GOP representative wants to bury all GAY books

Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 19:37:25 GMT

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A bill by Rep. Gerald Allen, R-Cottondale, would prohibit the use of
public funds for "the purchase of textbooks or library materials that
recognize or promote homosexuality as an acceptable lifestyle." Allen
said he filed the bill to protect children from the "homosexual agenda."

Allen said that if his bill passes, novels with gay protagonists and
college textbooks that suggest homosexuality is natural would have to be
removed from library shelves and destroyed.

"I guess we dig a big hole and dump them in and bury them," he said.

http://tinyurl.com/4pqq5

When you talk about burning books, people tend to get a little squeamish
-- and rightfully so. Burying them works just as well without conjuring
up all those nasty mental associations with Fahrenheit 451 and the Nazis.

Never mind that "Sisters," the lesbian romance written by the Vice
President's wife, would almost certainly qualify for burial. (Copies of
"Sisters" have all been bought up -- they go for $500 a whack on eBay
and Amazon -- and the publisher is forbidden from reissuing it.)


Correspondent:: Zapanaz
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 12:47:25 -0800

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On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 19:37:25 GMT, Cardinal Vertigo
wrote:

>A bill by Rep. Gerald Allen, R-Cottondale, would prohibit the use of
>public funds for "the purchase of textbooks or library materials that
>recognize or promote homosexuality as an acceptable lifestyle." Allen
>said he filed the bill to protect children from the "homosexual agenda."
>
>Allen said that if his bill passes, novels with gay protagonists and
>college textbooks that suggest homosexuality is natural would have to be
>removed from library shelves and destroyed.
>
>"I guess we dig a big hole and dump them in and bury them," he said.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/4pqq5
>
>When you talk about burning books, people tend to get a little squeamish
>-- and rightfully so. Burying them works just as well without conjuring
>up all those nasty mental associations with Fahrenheit 451 and the Nazis.
>
>Never mind that "Sisters," the lesbian romance written by the Vice
>President's wife, would almost certainly qualify for burial. (Copies of
>"Sisters" have all been bought up -- they go for $500 a whack on eBay
>and Amazon -- and the publisher is forbidden from reissuing it.)

Well I just had to:

"Representative Gerald Allen was elected in 1994. He was born on
February 8, 1950, and received B.S. Degree in Education from the
University of Alabama. He and his wife, Sheila, are the parents of
three children: Wes, Kellie, and Jill. Representative Allen serves as
owner of CASHCO Marketing and is a Deacon for Gilgal Baptist Church."

http://www.legislature.state.al.us/house/representatives/housebios/hd062.html

But they aren't ALL like that.



What really kills me about the original article is that out of all the
people arguing against it, not one of them even suggested that maybe
the basic PREMISE, being opposed to homosexuality as an "assault on
our culture", is fucked up.

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Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 21:29:48 GMT

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Zapanaz wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 19:37:25 GMT, Cardinal Vertigo
> wrote:
>
>>A bill by Rep. Gerald Allen, R-Cottondale, would prohibit the use of
>>public funds for "the purchase of textbooks or library materials that
>>recognize or promote homosexuality as an acceptable lifestyle." Allen
>>said he filed the bill to protect children from the "homosexual agenda."
>>
>>Allen said that if his bill passes, novels with gay protagonists and
>>college textbooks that suggest homosexuality is natural would have to be
>>removed from library shelves and destroyed.
>>
>>"I guess we dig a big hole and dump them in and bury them," he said.
>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/4pqq5
>>
>>When you talk about burning books, people tend to get a little squeamish
>>-- and rightfully so. Burying them works just as well without conjuring
>>up all those nasty mental associations with Fahrenheit 451 and the Nazis.
>>
>>Never mind that "Sisters," the lesbian romance written by the Vice
>>President's wife, would almost certainly qualify for burial. (Copies of
>>"Sisters" have all been bought up -- they go for $500 a whack on eBay
>>and Amazon -- and the publisher is forbidden from reissuing it.)
>
> Well I just had to:
>
> "Representative Gerald Allen was elected in 1994. He was born on
> February 8, 1950, and received B.S. Degree in Education from the
> University of Alabama. He and his wife, Sheila, are the parents of
> three children: Wes, Kellie, and Jill. Representative Allen serves as
> owner of CASHCO Marketing and is a Deacon for Gilgal Baptist Church."
>
> http://www.legislature.state.al.us/house/representatives/housebios/hd062.html
>
> But they aren't ALL like that.

