From: nenslo <nenslo@yahooX.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Mon, Feb 17, 2003 1:12 AM
Message-ID: <3E507D49.9371418D@yahooX.com>
"Rev. Ivan Stang" wrote:
>
>
> I thought "The Hollow Man" was quite
good for the first hour. Its
> climax was such a huge let-down, however, that
it negated what came
> before. I am sick to fucking death of movies in
which I can predict
> every single fireball long before the protagonist
is flying through the
> air in front of it. I am sick to death of movies
where the instant you
> see the comedy relief character, you know he's
going to die and when. I
> cannot take any more instances of the bad guy being
"killed" but then
> WHEN THE GOOD BOY AND GIRL HUG EACH OTHER IN RELIEF,
THE BAD GUY
> SUDDENLY COMES BACK TO LIFE AND ATTACKS *AGAIN*!
Which now commonly
> happens up to FOUR TIMES per ending. It actually
WORKED for John
> Carpenter's HALLOWEEN in the ealry seventies.
>
Today I watched "Hans Christian Andersen"
starring Danny Kaye. You
watch that and you will just wish ANY of those things
you hated about
that other movie would happen even for a second. On
the plus side,
huge lush Hollywood indoor "outdoor" sets,
and the fantasy ballets
re-agogged me (though not as truly mind-fucked as the
fantasy ballets
in "The Red Shoes") after I thought I was
all agogged out from the
smoke and trapeze sequence in "Million Dollar Mermaid"
the other
night, which you really have to see in context and not
as clips in a
compilation movie to truly get gogged by. However I
finally got Mrs.
N to watch "Confidential Report" (aka Mr.
Arkadin) last night [because
otherwise it was "Hans Christian Andersen"
or Shirley Temple in "The
Littlest Rebel"] and I appreciate it more every
time I see it. Makes
"Touch of Evil" look like a BIG MISTAKE.
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Subject: Re: Off-Fucking Time!
From: talysman <talysman@globalsurrealism.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Mon, Feb 17, 2003 3:14 AM
Message-ID: <wkvfzj72bi.fsf@globalsurrealism.com>
nenslo <nenslo@yahooX.com> writes:
> Today I watched "Hans Christian Andersen"
starring Danny Kaye. You
> watch that and you will just wish ANY of those
things you hated about
> that other movie would happen even for a second.
On the plus side,
> huge lush Hollywood indoor "outdoor"
sets, and the fantasy ballets
> re-agogged me (though not as truly mind-fucked
as the fantasy ballets
> in "The Red Shoes") after I thought I
was all agogged out from the
> smoke and trapeze sequence in "Million Dollar
Mermaid" the other
> night, which you really have to see in context
and not as clips in a
> compilation movie to truly get gogged by.
dammit.
you are the second person this month to make me want
to see good ol'
erol flynn's "the adventures of robin hood".
only it ain't gonna
happen. I already checked at blockbuster; they don't
have it. of
course not! why would anyone want to see something made
before 1990?
if you can believe it, the *first* person this month
to plant these
robin-hood-watching desires in me referred to kevin
costner's "robin
hood: prince of thieves" as "the good version".
I nearly flew into
a murderous rage.
speaking of assholes at blockbuster, I also have been
having '50s
rocketship sci-fi desires all month, but couldn't find
anything to
fit that bill. this sucks even worse than not finding
any erol flynn
movies, because I also have some good research reasons
to watch '50s
sci-fi. but no "destination moon", no "rocketship
X-M"... they may
have had "angry red planet", but I forget.
dammit, I wish those "man conquers space"
people would hurry up and
finish their movie.
http://users.bigpond.net.au/surfacesrendered/MCSHomepage.html
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Subject: Re: Off-Fucking Time!
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Mon, Feb 17, 2003 12:11 PM
Message-ID: <170220031211185945%stang@subgenius.com>
In article <3E507D49.9371418D@yahooX.com>, nenslo
<nenslo@yahooX.com>
wrote:
> "Rev. Ivan Stang" wrote:
> >
> >
> > I thought "The Hollow Man" was quite
good for the first hour. Its
> > climax was such a huge let-down, however,
that it negated what came
> > before. I am sick to fucking death of movies
in which I can predict
> > every single fireball long before the protagonist
is flying through the
> > air in front of it. I am sick to death of
movies where the instant you
> > see the comedy relief character, you know
he's going to die and when. I
> > cannot take any more instances of the bad
guy being "killed" but then
> > WHEN THE GOOD BOY AND GIRL HUG EACH OTHER
IN RELIEF, THE BAD GUY
> > SUDDENLY COMES BACK TO LIFE AND ATTACKS *AGAIN*!
