From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.slack,alt.slack,alt.friday
Date: Mon, Nov 25, 2002 4:38 PM
In article <3DE1CA1B.329A22D6@yahooX.com>, nenslo
<nenslo@yahooX.com>
wrote:
> Friday Jones wrote:
> >
> >
> > At one point Papa Joe Mama was planning a
SubGenius trading card set. See
> > if he's still interested.
> >
>
> Yeah, he and I were going to do it except for the
"deck of cards" problem.
> You know what the problem with the concept of a
deck of cards is? It
> takes one second to think it up and ages of tedious
stupid work to
> actually do it. Just ask stang about the INWO
cards. Decks of cards
> are the sort of thing that only sound like a good
idea. It's
> expensive to do right, it takes a LONG time to
do that many different
> pieces of pasteup and image tinkering even if suitable
artwork already
> existed, and nobody really wants to buy them, especially
not for the
> price you'd have to charge to make it worth anybody's
effort to do it.
> And what dumbass who WANTS a tarot deck doesn't
already have a GOOD
> one and not some fakey-ass made up one with no
uniformity of
> conception and a bunch of lame in-jokes about unknown
personalities.
> Hell, I have THREE tarot decks and I think they're
stupid.
I'm afraid I agree with this post.
Making and printing and boxing such things is a job
for Steve Jackson
Games, and I'm afraid Steve Jackson knows just how many
SubGeniuses
will buy 100 different wonderful cards for $16 -- WITH
a built-in ROLE
PLAYING GAME along with the art.
We did each get paid $13 for each picture, and we still
"sell" the INWO
game but not very fast. One a month maybe.
HOWEVER!!
Let us not forget that Atom Funway created umpteen zillion
actual
SubGenius Art Trading Card images several years ago.
They are in Art Mine Tunnel 11 --
/bigfist/pics2/pics3/funwaycards/
But I have not had a chance to make thumbnails of them
since the site
was moved, and none of the kids who said they were going
to did either,
so they CAN'T BE SEEN!
Well FUCK.
Maybe I should stop waiting for enthusiastic 20 year
olds to stop being
enthusiastic and work.
**** hour and a half later ***
HERE:
http://subgenius.com/bigfist/pics2/pics3/funwaycardsTN/funwaycards.html
http://subgenius.com/bigfist/pics2/pics3/funplasticTN/funplastic.html
http://subgenius.com/bigfist/pics2/pics3/funwayTN/funway.html
I just now thumbnailed and HTMLified all Funway's stuff
from Art Mines
11... I put the new links to the ancient stuff in the
new Art Mines
Tunnel 18 as well, so Funway's classics can be seen
by a whole new
audience.
There are about 10 thousand incrdibly cool LeMur, Poindexter,
IMBJR
etc. early works in there too, but still unlinked. I
will eventually
get to them. Eventually.
Doing that thumbnailing was a symbolic act for me. It
symbolized giving
up on volunteers. Every time somebody has asked if they
could help on
SubSITE I have always said, yeah, you can start with
Art Mines 11 and
12, and I mail them the CD. And then no SubGenius ever
hears from them
again.
So I am tired of being responsible for so many kidnappings,
abductions
and vanishings.
I would have done the other few dozen pages worth of
thumbnailings for
all the other artists whose great shit is stitting there
unseen, but my
fingers are tired and I'm a day late just on the dubbing
of the RERUN
show, much less being able to do anything new.
Anyway... for those wanting a no-work card set -- HERE THEY ARE.
http://subgenius.com/bigfist/pics2/pics3/funwaycardsTN/funwaycards.html
http://subgenius.com/bigfist/pics2/pics3/funplasticTN/funplastic.html
http://subgenius.com/bigfist/pics2/pics3/funwayTN/funway.html
Happy printing and cutting and if you actually do it,
send a set for
Funway. I have an address for him that might well still
be good.
--
4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath
of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected (Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.)
P.O. Box 181417, Cleveland, OH 44118 (fax 216-320-9528)
A subsidiary of:
The SubGenius Foundation, Inc. / P.O. Box 204206, Austin,
TX 78720-4206
Dobbs-Approved Authorized Commercial Outreach of The
Church of the SubGenius
SubSITE: http://www.subgenius.com
For SubGenius Biz & Orders: call toll free to 1-888-669-2323
or email: jesus@subgenius.com
PRABOB
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From: friday@fridayjones.com (Friday Jones)
Probably not enough of a market to do a 'straight' SubGenius
Tarot card
deck. BUT, you could probably do say a Conspiracy Tarot
card deck - with
images of little grey men, the Kennedy assassination,
eyes in pyramids,
golden apples, etc. - that would appeal to conspiracy
buffs.
