From: Joe Cosby <joecosby@SPAMBLOCKmindspring.com>
Date: Tue, Apr 13, 2004 2:19 AM
email@example.com (you) wrote:
>as opposed to you, ...a REAL troll making pathetic attempts to
>antagonise everybody? this is troll central. the reason y'all are
>here is cause you think you're smarter than everyone, and feel heaping
>abuse on people proves your superiority.
Well that's a tired but not illogical guess.
What I really come to usenet for and always have is
those few rare
moments of inspiration. Really, if you really want to know what
you're talking about just search the Google usenet archives on my name
and keep going further and further back. The further back you go the
more you get to where I started, genuinely believing that usenet, as a
completely open communication medium could serve the purpose of
allowing the few rare good ideas to propagate and take hold of people
and lead to powerful grassroots movements that existed not because the
Right political/social/artistic/whatever group backed them nor because
they had the Right advertising campaign but simply because they were
GOOD IDEAS, and people, in the end, do recognize good ideas as good
ideas and worth propagating.
Why not? The printing press had a similar effect, not
because of some
intrinsic moral value of slapping ink on paper but simply because it
made it easier to propagate good ideas and good ideas take root.
At first I was interested in a fairly specific topic
which is now long
since dead, and I gave up on that anyway. Then for a good couple of
years (or a bad couple of years, depending how you look at it) I
thought I would do better in the realm of pure idea, pure change, the
However you slice it I really did try to find those
people who were
genuinely inspired and I tried to inspire.
The real hell of it is, I didn't fail. I found what
I was looking
for. I found ideas that spark flames when exposed to oxygen purely
due to their intense catalytic power. I found people whose ideas were
capable of shaking the earth. I came into it believing that in any
generation where history records maybe 2 or 3 seminal thinkers, there
are dozens or hundreds who we never hear about but who are not only as
significant, but are vastly more significant in their thoughts and
ideas but doomed to be forgotten because the social avenues by which
ideas are preserved are controlled by those whose interests are served
by mediocrity and trivialization.
And I found, as I had hoped, that a significant number
of people were
infected by good ideas for the sake of good ideas, and that in this
electronic medium the forces of change could take hold and take on a
life of their own.
But I completely failed to anticipate how really powerful
of the dull and mediocre are. At how much of a MAJORITY they
It had never occurred to me HOW MANY people there are
whose lives are
dedicated, quite literally, to nothing but the battle to ensure that
what is mediocre and stupid prevails and what is valuable and
interesting is crushed.
If that sounds melodramatic, you either haven't been
on usenet long
enough, or you haven't thought about what you've seen here.
Inevitably, any really great moment I've seen on usenet
shouted out by:
- First, an individual, usually somebody in a position
authority in their own life, who spends all their time on usenet doing
nothing but find people trying to express something inspiring or noble
and fighting to break them down.
Really, if you watch usenet at all, you will find the
talking about there. If you follow any group for any length of time,
you have seen somebody like this on it.
This person is absolutely solid granite when it comes
to ensuring that
EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO SO MUCH AS GLANCES AT THAT NEWSGROUP
RECOGNIZES AND APPRECIATES THEIR POSITION OF SUPERIORITY ON IT.
And second, that person is easily identified in that
rock-solid proofs of their own UNSHAKEABLE RECTITUDE, they do
absolutely nothing but attack others for having the temerity to have
ANY OPINION AT ALL.
- Second, a bleating group of pathetic sheep who trail
nipping at the heels of any interloper who might have inspired the
It doesn't matter what kind of group it is. You will
the same recipe on every usenet newsgroup. Computer operating
systems. Programming languages. Politics. Religion. Art. Science.
You can follow any newsgroup for enough time and apply
the above to
them with the precision of a measuring stick.
So, maybe you're right. Maybe I spend too much time
attacking those I
see as part of the forces of the self-inflicted stupidity which seems
to be humanity's choice. I think though that I usually succeed, most
of the time at least, in attacking exactly those kinds of idiots who
ensure that usenet is never capable of anything but being the toilet
stall wall of humanity. Those who stand for stupidity for stupidity's
Not even STUPIDITY, because I don't really have anything
somebody for being STUPID. We all have areas where we are fucking
But it's those who are sincerely fighting for their
own stupidity as
if it were the rightful limit of everybody else.
Those who are ANGERED when somebody transgresses their
of sacred beliefs, when anybody questions the ABSOLUTE RIGHTNESS of
their Side which represents Truth.
It represents a whole social class of humanity; those
that RIGHTNESS is dependant on a kind of ordainment. Like the college
professor who is infuriated at a student challenging his opinion on
history or philosophy or politics. Not angered because the student is
rude or unreasonable, but because the STUDENT has the TEMERITY to
question a PROFESSOR.
And maybe to some extent alt.slack is a nest of trolls.
To be honest
though, from what I've seen the "trolling" done from alt.slack is
aimed at exactly that kind of BOARD-CERTIFIED FUCKING IDIOT; and I
would like to think I limit my own attacks on them.
Nobody's perfect. I don't doubt sometimes I flame the
shit out of
somebody simply because I can.
The thing is though, it isn't a question of whether
that's right or
wrong, to me. It just isn't FUNNY.
The only time a flame fest is really funny is when somebody
completely WRONG to even the most casual examination and so completely
CERTAIN that they are right because of WHO THEY ARE OR WHAT SIDE
And in those cases, the longer they fight, the funnier it gets.
Imagine that you have a college chemistry professor.
And you set fire
to him, literally. His clothes are on fire.
And he is ARGUING until he's RED IN THE FACE that it's
POSSIBLE to catch rayon on fire.
Maybe some part of most people would want to just grab
extinguisher and put it out.
And I suppose there is some limit where watching a human
being burn to
death alive is just not funny anymore.
But how long? How long can he keep arguing and arguing,
louder, more and more ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN of his rightness while his
clothes are crackling up around his ears before it stops being funny?
For my money, quite a while.
> i hate to break it to y'all,
>but, the shit you fling doesn't stick.
>here, have a banana, you.
>thanks, don't mind if you do.
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