Which now commonly
> > happens up to FOUR TIMES per ending. It actually
WORKED for John
> > Carpenter's HALLOWEEN in the ealry seventies.
> >
>
> Today I watched "Hans Christian Andersen"
starring Danny Kaye. You
> watch that and you will just wish ANY of those
things you hated about
> that other movie would happen even for a second.
On the plus side,
> huge lush Hollywood indoor "outdoor"
sets, and the fantasy ballets
> re-agogged me (though not as truly mind-fucked
as the fantasy ballets
> in "The Red Shoes") after I thought I
was all agogged out from the
> smoke and trapeze sequence in "Million Dollar
Mermaid" the other
> night, which you really have to see in context
and not as clips in a
> compilation movie to truly get gogged by. However
I finally got Mrs.
> N to watch "Confidential Report" (aka
Mr. Arkadin) last night [because
> otherwise it was "Hans Christian Andersen"
or Shirley Temple in "The
> Littlest Rebel"] and I appreciate it more
every time I see it. Makes
> "Touch of Evil" look like a BIG MISTAKE.
I saw "Million Dollar Mermaid" by accident
one night -- was just
changing channels and came upon a scene that made me
stop and go, "WOT
THE FOK?!?" If it's the one I'm thinking of, it
was a standard Busby
Berkley type musical story, but the musical babe swimming
sequences
were really unearthly. I missed the first 20 minutes
or so but was able
to get into the story fairly quickly on account of the
lead babe's fair
limbs.
I know nothing of this "Confidential Report."
I've been looking for a copy of "Rocketship XM"
because I think the
scenes of the busty lady astronaut strapped down and
helplessly
undergoing great G-force as the rocket takes off affected
my mind-nut
connection when I last saw that film at age 5.
Ever see "The Trial," Orson Welles' version
of the Kafka story? It's
about as subtle as a sledgehammer. I love it.
The most fucked up musical I ever saw was on Chinese
national TV in
Beijing in the 80s. It was a movie of a classical Chinese
opera of a
fairy tale of some kind, involving a Cloud Kingdom,
an Underwater
Kingdom, various gods and devils, and music that I swear
to god sounded
to me like crazy people banging coffee cans together
and screaming off
key. GOD how I yearned for a VCR or even a super 8 camera
that day. I
tape recorded the sound, but that was pointless. It
was the craziest
fucking thing I ever saw on film. I shall never forget
the expressions
on those weird-ass actors' painted faces as they belted
out those
measured screams. And it was just everyday Chinese daytime
TV, a rerun
of an old movie, probably something everybody there
was sick of.
Those Chinese operas are not a form that has ever become
trendy yet in
the West, to my knowledge.
--
4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath
of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected (Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.)
P.O. Box 181417, Cleveland, OH 44118 (fax 216-320-9528)
A subsidiary of:
The SubGenius Foundation, Inc. / P.O. Box 204206, Austin,
TX 78720-4206
Dobbs-Approved Authorized Commercial Outreach of The
Church of the SubGenius
SubSITE: http://www.subgenius.com
For SubGenius Biz & Orders: call toll free to 1-888-669-2323
or email: jesus@subgenius.com
PRABOB
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Subject: Re: Off-Fucking Time!
From: El Queso <""the_cheese_23\"@(nospam)yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Mon, Feb 17, 2003 5:55 PM
Message-ID: <jLd4a.56845$QU2.1511828@news2.west.cox.net>
Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
> In article <3E507D49.9371418D@yahooX.com>,
nenslo <nenslo@yahooX.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>"Rev. Ivan Stang" wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I thought "The Hollow Man" was
quite good for the first hour. Its
>>>climax was such a huge let-down, however,
that it negated what came
>>>before. I am sick to fucking death of movies
in which I can predict
>>>every single fireball long before the protagonist
is flying through the
>>>air in front of it. I am sick to death of
movies where the instant you
>>>see the comedy relief character, you know
he's going to die and when. I
>>>cannot take any more instances of the bad
guy being "killed" but then
>>>WHEN THE GOOD BOY AND GIRL HUG EACH OTHER
IN RELIEF, THE BAD GUY
>>>SUDDENLY COMES BACK TO LIFE AND ATTACKS
*AGAIN*! Which now commonly
>>>happens up to FOUR TIMES per ending. It
actually WORKED for John
>>>Carpenter's HALLOWEEN in the ealry seventies.