C'mon, Joe. Gilgal Baptist, as in Southern Baptist, as in fundamentalist.

> What really kills me about the original article is that out of all the
> people arguing against it, not one of them even suggested that maybe
> the basic PREMISE, being opposed to homosexuality as an "assault on
> our culture", is fucked up.

I agree.


Correspondent:: Zapanaz
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 14:24:04 -0800

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On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 21:29:48 GMT, Cardinal Vertigo
wrote:

>C'mon, Joe. Gilgal Baptist, as in Southern Baptist, as in fundamentalist.

So protestants are fundamentalists and southern baptists are
fundamentalists?

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Correspondent:: kthulhu23@aol.com (Kthulhu23)
Date: 02 Dec 2004 23:21:45 GMT

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<<<< So protestants are fundamentalists and southern baptists are
fundamentalists? >>

You're kiddin', right?

The lesbian Methodist ain't a fundy, dude.

Should we design an easy-to-understand Venn diagram?



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(for christ)



Correspondent:: Zapanaz
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 16:01:56 -0800

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On 02 Dec 2004 23:21:45 GMT, kthulhu23@aol.com (Kthulhu23) wrote:

><<<< So protestants are fundamentalists and southern baptists are
>fundamentalists? >>
>
>You're kiddin', right?
>
>The lesbian Methodist ain't a fundy, dude.
>
>Should we design an easy-to-understand Venn diagram?

I think most Christians are conservatives, like the book-burnin'
senator. First it was "no, only FUNDAMENTALISTS are the bad ones, but
they are a small minority". Then Protestants got added to the group
"fundamentalists". Now Southern Baptists are added to the group
"fundamentalists". I am just wondering, once we add all the groups
that we KNOW are fundamentalists to the fundamentalist group, how many
Christians there will actually be left.

Prolly the Lesbian Methodist coalition will still be on the side of
Good; noted. I doubt they constitute a majority of Christians tho.


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wake up, but it's still surreal.



Correspondent:: Zapanaz
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 16:18:55 -0800

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On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 16:01:56 -0800, Zapanaz
wrote:

>I think most Christians are conservatives

well just for anybody following along in our studio audience at home,
that was only a fraction of my original point, but I didn't want to
retype the whole thing.

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David Lynch:

"I sort of go by a duck when I work on a film because if you study a duck, you'll see
certain things. You'll see a bill, and the bill is a certain texture and a certain length.
Then you'll see a head, and the features on the head are a certain texture and it's
a certain shape and it goes into the neck. The texture of the bill for instance is very
smooth and it has quite precise detail in it and it reminds you somewhat of the legs.
The legs are a little bit bigger and a little more rubbery but it's enough so that your
eye goes back and forth. Now, the body being so big, it can be softer and the texture
is not so detailed, it's just kind of a cloud. And the key to the whole duck is the eye and
where the eye is placed. And it has to be placed in the head and it's the most detailed,
and it's like a little jewel. And if it was fixed, sitting on the bill, it would be two things that
were too busy, battling, they would not do so well. And if it was sitting in the middle of the body,
it would get lost. But it's so perfectly placed to show off a jewel right in the middle of the head like that,
next to this S-curve with the bill sitting out in front, but with enough distance so that the eye is very very
very well secluded and set out. So when you're working on a film, a lot of times you can get the bill and
the legs and the body and everything, but this eye of the duck is a certain scene, this jewel, that if it's
there, it's absolutely beautiful. It's just fantastic." "Film exists because we can go and have experiences
that would be pretty dangerous or strange for us in real life. We can go into a room and walk
into a dream. If we didn't want to upset anyone, we would make films about sewing, but
even that could be dangerous. But I think finally, in a film, it is how the balance is and
the feelings are. But I think there has to be those contrasts and strong things withing a
film for the total experience."




