
> >NOW:... Patriotic music that makes you cry, salute, get cold chills!
> >Go for the emotion ... Air the National Anthem at a specified time
> >each day as long as the USA is at war.' A survey released by
> >consulting firm Frank N. Magid Associates indicated that audiences
> >have little interest in watching anti-war protests."
>
> Didn't somebody do an experiment once where they hooked a monkey up to
> a machine with two swiches, one of them would give the monkey a dose
> of cocaine, and the other would give the monkey food, and the monkey
> starved itself to death by choosing the coke doses over and over and
> over again?

I would think that the behavior of the mainstream media has been almost
disgusting enough to drive hawks dove-wards for something besides a
good meal, just out of contrariness.

The war broke out on a Wednesday night... by Friday night there had
been 1400 protestors arrested in San Francisco ALONE. I knew this ONLY
because I had been closely watching thew tiny subtitles of news bits
that run at the bottom of Fox and CNN. (I was at a hotel and those were
my choices.) Also, I was expecting it, remembering Gulf War One. There
was a wee contrast then too between what CNN was telling me and what my
pals in San Francisco were telling me.

By Saturday they were actually SHOWING the masses of protestors because
the masses had become A QUARTER OF A MILLION IN NEW YORK CITY. You'd
get 1 minute of Live-Cam of cops and demonstrators running around,
almost like war footage, but less movie-trailer-like. But for each
minute of that kind of action there would follow a couple of minutes
about, say, three patriotic high school kids and their brave high
school radio station that plays Pink country western and Pink Rock to
support the troops.

Being a contrarian myself, this paradoxically caused me to do
PROTESTOR-supporting during my Winterstar rant even though I was very
hopeful that particular weekend of the old fabled "Quickie- Win."

Instead it was a Quickie Hope-Dashing when sources for real news, such
as it is, started springing up. So now I avoid the TV again, but check
various websites every god damn fucking hour or so. (Admittedly not so
much out of civic pride as from sheer mordidity.)

The local TV news here in Cleveland seem to have a policy of finding
the most ill-informed and poorly-spoken, yet loudest, at any local
demonstration, and zeroing in on his or her dumbest, most irrational
and inflamatory statements. This is usually followed by a story about
the brave local youth who died fighting over there. All of the stations
do it but only the Fox anchors add their own extended "zingers" and
editorial comments about the traitorousness of any protestor in any
time of war. The Command Center spokesmen at least go to the trouble of
maintaining the ILLUSION that they are TRYING to APPEAR to be objective
and truthful. The TV fux give us credit for way less intelligence.

They ASSUME that I, viewer, am a right wing fuckwad, just like most
anti-war folks seem to ASSUME that I, Patriopsychotic
AnarchoMaterialist, am a left wing fuckwad. Meanwhile what I, robot
really needs is oil, a new muffler and a paint job.

Nonetheless I support the troops. That is, I want them to kill the
other guy before he kills them. It HAS occured to me that if the troops
were to just leave, the other guy would not be ABLE to kill them except
via flying the odd airliner into the odd building or releasing the odd
flu plague or setting off the odd mad-bomber-bomb over here. All of
which is already happening anyway so what's the difference.

Well I'm just real glad that i didn't put myself into the position of
having to choose, because I honestly would not know what to do. There
are plenty of GOOD reasons for killing certain Iraqi fux. AS LONG AS
ONE CAN KEEP THE PRICE DOWN.

But. Yikes.

--
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Modemac wrote:
>
> And this means that we'll be seeing
> fewer of them on TV.
>
> Source: Internet Movie Database
>
> TV News Managers Advise: More Patriotic
> Music, Fewer Protests
>

I'm not surprised. I think the very first
Vietnam-era protest to get *any* major
airplay was the Chicago riots, and then only
because of the Democratic national convention,
*and* Daly Sr.'s ham-handed police brutality
approach, *and* because the convention was
getting dull (mostly because conventions
weren't yet choreographed as media events.)

The other stuff just got a paragraph or two
here and there. Mostly as "crime news".

The irony is that the protests that went bad
probably helped sustain both Johnson and Nixon's
war policies, becoming less and less appreciated
by "the silent majority."

And as wimpy as the protestors were, after Kent
State the protests just dried up. And the final
nail in the coffin was when Nixon ended the draft.

--
Anyone with a gun pointed
at you is the government.
--nu-monet

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