>>>
>>
>>Today I watched "Hans Christian Andersen"
starring Danny Kaye. You
>>watch that and you will just wish ANY of those
things you hated about
>>that other movie would happen even for a second.
On the plus side,
>>huge lush Hollywood indoor "outdoor"
sets, and the fantasy ballets
>>re-agogged me (though not as truly mind-fucked
as the fantasy ballets
>>in "The Red Shoes") after I thought
I was all agogged out from the
>>smoke and trapeze sequence in "Million
Dollar Mermaid" the other
>>night, which you really have to see in context
and not as clips in a
>>compilation movie to truly get gogged by. However
I finally got Mrs.
>>N to watch "Confidential Report" (aka
Mr. Arkadin) last night [because
>>otherwise it was "Hans Christian Andersen"
or Shirley Temple in "The
>>Littlest Rebel"] and I appreciate it more
every time I see it. Makes
>>"Touch of Evil" look like a BIG MISTAKE.
>
>
> I saw "Million Dollar Mermaid" by accident
one night -- was just
> changing channels and came upon a scene that made
me stop and go, "WOT
> THE FOK?!?" If it's the one I'm thinking of,
it was a standard Busby
> Berkley type musical story, but the musical babe
swimming sequences
> were really unearthly. I missed the first 20 minutes
or so but was able
> to get into the story fairly quickly on account
of the lead babe's fair
> limbs.
>
> I know nothing of this "Confidential Report."
>
> I've been looking for a copy of "Rocketship
XM" because I think the
> scenes of the busty lady astronaut strapped down
and helplessly
> undergoing great G-force as the rocket takes off
affected my mind-nut
> connection when I last saw that film at age 5.
>
> Ever see "The Trial," Orson Welles' version
of the Kafka story? It's
> about as subtle as a sledgehammer. I love it.
>
> The most fucked up musical I ever saw was on Chinese
national TV in
> Beijing in the 80s. It was a movie of a classical
Chinese opera of a
> fairy tale of some kind, involving a Cloud Kingdom,
an Underwater
> Kingdom, various gods and devils, and music that
I swear to god sounded
> to me like crazy people banging coffee cans together
and screaming off
> key. GOD how I yearned for a VCR or even a super
8 camera that day. I
> tape recorded the sound, but that was pointless.
It was the craziest
> fucking thing I ever saw on film. I shall never
forget the expressions
> on those weird-ass actors' painted faces as they
belted out those
> measured screams. And it was just everyday Chinese
daytime TV, a rerun
> of an old movie, probably something everybody there
was sick of.
>
> Those Chinese operas are not a form that has ever
become trendy yet in
> the West, to my knowledge.
Just the stars like Jackie Chan, Sammo Hung, and Yuen
Woo Ping
(Choreographed the Matrix and Crouching Tiger). So in
a way, Chinese
Opera has had an impact, just not the full "painted
faces and clangy
gongs" part.
Cheers,
Queso
>
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Subject: Re: Off-Fucking Time!
From: nenslo <nenslo@yahooX.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Tue, Feb 18, 2003 3:26 AM
Message-ID: <3E51EE4C.8AA5572E@yahooX.com>
El Queso wrote:
>
>
> > Those Chinese operas are not a form that has
ever become trendy yet in
> > the West, to my knowledge.
>
> Just the stars like Jackie Chan, Sammo Hung, and
Yuen Woo Ping
> (Choreographed the Matrix and Crouching Tiger).
So in a way, Chinese
> Opera has had an impact, just not the full "painted
faces and clangy
> gongs" part.
Queero, you dope, Jackie Chan has about as much to do
with Chinese
Opera as Britney Spears has to do with Tannhauser.
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Subject: Re: Off-Fucking Time!
From: nenslo <nenslo@yahooX.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Tue, Feb 18, 2003 3:25 AM
Message-ID: <3E51EDDC.1EDF0CA6@yahooX.com>
"Rev. Ivan Stang" wrote:
>
>
> I saw "Million Dollar Mermaid" by accident
one night -- was just
> changing channels and came upon a scene that made
me stop and go, "WOT
> THE FOK?!?" If it's the one I'm thinking of,
it was a standard Busby
> Berkley type musical story, but the musical babe
swimming sequences
> were really unearthly. I missed the first 20 minutes
or so but was able
> to get into the story fairly quickly on account
of the lead babe's fair
> limbs.
Yeah, it's "based on a true story" and the
musical sequences are by
Berkeley - and Esther Williams is the gal I'd most like
to get into an
Andean plane crash with. Those calves could feed you
for a week.