Correspondent:: "Anachron"
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 03:11:43 GMT

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"Zapanaz" wrote in message
news:g1bvq0h9c9f96nlg3s2v7fjkslhrdpkpir@4ax.com...
> On 02 Dec 2004 23:21:45 GMT, kthulhu23@aol.com (Kthulhu23) wrote:

> I think most Christians are conservatives, like the book-burnin'
> senator. First it was "no, only FUNDAMENTALISTS are the bad ones, but
> they are a small minority". Then Protestants got added to the group
> "fundamentalists". Now Southern Baptists are added to the group
> "fundamentalists". I am just wondering, once we add all the groups
> that we KNOW are fundamentalists to the fundamentalist group, how many
> Christians there will actually be left.
>
> Prolly the Lesbian Methodist coalition will still be on the side of
> Good; noted. I doubt they constitute a majority of Christians tho.

This is a the fault of those pussy 'ooo we can't afford the cold war
anymore' Russians . America needs an enemy and Al Quida just don't cut it.
So we have to look closer to home to find someone to blame for our problems.

These people all suffer from White Trash Syndrome i.e.. I'm a dumb fuck,
who has all sorts of evil sexual desires but if I keep pointing my finger at
someone else maybe no one will notice.

Preachers are pushers who create a market for their 'services' by dealing in
White Trash Syndrome.
1. Get 'em hooked by making them feel guilty for a natural desire.
2. Tell them the have the cure for their 'disease'
3. collect the money!
--
Rev. Anachron




Correspondent:: kthulhu23@aol.com (Kthulhu23)
Date: 03 Dec 2004 16:24:37 GMT

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<< This is a the fault of those pussy 'ooo we can't afford the cold war
anymore' Russians . >>

Hey, how about those Ukrainian elections?



Correspondent:: rhymeswith@starmail.com (C. Woolard)
Date: 4 Dec 2004 12:16:31 -0800

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kthulhu23@aol.com (Kthulhu23) wrote in message news:<20041203112437.14349.00001261@mb-m13.aol.com>...
> << This is a the fault of those pussy 'ooo we can't afford the cold war
> anymore' Russians . >>
>
> Hey, how about those Ukrainian elections?

The Ukrainian Supreme Court said, "Nope, that one didn't work. Hold a new election."

If I could learn Russian without my head exploding, I'd consider moving to Kiev.

--
C.


Correspondent:: "Revi Shankar"
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 18:15:15 -0500

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> Well I just had to:
>
> "Representative Gerald Allen was elected in 1994. He was born on
> February 8, 1950, and received B.S. Degree in Education from the
> University of Alabama. He and his wife, Sheila, are the parents of
> three children: Wes, Kellie, and Jill. Representative Allen serves as
> owner of CASHCO Marketing and is a Deacon for Gilgal Baptist Church."
>
>
http://www.legislature.state.al.us/house/representatives/housebios/hd062.htm
l
>
> But they aren't ALL like that.
>


Now playing on a.b.s. : Zappa's "moving towards fascist theocracy"
interview.






Correspondent:: kthulhu23@aol.com (Kthulhu23)
Date: 02 Dec 2004 23:38:20 GMT

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<< Now playing on a.b.s. . . >>

Jeez, don't let Gail find out.



Correspondent:: Zapanaz
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 16:15:00 -0800

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On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 18:15:15 -0500, "Revi Shankar"
wrote:

>Now playing on a.b.s. : Zappa's "moving towards fascist theocracy"
>interview.

kinda sounds like verbal usenet, doesn't it?

It always makes my teeth grind listening to somebody like Zappa being
completely coherent and making total sense then listening to these old
fucking lifetime political fossils sniping a bunch of completely
meaningless bullshit at him and thinking they have made some kind of
point.


