Subject: Re: NENSLO'S review of "Daredevil"

From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack

nenslo <nenslo@yahooX.com> wrote:

> HellPopeHuey wrote:
>
> > Right, like you were really gonna see his take on that.
> >
> Guy in costume jumps around, gets in fights, kisses girl, beats bad guy.

That IS what one goes to a super-hero movie for.

You left out the fireball, and when you thought the bad guy was dead
but suddenly he wasn't again.

You know what though? "Spider-Man" actually WAS good. That's not an
opinion but a rock-solid objective fact, like something you could look
up in the encyclopedia, or prove in a lab. Can't be argued.

It's when they -- the Hollywood They -- stick strictly with the "Guy in
costume jumps around, gets in fights, kisses girl, beats bad guy"
PURITY that these movies are good. In the Batman movies, they FUCKED
WITH THE PURITY of the ur-cliche. They tainted it with their evil
Hollywood sense of "MODERN, STYLISH" cliche. "Spider-Man" was a case
of the film director actually LIKING the comic book and staying with
the simple monster-ass kicking elements, which were all the comics fans
really asked for anyway.

One day I would still like to see the X-rated "Wild Cards" miniseries,
just to see how badly they'd fuck it up.

I have a copy of the Sam Hamm script of what was going to be a Terry
Gilliam "WATCHMEN" movie. It's very GOOD that this script never was
made. Talk about taking something that was already storyboarded and
scripted PERFECTLY, something that WASN'T BROKEN, and "fixing" it.

But, I guess they wanted to NOT LOSE MONEY. Spoilsports, letting a
little thing like that taint the PURITY of a multimillion dollar
production of a comic book.

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Subject: Re: NENSLO'S review of "Daredevil"
From: "nu-monet v5.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>

Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:

>What I want to see is a GOOD version of
"Dr. Strange." How could they do it?

1) Emphasize the dark, hidden, *secret* and
*invisible* character of his shit. Ordinary
people *cannot* see what he does, so it is
NOT f/x gaudy pastel rainbow colors with noisy
sound effects. His hand gestures, cape and
amulet just blend in. A major battle on the
street entails just two guys staring at each
other and twiddling their fingers a bit. Only
when you see things from his or the bad guys'
point of view do you see dream bodies and all
the other comix stuff. Of course in nether
realms is where you get the real knock-down
drag out fights in all the technicolor glory.

2) Strange is NOT a nice guy. As a surgeon
he is a repulsive, greedy, womanizing, chain-
smoking bastard with good hands. As a sorcerer
he is still an obsessive/compulsive hard-corps
freek, just turned in a different direction.
He will do ANYTHING to be the Summa Cum Laude
of sorcery. The Old One should properly kick
the snot out of him with sorcery and he should
masochistically come back for more.

3) His villains have to be a whole new order
of creepy. Baron Mordo should make any young
teenager drop a loaf in his trou. The Dread
Dormammu should make young kids lose it late
at night when they see any kind of red, glowing
light. And there is no deep psychology to the
bad guys. Their motives are NOT known, just
that they are brimming with ideas TOO HORRIBLE
to imagine what would happen if Strange doesn't
severly whup them.

4) If ordinary people cannot ignore what he
does, they REALLY get fucked up. Brain damage,
bloody noses, catatonia, raving insanity, death.
Strange is the only thing keeping a HORDE of
nasties from invading and conquering the world.

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