>
> I know nothing of this "Confidential Report."
It's one time Orson Welles' yeti gene was just sublimated
enough not
to totally fuck things up, and since it was made off-hollywood
it
avoided that type of fucking up as well. Yet it is
continuously and
consistently a whirling dream of derangement. Amazingly
I actually
have a paperback copy of Welles' novel from which he
derived the screenplay.
>
>
> Ever see "The Trial," Orson Welles' version
of the Kafka story? It's
> about as subtle as a sledgehammer. I love it.
Not yet.
>
> Those Chinese operas are not a form that has ever
become trendy yet in
> the West, to my knowledge.
>
I love that stuff - all that crashing and squawking!
Those gongs are
the BEST.
CLANG KA CLANKACLANKA CLANG!!
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Subject: Re: Off-Fucking Time!
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Mon, Feb 17, 2003 12:35 PM
Message-ID: <170220031235524618%stang@subgenius.com>
In article <wkvfzj72bi.fsf@globalsurrealism.com>,
talysman
<talysman@globalsurrealism.com> wrote:
> nenslo <nenslo@yahooX.com> writes:
>
> > Today I watched "Hans Christian Andersen"
starring Danny Kaye. You
> > watch that and you will just wish ANY of those
things you hated about
> > that other movie would happen even for a second.
On the plus side,
> > huge lush Hollywood indoor "outdoor"
sets, and the fantasy ballets
> > re-agogged me (though not as truly mind-fucked
as the fantasy ballets
> > in "The Red Shoes") after I thought
I was all agogged out from the
> > smoke and trapeze sequence in "Million
Dollar Mermaid" the other
> > night, which you really have to see in context
and not as clips in a
> > compilation movie to truly get gogged by.
>
> dammit.
>
> you are the second person this month to make me
want to see good ol'
> erol flynn's "the adventures of robin hood".
only it ain't gonna
> happen. I already checked at blockbuster; they
don't have it. of
> course not! why would anyone want to see something
made before 1990?
FUNNY YOU SHOULD MENTION THAT! I caught that as a youth
and remembered
it as the ULTIMATE swashbuckler. Around 1985 right after
Book of the
SubGenius came out I decided I better start thinking
about a SubGenius
Movie. Good thing I started then because I'm still thinking
about it.
Anyway, as with any project, I decided to start at the
top, shoot for
the moon, by ripping off the best EXISTING version of
what I had in
mind. So I STUDIED that film and made a written plot
outline.
Deconstructed it. Did search-and-replace (hand written
style) and
voila, a movie treatment!
It kind of sucked though and has been shelved since
1986. That was a
forced approach and less corny ones later presented
themselves.
I had a copy but it was on Beta and has rotted away.
>
> if you can believe it, the *first* person this
month to plant these
> robin-hood-watching desires in me referred to kevin
costner's "robin
> hood: prince of thieves" as "the good
version". I nearly flew into
> a murderous rage.
NO SHIT!!! That thing sucks beyond reason and measure.
>
> speaking of assholes at blockbuster, I also have
been having '50s
> rocketship sci-fi desires all month, but couldn't
find anything to
> fit that bill. this sucks even worse than not finding
any erol flynn
> movies, because I also have some good research
reasons to watch '50s
> sci-fi. but no "destination moon", no
"rocketship X-M"... they may
> have had "angry red planet", but I forget.
HOLY SHIT, YOU MENTIONED ROCKETSHIP XM in the same thread I just did!!!
Man, are we star-crossed lovers or something?!?!? This
is SICK! The
last four times I was in a video store I fruitlessly
looked for
Rocketship XM and Destination Moon. I'll be got-damned.
The fucking bastards -- there's still a "horror"
section, which is
mostly crap, but the science fiction (so to speak) is
in ACTION now. I
got to studying what distinguished "horror"
from "sci-fi/action" in the
minds of the Blockbuster fux, and decided that if it's
got Frankenstein
or skeletons it's horror, if it's got aliens it's sci-fi-action.
See this rocketship website if you haven't:
http://www.rocketshipvideo.com/
>
> dammit, I wish those "man conquers space"
people would hurry up and
> finish their movie.
>
> http://users.bigpond.net.au/surfacesrendered/MCSHomepage.html
WOW! What a KEEN PROJECT!
"This film is based on an alternative timeline
to the
Mercury-Gemini-Apollo era of reality - it is based on
the premise that
all that had been proposed in the early 1950's in Colliers
actually
came to pass - and sooner than they expected.
