Lousiest PKD movie?

Correspondent:: nenslo
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:37:45 -0800

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Is Paycheck worse than Screamers? Because if it is I don't want to see
it. Gotta give Peter Weller credit though, he gives his all no matter
how crappy the dialogue and set decoration. He's no John Carradine, but
he tries.


Correspondent:: asscoassc@aol.comSHUTUP (AssCo Assc)
Date: 13 Dec 2004 00:48:04 GMT

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No, Paycheck wasn't too bad.

Certainly not a Screamers; much closer
to a Minority Report.

PS: If you like Dick you may be gay.
---
Same old rules: no eyes, no groin.

ooOOoo

It petrifies the tongue. . .
Shoots arrows through the lung. . .
Guttural rending pain . . .
. . . and next it Sclerotifies the brain
-- Copyright 2004 Ilya Shambat


Correspondent:: Zapanaz
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 17:21:34 -0800

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On 13 Dec 2004 00:48:04 GMT, asscoassc@aol.comSHUTUP (AssCo Assc)
wrote:

>No, Paycheck wasn't too bad.
>

I agree with that, I expected Paycheck to be very bad based on online
ratings and reviews, but I didn't think it was terribly bad. I liked
it better than the other one, butterfly effect. Why is it, exactly,
that when one hollywood movie comes out on theme X there are always a
half-dozen with exactly the same theme at exactly the same time? I
suppose the obvious answer is that they rip each other off, but like
with these two they were released at almost exactly the same time, so
they must have overlapped each other in production.

Despite Ben Affleck, who is also not John Carradine, I thought
Paycheck worked pretty well. There was a lot which was cornball in
it, it wasn't a stunning success to me, but it carried enough of
Dick's story through to carry it.

My vote for worst PKD story on screen is that one with keanu reeves in
it.

>Certainly not a Screamers; much closer
>to a Minority Report.
>
>PS: If you like Dick you may be gay.

--
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International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
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>How will you prove god's non-existence?
That's shifting the burden. How will YOU prove his EXISTENCE?

- The atheist versus non-atheist debate in a nutshell.



Correspondent:: asscoassc@aol.comSHUTUP (AssCo Assc)
Date: 13 Dec 2004 04:15:11 GMT

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<< My vote for worst PKD story
on screen is that one with keanu reeves in
it. >>

The one Richard Linklatter is working on?

Is that out?



---
Same old rules: no eyes, no groin.

ooOOoo

It petrifies the tongue. . .
Shoots arrows through the lung. . .
Guttural rending pain . . .
. . . and next it Sclerotifies the brain
-- Copyright 2004 Ilya Shambat


Correspondent:: nenslo
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 22:19:32 -0800

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AssCo Assc wrote:
>
> No, Paycheck wasn't too bad.
>
> Certainly not a Screamers; much closer
> to a Minority Report.
>

So... tedious and irrelevant chase scenes and egregious product
placement instead of doltish dialogue and cheezy props. Mrs. N opined
that the only reason Screamers existed was because they wanted to do
that scene of machine gunning and napalming and nuking that mob of
children. Strangely, she seemed to like MR, while I did not. The
gimmicky stuff (which Ebert stupidly calls "virtuoso filmmaking") just
made me bored and the fullscreen ads for pepsi products sickened me.

> PS: If you like Dick you may be gay.

I may be gay, but at least I appreciate the fact that he created
entirely new characters and situations in every story, instead of
inventing eight characters and writing twelve two-inch-thick novels
about them the way they do nowadays.


Correspondent:: asscoassc@aol.comBLOWME (AssCo Assc)
Date: 13 Dec 2004 14:37:19 GMT

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<< Strangely, she seemed to like MR, while I did not. >>

See? You floccinaucinihilipilificate too much.

< entirely new characters and situations in every story, instead of
inventing eight characters and writing twelve two-inch-thick novels
about them the way they do nowadays.>>

I have no idea what you're referring to. The only
two inch thick novel I've tried recently is the new
Tom Wolfe. I'm not doing particularly well with it.

-----

FLOCCINAUCINIHILIPILIFICATION
The action or habit of judging something to be worthless.

Back in the eighteenth century, Eton College had a grammar
book which listed a set of words from Latin which all meant
“of little or no value”. In order, those were flocci, nauci,
nihili, and pili. . . flocci is derived from floccus, literally a
tuft of wool. . . ; pili is likewise the plural of pilus, a hair,
which we have inherited in words like depilatory, but which
in Latin could meant a whit, jot, trifle or generally something insignificant;
nihili is from nihil, nothing,

http://www.worldwidewords.org/weirdwords/ww-flo2.htm

ooOOoo

It petrifies the tongue. . .
Shoots arrows through the lung. . .
Guttural rending pain . . .
. . . and next it Sclerotifies the brain
-- Copyright 2004 Ilya Shambat


Correspondent:: nenslo
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:46:49 -0800

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AssCo Assc wrote:
>
> << Strangely, she seemed to like MR, while I did not. >>
>
> See? You floccinaucinihilipilificate too much.

