a reasonable protocol?

From: "nu-monet v4.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack,alt.friday,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Date: Mon, May 27, 2002 7:42 PM

The US, Russia, China, France and Great Britain have
maintained their nuclear arsenals for the duration of
the Cold War without resorting to their aggressive use,
and have also established many protocols to reduce and
mitigate the possibility that nuclear weapons will be
used in an aggressive manner.

Several of these protocols, such as "Fail Safe", both
reduced the possibility of an accidental strategic
nuclear exchange and prevented a single person from
being able to initiate such an attack.

However, their efforts at nuclear non-proliferation have
evidently failed, resulting in the development of nuclear
weapons by far less stable or sensible regimes.

Therefore, a new protocol is required. The agreement of
additional governments is not important to carrying out
this protocol.

"On the event of the aggressive detonation of a nuclear
weapon by one nation on another, the leaders of the five
permanent security council members will direct as many
nuclear resources as necessary to utterly annihilate all
people within the aggressor nation. This attack shall
use only airburst munitions to minimize destruction of
the physical assets of the aggressor nation. All lands,
properties and resources of the aggressor nation shall
then become permanent compensation to the nation first
attacked."

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From: friday@fridayjones.com (Friday Jones)

In article <3cf2ced8.9091299@news.cis.dfn.de>, joecosby@mindspring.com (Joe
Cosby) wrote:

>"nu-monet v4.0" <nothing@succeeds.com> hunched over a computer, typing
>feverishly;
>thunder crashed, "nu-monet v4.0" <nothing@succeeds.com> laughed madly,
>then wrote:

>>"On the event of the aggressive detonation of a nuclear
>>weapon by one nation on another, the leaders of the five
>>permanent security council members will direct as many
>>nuclear resources as necessary to utterly annihilate all
>>people within the aggressor nation. This attack shall
>>use only airburst munitions to minimize destruction of
>>the physical assets of the aggressor nation. All lands,
>>properties and resources of the aggressor nation shall
>>then become permanent compensation to the nation first
>>attacked."

Um, what if I just accidentally drop a nuke on another nation, peaceful-like?

This could be exploited by a ruthless enough nation: set off a nuke in
their own hinterlands, say "They did it!" and thereby get approval to bomb
They into pulp and take They's lands.

And thank you, Joe, for quoting me so often in your .sig file(s)!

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"On one occasion, at a textile conference in Finland last year, the bogus
WTO official making a presentation removed his clothes to reveal a golden
leotard with a metre long golden phallus containing what he called video
interface which could be used to deliver electric shocks to employees in
the developing world not working hard enough.
A spokesman for the Yes Men said that nobody at the conference seemed to
spot the hoax.
The main complaint made at the time, he said, was from a woman who said the
phallus metaphor was inappropriate because women too can exploit workers."
-- BBC article on WTO-spoofers The Yes Men

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From: joecosby@mindspring.com (Joe Cosby)

(Friday Jones) laughed madly,
then wrote:

>This could be exploited by a ruthless enough nation: set off a nuke in
>their own hinterlands, say "They did it!" and thereby get approval to bomb
>They into pulp and take They's lands.
>

Remind me not to vote for you when you run for Empress of the
Universe.

>>--
>>Joe Cosby
>>http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com
>>
>>THE HAT IS NOT YOUR ENEMY.
>>
>>
>>Sig by Kookie Jar 5.98d http://go.to/generalfrenetics/
>
>And thank you, Joe, for quoting me so often in your .sig file(s)!
>

you come up with some good ones.

>---
>
>"On one occasion, at a textile conference in Finland last year, the bogus
>WTO official making a presentation removed his clothes to reveal a golden
>leotard with a metre long golden phallus containing what he called video
>interface which could be used to deliver electric shocks to employees in
>the developing world not working hard enough.
>A spokesman for the Yes Men said that nobody at the conference seemed to
>spot the hoax.
>The main complaint made at the time, he said, was from a woman who said the
>phallus metaphor was inappropriate because women too can exploit workers."
> -- BBC article on WTO-spoofers The Yes Men

You'll forgive me if I skip this one though.

My brain is still struggling with it.

--
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From: "William Tucker" <wmftucker@earthlink.net>

"Joe Cosby" <joecosby@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:3cf2ced8.9091299@news.cis.dfn.de...

<snip a doodle>

> THE HAT IS NOT YOUR ENEMY.

from the book "The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat"

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From: Her Ladyship Lilith von Fraumench <lilith@ZubJenius.com>

In article <3CF2C47C.1D4@succeeds.com>, nu-monet v4.0
<nothing@succeeds.com> wrote:

> "On the event of the aggressive detonation of a nuclear
> weapon by one nation on another, the leaders of the five
> permanent security council members will direct as many
> nuclear resources as necessary to utterly annihilate all
> people within the aggressor nation. This attack shall
> use only airburst munitions to minimize destruction of
> the physical assets of the aggressor nation. All lands,
> properties and resources of the aggressor nation shall
> then become permanent compensation to the nation first
> attacked."

Japan will begin bombing in 30 days. All Americans who do not wish to
be killed are recommended to apply for Canadian citizenship
immediately.

Welcome to the United States of Nippon.