Through the expert use of special visual effects and
computer-generated
imagery (CGI), the world of wonder and imagination expressed
though
Collier's has become real. The film Man Conquers Space
looks like a
documentary from the 1960's, complete with varying grades
of film
quality, scratches and lab marks, and a tinny soundtrack
- just the way
it would appear today if it had indeed been made over
30 years ago on
the limited budget afforded to documentary makers of
that era."
The downloadable clip looks pretty good!
--
4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath
of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected (Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.)
P.O. Box 181417, Cleveland, OH 44118 (fax 216-320-9528)
A subsidiary of:
The SubGenius Foundation, Inc. / P.O. Box 204206, Austin,
TX 78720-4206
Dobbs-Approved Authorized Commercial Outreach of The
Church of the SubGenius
SubSITE: http://www.subgenius.com
For SubGenius Biz & Orders: call toll free to 1-888-669-2323
or email: jesus@subgenius.com
PRABOB
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Subject: Re: Off-Fucking Time!
From: talysman <talysman@globalsurrealism.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Mon, Feb 17, 2003 2:38 PM
Message-ID: <wkbs1azojx.fsf@globalsurrealism.com>
"Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com> writes:
> In article <wkvfzj72bi.fsf@globalsurrealism.com>,
talysman
> <talysman@globalsurrealism.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
> > speaking of assholes at blockbuster, I also
have been having '50s
> > rocketship sci-fi desires all month, but couldn't
find anything to
> > fit that bill. this sucks even worse than
not finding any erol flynn
> > movies, because I also have some good research
reasons to watch '50s
> > sci-fi. but no "destination moon",
no "rocketship X-M"... they may
> > have had "angry red planet", but
I forget.
>
> HOLY SHIT, YOU MENTIONED ROCKETSHIP XM in the same
thread I just did!!!
>
> Man, are we star-crossed lovers or something?!?!?
This is SICK! The
> last four times I was in a video store I fruitlessly
looked for
> Rocketship XM and Destination Moon. I'll be got-damned.
technically, I'm not SoL, because I have MST3K versions
of Rocketship
XM, 12 to the Moon, and First Spaceship on Venus. oh,
and I think I
have Missile to the Moon, too, if that's the one with
the catwomen.
I did want to see them again unriffed, however, plus
I don't think the
MST3K gang ever did Destination Moon.
still, that's one other reason to praise the Best Brains.
standard
rant to begin shortly...
> The fucking bastards -- there's still a "horror"
section, which is
> mostly crap, but the science fiction (so to speak)
is in ACTION now. I
> got to studying what distinguished "horror"
from "sci-fi/action" in the
> minds of the Blockbuster fux, and decided that
if it's got Frankenstein
> or skeletons it's horror, if it's got aliens it's
sci-fi-action.
yeah, I noticed that, too. like I said, I think I found
"angry red planet"
and also "first spaceship on venus" -- in
the action section, like you
said. the whole thing is enfuriating, because you *know*
there's about a
hundred or so sci-fi movies from the '30s through the
'50s, but the video
stores are renting TWO.
and it's all because a bunch of jackasses have determined
that if there
aren't a hundred thousand potential customers for a
particular product,
then NO ONE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO SEE IT, EVER. if it
wasn't for people
like Best Brains, attempting to salvage old movies (even
if it's just to
laugh at them,) this stuff would be lost forever.
on a brighter note, the restored version of Metropolis
is supposed to
be released on DVD this month. that's one of the benefits
of being THE
GREATEST SCIENCE FICTION MOVIE EVER: people don't forget
about you.
I could continue to rant here about the asshole attitudes
of a culture
that thinks that music, film, and art isn't worthwhile
unless it's the
most up-to-date, the most "in sync" with american
culture, and having
the widest mass appeal possible. however, I don't have
the energy to
vent my bitterness right now. MUCH.
> See this rocketship website if you haven't:
> http://www.rocketshipvideo.com/
looks cool!
I haven't gone through the prelinger archives yet to
see if there's
any space-related stuff. lots of atomic and war stuff,
which I've been
squirreling away, but space stuff would be better for
what I'm planning.
> > dammit, I wish those "man conquers space"
people would hurry up and
> > finish their movie.