You put hidden SubGenii symbols throughout the deck,
like the Wings of
Slack on the Texas Tower, and Prairie Squid cavorting
in the background of
The Marriage.
Then you make the SubGenii PAY to appear on the cards.
For example, if I
want to appear as the veiled woman on the Five of Mannlicher-Carcanos,
I
have to cough up, oh, $50 or something. (Let's get
realistic: we can't
milk the Subs for much. Although Rocknar can probably
buy the Hanged-man
ALL FOR HIMSELF).
First though, check the market and see if there's already
a UFO or
Conspiracy Tarot, and give it a gander.
--
In a year holding a three, or seven,
or five, or nine, or maybe not,
Two things, might be people, or armies,
or buildings,
Or anything really, blades of grass,
or stoats, or crapulous charlatans
spouting mimsy,
Might do something nebulous.
Insert made-up-bit here.
- Generic Nostradamus Quatrain from
"The Guardian"
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From: nenslo <nenslo@yahooX.com>
Friday Jones wrote:
>
> Probably not enough of a market to do a 'straight'
SubGenius Tarot card
> deck. BUT, you could probably do say a Conspiracy
Tarot card deck - with
> images of little grey men, the Kennedy assassination,
eyes in pyramids,
> golden apples, etc. - that would appeal to conspiracy
buffs.
>
There are already hundreds of different Tarot decks,
pseudo-tarot
decks semi-tarot decks and things which serve the function
of tarot
decks. I have four or five of the latter two varieties.
FOR GOD
SAKES WHY WASTE TIME DOING THE SAME DUMBASS CRAP ANY
NEWAGY WE-MOON
SAND-WORSHIPPING SEDONA-DWELLER CAN DO BETTER BECAUSE
THEY ARE *LESS*
IMAGINATIVE THAN A SUBGENIUS? WHY WHY WHY? Can't any
of you come up
with even one idea that is not stupid and lame? I know
you are not
all complete idiots, SO COME ON.
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From: "nu-monet v5.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>
nenslo wrote:
>
> There are already hundreds of different Tarot
> decks, pseudo-tarot decks semi-tarot decks and
> things which serve the function of tarot decks.
> I have four or five of the latter two varieties.
> FOR GOD SAKES WHY WASTE TIME DOING THE SAME
> DUMBASS CRAP ANY NEWAGY WE-MOON SAND-WORSHIPPING
> SEDONA-DWELLER CAN DO BETTER BECAUSE THEY ARE *LESS*
> IMAGINATIVE THAN A SUBGENIUS? WHY WHY WHY? Can't
> any of you come up with even one idea that is not
> stupid and lame? I know you are not all complete
> idiots, SO COME ON.
(sigh) Well, there is *one* way. But it is the path
of the damned.
If someone cranks out something utterly cute and
saccharine, totally unthreatening and sickly sweet
beyond vomitus. "Angel Cards" mixed with
"Strawberry
Shortcake" and "My Little Pony" and a
thousand other
pastel cutenesses. No SubGenius references whatsoever.
No irony. No humor. No wit.
And expensive as a motherfucker.
Then sell them and give the money to the Church.
Nobody ever went broke underestimating taste.
--
"YOU BELONG TO US NOW!"
"GET DOWN WITH MY SICKNESS!!"
--Kino Beman, brand name
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From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Hey, I came up with something... I am gonna tell it
to you, and, man,
you can just HAVE it, I mean, I don't even WANT royalties
from it...
unless you, you know, get rich off it... but here it
is... okay now,
get ready... you can use this:
"Bob Damn It!"
How about THAT, man?
Yeah man. Hey. Did you know "Bob" spelled
backwards... IS STILL
BOB?!?!? Oh. You heard that one already.
(*from ten thousand real life conversations that take
place after
devivals at the sales table)
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From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Look. Why don't ya'll just do it the REAL REAL SIMPLE WAY:
1. GET A JOB
2. Give the money to the Church.
NOW I think we have whittled this great Tarot Card Money-for-the-Church
idea down to its most elemental.
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From: "nu-monet v5.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>
Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
> 1. GET A JOB
>
> 2. Give the money to the Church.
>
I think the answer to that might be summed up by
noting that "Quit your job and Slack off",
as far
as most SubGenii are concerned, is less a directive
than a statement of fact. That is, they are as
incapable of retaining gainful employment as they
are of foregoing masturbation for any length of
time.