Her Ladyship Lilith

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From: "nu-monet v4.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>

Her Ladyship Lilith von Fraumench wrote:

> Japan will begin bombing in 30 days. All Americans who do
> not wish to be killed are recommended to apply for Canadian
> citizenship immediately.
>
> Welcome to the United States of Nippon.
>

You misunderstand. Whatever their flaws, it is now incumbent
on these five nuclear nations to police everybody. There is
no veto in this protocol, only the unwillingness to commit
assests in carrying it out by any of the members.
They continue to police each other through friendliness, or
by mutual threat.
It hearkens back to Mutually Assured Destruction, except that
the five nuclear powers have such overwhelming assets over any
other nation that they reduce its capability to retaliate to
nothing, making even the single aggressive use of a nuclear
device a suicidal act.

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From: IMBJR <imbjr@imbjr.com>

>You misunderstand. Whatever their flaws, it is now incumbent
>on these five nuclear nations to police everybody. There is
>no veto in this protocol, only the unwillingness to commit
>assests in carrying it out by any of the members.
>They continue to police each other through friendliness, or
>by mutual threat.
>It hearkens back to Mutually Assured Destruction, except that
>the five nuclear powers have such overwhelming assets over any
>other nation that they reduce its capability to retaliate to
>nothing, making even the single aggressive use of a nuclear
>device a suicidal act.

What of having to fry one's neighbour? I'd rather not live next to a
holocaust.

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From: joecosby@mindspring.com (Joe Cosby)

NUKE CANADA you FUCKING COWARD

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hard as you can, and miss.
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From: IMBJR <imbjr@imbjr.com>

On Tue, 28 May 2002 21:56:08 GMT, joecosby@mindspring.com (Joe Cosby)
wrote:

>NUKE CANADA you FUCKING COWARD

I've no problem with that (apart from the bacon question).

However, although some of the neighbours of In-Gland could do with a
severe poke with a stick, I don't want it in my backyard.

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From: joecosby@mindspring.com (Joe Cosby)

IMBJR <imbjr@imbjr.com> hunched over a computer, typing feverishly;
thunder crashed, IMBJR <imbjr@imbjr.com> laughed madly, then wrote:

>I've no problem with that (apart from the bacon question).
>
>However, although some of the neighbours of In-Gland could do with a
>severe poke with a stick, I don't want it in my backyard.

NUKE FRANCE you COWARD

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From: Her Ladyship Lilith von Fraumench <lilith@ZubJenius.com>

In article <3CF3E191.2E75@succeeds.com>, nu-monet v4.0
<nothing@succeeds.com> wrote:

> You misunderstand.

Jokes aren't funny? I'm not sure what I misunderstood. This alt.slack,
no? Me funny ha-ha, yes? Yoo spreek jahpahneezee!

Her Ladyship Lilith

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From: bobdiddley@aol.com (Bobdiddley)

Yes, but: 1) stray radiation crosses international boundaries, and will slowly
kill us all.
2) Most contracts and treaties are not retroactive.

Not that I wish to detract from the cleverness and appropriateness, and most
importantly, the underlying TRUTH in what the Lady says...

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From: joecosby@mindspring.com (Joe Cosby)

bobdiddley@aol.com (Bobdiddley) wrote:

>Yes, but: 1) stray radiation crosses international boundaries, and will slowly
>kill us all.

Ever been to Utah? Ra-di-a-tion. Yes, indeed. You hear the most
outrageous lies about it. Half-baked goggle-box do-gooders telling
everybody it's bad for you. Pernicious nonsense! Everybody could stand
a hundred chest X-rays a year. They ought to have them, too. When
they canceled the project it almost did me in. One day my mind was
full to bursting. The next day - nothing. Swept away. But I'll show
them. I had a lobotomy in the end.

>2) Most contracts and treaties are not retroactive.
>
>Not that I wish to detract from the cleverness and appropriateness, and most
>importantly, the underlying TRUTH in what the Lady says...

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From: "nu-monet v4.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>

Bobdiddley wrote:

> Yes, but: 1) stray radiation crosses international boundaries,
> and will slowly kill us all.

Where your confusion lies is with the difference between
"radiation" and "radioactive particles", mostly fallout.
Radiation is like light. A person cannot "catch" light and
spread it on someone else. Radioactive particles, however,
are like dust. Mostly caused by a groundburst munition that
blows lots of dust up into the air while irradiating it with
a lot of radiation at very close range.

And if you hit dirt with a lot of radiation, you will make
some of it radioactive. So if you don't want a lot of
fallout, you explode your bomb up in the air. Ergo, a
"cleaner" nuclear explosion.

Radiation in an airburst is either a spherical area emanating
outward from the center of the burst (and following the inverse
square law, so being terribly wasteful); OR, as with most airburst
weapons today, it is designed to be directed downward in a conical
shape onto the ground below.

The "neutron bomb" that was very big in the news a couple of
decades ago is just this. It is designed to incinerate almost
all of its radioactive particles in airburst detonation, projecting
a cone of mostly invisible radiation earthward like a giant flash-
light.

The heat it produces is not enough to incinerate a piece of paper
on the ground directly below the blast, but a person, animal, or
plant will get so much radiation that they will die in seconds.
Buildings remain, though most electronic parts will be destroyed.
There might not even be an intolerable amount of noise--just
everybody dies.

Which would make it ideal for this purpose. This purpose being to
stop anyone from ever using nuclear weapons aggressively in the
first place.

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