> >
> > http://users.bigpond.net.au/surfacesrendered/MCSHomepage.html
>
>
> WOW! What a KEEN PROJECT!
isn't it, though?
this movie, plus that fan-made "starship exeter"
tv series, have made
me all psyched-up about making my own retro-future stuff.
you should
look at the starship exeter stuff, too, if you haven't
already.
http://www.starshipexeter.com/
I mean, sure, these guys are a bunch of STAR TREK GEEKS
in wisconsin,
and they are pretty poor actors, but they set out to
make their own
"old trek"-style video and pretty much hit
all the cliches, and even
did a *better* job on the special effects than the original
trek.
(except for the purple dinosaur.)
do you know what this means? it means ANYONE can make
'60s tv shows!
hell, you could do a subgenius tv show, LEAVE IT TO
"BOB", in black
and white, with the retro-future look, and distribute
it in divx.
or something else entirely. the important part is: large
companies
have controlled publishing, music, and video/film, but
each of those
areas are slowly being returned to the masses. we can
entertain each
other, again! the way we did in the old days! but with
a higher-tech
look!
I will have a little more to say about this in a couple
weeks. gotta
get back to work on my various "projects".
heh heh...
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Subject: Re: Off-Fucking Time!
From: Joe Cosby <joecosby@SPAMBLOCKmindspring.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Mon, Feb 17, 2003 4:50 PM
Message-ID: <58m25vs0knpcor8gsmg4livvfohl9915mv@4ax.com>
On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:38:39 GMT, talysman
<talysman@globalsurrealism.com> wrote:
>technically, I'm not SoL, because I have MST3K versions
of Rocketship
>XM,
tweeeet
Acronym foul, ten yard penalty
resume play
tweeeet
--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com
Language is a virus from outer space.
- William S. Burroughs
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Subject: Re: Off-Fucking Time!
From: ridetheory@yahoo.com (ignatz topolino)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Mon, Feb 17, 2003 9:41 PM
Message-ID: <ece00630.0302171841.5a9df2b0@posting.google.com>
> The last four times I was in a video store I fruitlessly
looked
> for Rocketship XM and Destination Moon. I'll be
got-damned.
Yeesh. I'LL FIND IT FOR YOU!
There. It took me about THIRTY SECONDS on the interweb
to find out
that the Cleveland Public Library has a copy of Destination
Moon.
http://www.cpl.org/
iggy topo
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Subject: Re: Off-Fucking Time!
From: hellpopehuey@subgenius.com (HellPopeHuey)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Mon, Feb 17, 2003 10:06 PM
Message-ID: <8cc8cffc.0302171906.679e20d0@posting.google.com>
nenslo <nenslo@yahooX.com> wrote in message news:<3E507D49.9371418D@yahooX.com>...
>
> Today I watched "Hans Christian Andersen"
starring Danny Kaye. You
> watch that and you will just wish ANY of those
things you hated about
> that other movie would happen even for a second.
I have some regard for Danny. Yes, you have to squint
to cope with
many older flicks, but he did a few songs and shticks
that were pretty
much over the top for the day. His jester bit from "The
Court Jester"
or his music professor song from "The Secret Life
of Walter Mitty" put
most rappers in the toilet, allowing that most belong
there in the
first place.
He also had a nice tenor voice that showed its charms
a few times. I
can forgive the treacly aspects for the sake of his
actual talents, as
well as his willing world tours for UNESCO. He wowed
a lot of kids
with his pidgin takes on their native tongues. It was
a gracious thing
that yielded some needed bucks before the world became
such a vigorous
abbatoir.
BTW, he gave due credit to others. When asked from
whence he got
those great songs, he said "My wife Sylvia (Fine)
wrote those. She has
a good head on my shoulders." Sign of a gentleman.
Yeah, more than a few productions come across like
ipecac these days,
but I've recited that jester piece a few times and it
stands the test
of time as a crowd pleaser.
Hell, even now, we give JANOR some due. Can we do less
for Danny
Kaye? NAY, I say NAY! Let's take it where we can get
it, Joe Cosby's
coffee enemas aside.
--
HellPope Huey® hellpopehuey@subgenius©.com
Once your IQ hits 190, you can't even stand the
company of a cat.
A non-SIAMESE cat, even.
"I gave the kids candy all the time."
"Behind my back. You bought their love."
"It was for sale and I wanted it."
- "The West Wing"
"You wouldn't know Slack
if it drove nine-inch nails into your eyes."
- Saint Janor Hypercleats
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Subject: Re: Off-Fucking Time!
From: nenslo <nenslo@yahooX.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Tue, Feb 18, 2003 3:31 AM
Message-ID: <3E51EF72.1943D6C9@yahooX.com>
HellPopeHuey wrote:
>
> nenslo <nenslo@yahooX.com> wrote in message
news:<3E507D49.9371418D@yahooX.com>...