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be on the road an hour.
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Correspondent:: nikolai kingsley
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 11:59:44 +1100

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> When you talk about burning books, people tend to get a little squeamish
> -- and rightfully so. Burying them works just as well without conjuring
> up all those nasty mental associations with Fahrenheit 451 and the Nazis.



and once they've been buried, Homer Simpson can drive to the dump, dig
them up and conceal them inside bowling balls for resale at Moe's Gay
Pr0n Bookshop.


Correspondent:: Unclaimed Mysteries
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 02:05:10 GMT

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nikolai kingsley wrote:

>
>> When you talk about burning books, people tend to get a little squeamish
>> -- and rightfully so. Burying them works just as well without conjuring
>> up all those nasty mental associations with Fahrenheit 451 and the Nazis.
>
>
>
>
> and once they've been buried, Homer Simpson can drive to the dump, dig
> them up and conceal them inside bowling balls for resale at Moe's Gay
> Pr0n Bookshop.

"Your ideas intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter."

--
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http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net



Correspondent:: kthulhu23@aol.com (Kthulhu23)
Date: 03 Dec 2004 20:35:58 GMT

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<< Fundamentalism is a wacked-out subset of Protestantism, which is a subset of
Christianity. >>

Any religious zealot can be a fundamentalist:
Jewish, Christian, Buddhist, Muslamic, SubGenius
et al.

Visualize this Venn diagram:

Big circle representing fundamentalists. Smaller circles intersecting the big
one at the perimeter
to varying degrees: these are various religions,
cults and sects. A few circles entirely within the
big one: Sharia Muslam, the 700 club, orthodox
Jews. A few circles outside of the big one entirely:
SubGenii, Neotechies, Unitarian Universalists and
the like.



Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 21:09:19 GMT

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Kthulhu23 wrote:
> << Fundamentalism is a wacked-out subset of Protestantism, which is a subset of
> Christianity. >>
>
> Any religious zealot can be a fundamentalist:
> Jewish, Christian, Buddhist, Muslamic, SubGenius
> et al.
>
> Visualize this Venn diagram:
>
> Big circle representing fundamentalists. Smaller circles intersecting the big
> one at the perimeter
> to varying degrees: these are various religions,
> cults and sects. A few circles entirely within the
> big one: Sharia Muslam, the 700 club, orthodox
> Jews. A few circles outside of the big one entirely:
> SubGenii, Neotechies, Unitarian Universalists and
> the like.

Exactly.

When I said "fundamentalism" I meant "fundamentalism" as it is generally
misused, meaning "fundamentalist Christianity."


Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 23:19:08 GMT

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Cardinal Vertigo wrote:

> Kthulhu23 wrote:
> > << Fundamentalism is a wacked-out subset of Protestantism, which is a subset of
> > Christianity. >>
> >
> > Any religious zealot can be a fundamentalist:
> > Jewish, Christian, Buddhist, Muslamic, SubGenius
> > et al.
> >
> > Visualize this Venn diagram:
> >
> > Big circle representing fundamentalists. Smaller circles intersecting the big
> > one at the perimeter
> > to varying degrees: these are various religions,
> > cults and sects. A few circles entirely within the
> > big one: Sharia Muslam, the 700 club, orthodox
> > Jews. A few circles outside of the big one entirely:
> > SubGenii, Neotechies, Unitarian Universalists and
> > the like.
>
> Exactly.
>
> When I said "fundamentalism" I meant "fundamentalism" as it is generally
> misused, meaning "fundamentalist Christianity."

Here's some stuff on the nature of the beast:
http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/fund.html



Correspondent:: phy
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 00:07:12 -0000

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Cardinal Vertigo wrote in
news:V9Krd.2344$iV2.445@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com:

That is about as smart as those congregations who bought up all the Harry
Potter books they could find so they could burn them. Think of the money
Rowlings made off that stupid move.

-phy