Now, where were we in the current "get rich quick"
scheme?
--
"It's like the Roman Empire. Wasn't everybody
running around just covered with syphilis?
And then it was destroyed by the volcano."
--Joan Collins
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From: missmodular@attbi.com
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 01:17:02 -0800, nenslo <nenslo@yahooX.com> wrote:
>missmodular@attbi.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Nenslo is my role model and hero!! If there
wasn't a Missus nelso I'd
>> seduce him in a subgenius second!
>>
>
>You would not. I had a ten year stretch of perfect
celibacy going
>before Mrs. Nenslo came along.
Would too!!! Having met you in person I know I would.
Peaches
--
Rev Mama Peaches Freestone
Sad Eyed Sisters of Queen Anne
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From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
In article <newscache$ijv66h$b0i$1@bartleby.maths.monash.edu.au>,
nikolai kingsley <nikolai@broadway.net.au> wrote:
> > You misspelled "Stupid Bullshit."
>
>
>
> this is an area which can be a bit confusing, if
you've ever bought into the
> whole postmodernism/appropriation thing at all.
i can read an interview
> with, say, Blixa Bargeld and end up with a half-way
decent idea of what he
> was talking about. Arthur Kroker, well, the text
seems to be swimming in
> neologisms. Sandy Stone, and i can't see the bottom
of the pool, so to
> speak. when i read the interviews with Sordide
Sentimentale in that ReSearch
> book on Industrial Culture, i thought they were
joking, making it up as they
> went along, you know, kind of like, uh, media jamming!
yeah.
>
> nikolai
> ---
> or as we call it down here, "bullshitting"
>
When monkeys do it, it's called "signifying" or "jacking off."
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From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
>
> I think the answer to that might be summed up by
> noting that "Quit your job and Slack off",
as far
> as most SubGenii are concerned, is less a directive
> than a statement of fact. That is, they are as
> incapable of retaining gainful employment as they
> are of foregoing masturbation for any length of
> time.
I know; that's why I say "GET A JOB" strictly
out of sarcasm, albeit
with a kind of wistfulness. As if we COULD get jobs.
>
> Now, where were we in the current "get rich
quick"
> scheme?
Ours was the busiest Cafe Press site in that "sector"
of the country!
Whatever "sector" means. That was before we
added all that great new
stuff, too. "Sector" might mean north Austin
and by now it might be
the most avoided.
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From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Nenslo is my role model and hero!! If
there wasn't a Missus nelso I'd
> >> seduce him in a subgenius second!
> >>
He's not that good. Just lays there and lets you fuck
him. It's kind of
gross actually, the passivity. You keep wanting him
to flail and fight
back, but he won't give you the satisfaction. Eeeuch.
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From: Legume <no-email@fuckthespammers.com>
"Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
wrote in
news:261120021348505028%stang@subgenius.com:
> He's not that good. Just lays there and lets you
fuck him. It's kind
> of gross actually, the passivity. You keep wanting
him to flail and
> fight back, but he won't give you the satisfaction.
Eeeuch.
Well, if that's the case, I won't bother waiting until
he's dead.
--
Legume
----------
"I have been thinking about sitting down with Crazy
Acid Burnout Man and
having a serious talk with him." - Ivan Stang
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From: Her Ladyship Lilith von Fraumench <lilith@ZubJenius.com>
In article <3DE33B56.9883D6CE@yahooX.com>, nenslo
<nenslo@yahooX.com>
wrote:
> There are already hundreds of different Tarot decks,
pseudo-tarot
> decks semi-tarot decks and things which serve the
function of tarot
> decks. I have four or five of the latter two varieties.
FOR GOD
> SAKES WHY WASTE TIME DOING THE SAME DUMBASS CRAP
ANY NEWAGY WE-MOON
> SAND-WORSHIPPING SEDONA-DWELLER CAN DO BETTER BECAUSE
THEY ARE *LESS*
> IMAGINATIVE THAN A SUBGENIUS? WHY WHY WHY? Can't
any of you come up
> with even one idea that is not stupid and lame?
I know you are not
> all complete idiots, SO COME ON.
How about a tarot deck printed on the skins of people
who think making
a tarot deck is a good idea?
See, this idea of mine is a BAD idea, by definition. I WIN.
Her Ladyship Lilith
--
--=8=-- \m/ --=8=-- http://lilith.foolspress.com/
--=8=-- \m/ --=8=--
"Yes that's what I said. Unassailable
Rectitude."
-- Nenslo, <3DD9F783.BEDE1DC@yahooX.com>
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