> >
> > Today I watched "Hans Christian Andersen"
starring Danny Kaye. You
> > watch that and you will just wish ANY of those
things you hated about
> > that other movie would happen even for a second.
>
> I have some regard for Danny. Yes, you have to
squint to cope with
> many older flicks, but he did a few songs and shticks
that were pretty
> much over the top for the day. His jester bit from
"The Court Jester"
> or his music professor song from "The Secret
Life of Walter Mitty" put
> most rappers in the toilet, allowing that most
belong there in the
> first place.
> He also had a nice tenor voice that showed its
charms a few times. I
> can forgive the treacly aspects for the sake of
his actual talents, as
> well as his willing world tours for UNESCO. He
wowed a lot of kids
> with his pidgin takes on their native tongues.
It was a gracious thing
> that yielded some needed bucks before the world
became such a vigorous
> abbatoir.
> BTW, he gave due credit to others. When asked
from whence he got
> those great songs, he said "My wife Sylvia
(Fine) wrote those. She has
> a good head on my shoulders." Sign of a gentleman.
> Yeah, more than a few productions come across
like ipecac these days,
> but I've recited that jester piece a few times
and it stands the test
> of time as a crowd pleaser.
> Hell, even now, we give JANOR some due. Can we
do less for Danny
> Kaye? NAY, I say NAY! Let's take it where we can
get it, Joe Cosby's
> coffee enemas aside.
>
I CAN'T STAND Danny Kaye. I watched that movie to punish myself.
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Subject: Re: Off-Fucking Time!
From: nenslo <nenslo@yahooX.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Tue, Feb 18, 2003 3:12 AM
Message-ID: <3E51EADD.D116953A@yahooX.com>
talysman wrote:
>
> dammit.
> I already checked at blockbuster; they don't have
it.
If you have to go all the way across town to go to another
video store
than blockbuster, DO IT. I have been to blockbuster
a couple of
times. I actually found "First Spaceship on Venus,"
the one that
takes footage from the excellent Russian movie "Planyeta
Burg" (Planet
of Storms) and puts it into a surprisingly tedious American
movie. I
am sure it got there by accident. They also had "My
Neighbor Totoro."
But when I saw that George Gobel / Mitzi Gaynor movie
in ?!CLASSICS!?
I knew something was terribly wrong.
See if your local library has online access to its catalog.
Most of my
video viewing comes from the library. They have almost
all the
Blondie movies from 1938 to 1949. That sure is funny
how Dagwood
always runs into the mailman.
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Subject: Re: Off-Fucking Time!
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Tue, Feb 18, 2003 11:35 AM
Message-ID: <180220031135586267%stang@subgenius.com>
In article <wkbs1azojx.fsf@globalsurrealism.com>,
talysman
<talysman@globalsurrealism.com> wrote:
>
> and it's all because a bunch of jackasses have
determined that if there
> aren't a hundred thousand potential customers for
a particular product,
> then NO ONE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO SEE IT, EVER.
if it wasn't for people
> like Best Brains, attempting to salvage old movies
(even if it's just to
> laugh at them,) this stuff would be lost forever.
Also, they have devices attached to SubGeniuses by which
They can
monitor our exact spending habits -- that's why any
product we buy more
than twice is automatically taken off the market.
I think they call these implanted devices "credit cards."
>
> on a brighter note, the restored version of Metropolis
is supposed to
> be released on DVD this month. that's one of the
benefits of being THE
> GREATEST SCIENCE FICTION MOVIE EVER: people don't
forget about you.
*I* certainly owe old Fritz Lang an explanation.
>
> I could continue to rant here about the asshole
attitudes of a culture
> that thinks that music, film, and art isn't worthwhile
unless it's the
> most up-to-date, the most "in sync" with
american culture, and having
> the widest mass appeal possible. however, I don't
have the energy to
> vent my bitterness right now. MUCH.
>
>
> http://www.starshipexeter.com/
I'm looking at the trailer now... oh, thank god there
are still fat
chicks in the Future...
Saw the trailer anyway. Good god. These are HARD WORKING
geeks. For the
makers, badfilm are much more work than "real"
movies. And these are
REAL GEEKS. Holy shit.
>
> I mean, sure, these guys are a bunch of STAR TREK
GEEKS in wisconsin,
> and they are pretty poor actors, but they set out
to make their own
> "old trek"-style video and pretty much
hit all the cliches, and even
> did a *better* job on the special effects than
the original trek.
> (except for the purple dinosaur.)
>
> do you know what this means? it means ANYONE can
make '60s tv shows!
> hell, you could do a subgenius tv show, LEAVE IT
TO "BOB", in black
> and white, with the retro-future look, and distribute
it in divx.
Actually we already did that in COLOR and Nightflight
showed it on
cable as "LOVE THAT "BOB"" through
the late 80s.
Our current batch of shorts (including Codini's fake
black and white
old bulldadafilm "Bob"s) are for sale on SubSITE
or free as MPEG
downloads. Almost everybody has gone for the free download
so I'm
about to take that down, as I've been saying for about
6 months now.
>
> or something else entirely. the important part
is: large companies
> have controlled publishing, music, and video/film,
but each of those
> areas are slowly being returned to the masses.
we can entertain each
> other, again! the way we did in the old days! but
with a higher-tech
> look!
I thought that was exactly what we were already doing!
The trick is to get PAID MORE for all this wonderful sharing.
>
> I will have a little more to say about this in
a couple weeks. gotta
> get back to work on my various "projects".
heh heh...
>
Yes.
--
4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath
of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected (Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.)
P.O. Box 181417, Cleveland, OH 44118 (fax 216-320-9528)
A subsidiary of:
The SubGenius Foundation, Inc. / P.O. Box 204206, Austin,
TX 78720-4206
Dobbs-Approved Authorized Commercial Outreach of The
Church of the SubGenius
SubSITE: http://www.subgenius.com
For SubGenius Biz & Orders: call toll free to 1-888-669-2323
or email: jesus@subgenius.com
PRABOB
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Subject: Re: Off-Fucking Time!
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Tue, Feb 18, 2003 11:42 AM
Message-ID: <180220031142168963%stang@subgenius.com>
In article <ece00630.0302171841.5a9df2b0@posting.google.com>,
ignatz
topolino <ridetheory@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > The last four times I was in a video store
I fruitlessly looked
> > for Rocketship XM and Destination Moon. I'll
be got-damned.
>
> Yeesh. I'LL FIND IT FOR YOU!
>
> There. It took me about THIRTY SECONDS on the
interweb to find out
> that the Cleveland Public Library has a copy of
Destination Moon.
>
> http://www.cpl.org/
>
> iggy topo
The LIBRARY?!?!? Isn't that CHEATING?
--
4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath
of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected (Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.)
P.O. Box 181417, Cleveland, OH 44118 (fax 216-320-9528)
A subsidiary of:
The SubGenius Foundation, Inc. / P.O. Box 204206, Austin,
TX 78720-4206
Dobbs-Approved Authorized Commercial Outreach of The
Church of the SubGenius
SubSITE: http://www.subgenius.com
For SubGenius Biz & Orders: call toll free to 1-888-669-2323
or email: jesus@subgenius.com
PRABOB
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Subject: Re: Off-Fucking Time!
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Wed, Feb 19, 2003 9:10 AM
Message-ID: <190220030910181206%stang@subgenius.com>
In article <3E532F6B.2DDBA129@yahooX.com>, nenslo
<nenslo@yahooX.com>
wrote:
> "Rev. Ivan Stang" wrote:
> >
> > In article <ece00630.0302171841.5a9df2b0@posting.google.com>,
ignatz
> > topolino <ridetheory@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > The last four times I was in a video
store I fruitlessly looked
> > > > for Rocketship XM and Destination
Moon. I'll be got-damned.
> > >
> > > Yeesh. I'LL FIND IT FOR YOU!
> > >
> > > There. It took me about THIRTY SECONDS
on the interweb to find out
> > > that the Cleveland Public Library has
a copy of Destination Moon.
> > >
> > > http://www.cpl.org/
> > >
> > > iggy topo
> >
> > The LIBRARY?!?!? Isn't that CHEATING?
> >
>
> It's FREE, you idiot. FREE! You don't have to
PAY FOR IT. It DOESN'T
> COST MONEY.
Did you say... FREE??
--
4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath
of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected (Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.)
P.O. Box 181417, Cleveland, OH 44118 (fax 216-320-9528)
A subsidiary of:
The SubGenius Foundation, Inc. / P.O. Box 204206, Austin,
TX 78720-4206
Dobbs-Approved Authorized Commercial Outreach of The
Church of the SubGenius
SubSITE: http://www.subgenius.com
For SubGenius Biz & Orders: call toll free to 1-888-669-2323
or email: jesus@subgenius.com
PRABOB
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