According to your definition below, you are clearly and obviously in
error. I said only that I did not like it, not even that I DISliked it,
only DID NOT like it. Solely a lack of positive feeling for it. That
does not refer to the value of the object, only my opinion of it.
Since I am aware that opinions are variable, I always keep in mind that
someone else may value something for which I feel only a lack of like,
or even active dislike or outright hatred. We each have a right to
their own opinions, but we do not have a right to misrepresent the
opinions of others as value judgements. I have a tendency, which some
folks find quite irritating, to say exactly what I mean, and even worse,
to KNOW what I meant when I said it. So you folks that just make stuff
up and say that's what I said or meant are just poop out of luck. I do
not, in fact, gibbertywhatsis AT ALL, EVER.

> FLOCCINAUCINIHILIPILIFICATION
> The action or habit of judging something to be worthless.


Correspondent:: HellPope Huey
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 17:38:14 GMT

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In article <41BE9A69.38495CF8@yahoox.com>, nenslo
wrote:

> According to your definition below, you are clearly and obviously in
> error. I said only that I did not like it, not even that I DISliked it,
> only DID NOT like it. Solely a lack of positive feeling for it. That
> does not refer to the value of the object, only my opinion of it.
> Since I am aware that opinions are variable, I always keep in mind that
> someone else may value something for which I feel only a lack of like,
> or even active dislike or outright hatred. We each have a right to
> their own opinions, but we do not have a right to misrepresent the
> opinions of others as value judgements.

Right, that works around here just fine. Most SubGeeners say "FUCK!"
more times before breakfast than the Lames do all WEEK. Do what thou
wilt, yada yada.

> I have a tendency, which some
> folks find quite irritating, to say exactly what I mean, and even worse,
> to KNOW what I meant when I said it.

I only found it irritating that you kept farting mummy dust on the
buffet.

> So you folks that just make stuff
> up and say that's what I said or meant are just poop out of luck. I do
> not, in fact, gibbertywhatsis AT ALL, EVER.

Well, whatever you call that thing you do, you should record it and
we'll sell it in a line of Dobbs Revenge Clocks. It goes off at 5 a.m.
every morning with a series of Nensloid excoriations about your personal
shortcomings and once you set it somewhere, you can't get it to come
off, nor can you destroy the clock. Its made of Connium and withstands
everything, so far. You have to throw away the furniture it occupies.
Pretty damned funny... Nenslo can't be here to berate you personally,
but he sends his sample data. GET UP, DUMBASS!!

--

HellPope Huey
Everyone put your left shoe in this bag
or the kid here GETS it

I was brought up in that other service;
but I knew from the first that the Devil
was my natural master and captain and friend.
I saw that he was in the right
and that the world cringed to his conqueror only from fear.
- George Bernard Shaw, "The Devil's Disciple"

God does not play dice with the universe;
He plays an ineffable game of his own devising,
which might be compared,
from the perspective of any of the other players,
to being involved in an obscure and complex version of poker
in a pitch dark room, with blank cards, for infinite stakes,
with a dealer who won't tell you the rules
and who smiles all the time.
- Gaiman and Pratchett's "Good Omens"


Correspondent:: bobdiddley@aol.com (Dr Nerdwell Woznotski)
Date: 15 Dec 2004 00:55:25 GMT

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nenslo said this:
>I have a tendency, which some
>folks find quite irritating, to say exactly what I mean, and even worse,
>to KNOW what I meant when I said it.

This is why I read alt.slack


=========================================================
In May of 1949, Les Paul (yes, THAT Les Paul) presented his project of
multitrack recording. In my estimation, this ushered in the age of Virtual
Reality.



Correspondent:: Bob Dionysus the Builder
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:52:41 +0100

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AssCo Assc wrote:
> << Strangely, she seemed to like MR, while I did not. >>
>
> See? You floccinaucinihilipilificate too much.
>
> > FLOCCINAUCINIHILIPILIFICATION
> The action or habit of judging something to be worthless....etc

How in the name of Jojoba do you go about pronouncing that one?


Correspondent:: "Revi Shankar"
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 20:43:41 -0500

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"Bob Dionysus the Builder" wrote in message
news:41bf60b4$0$36696$a344fe98@news.wanadoo.nl...
> AssCo Assc wrote:
> > << Strangely, she seemed to like MR, while I did not. >>
> >
> > See? You floccinaucinihilipilificate too much.
> >
> > > FLOCCINAUCINIHILIPILIFICATION
> > The action or habit of judging something to be worthless....etc
>
> How in the name of Jojoba do you go about pronouncing that one?

Thought you'd NEVER ask.

FLAW si (as in "sit" or maybe "see", regionally) NAW si (as in sit) nee (as
in knee) hill i (as in sit) PILL i (as in sit) fi (as in fit) CAY shun.

or -

FLAW see NAW see knee hilly PILL of vacation.

Easy peasy, and fun too!








Correspondent:: HellPope Huey
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 03:59:09 GMT

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In article <1Yydnb1NPclTCyLcRVn-pQ@adelphia.com>,
"Revi Shankar" wrote:
> "Bob Dionysus the Builder" wrote in message
> news:41bf60b4$0$36696$a344fe98@news.wanadoo.nl...
> > AssCo Assc wrote:

> > > << Strangely, she seemed to like MR, while I did not. >>
> > >
> > > See? You floccinaucinihilipilificate too much.
> > >
> > > > FLOCCINAUCINIHILIPILIFICATION
> > > The action or habit of judging something to be worthless....etc
> >
> > How in the name of Jojoba do you go about pronouncing that one?
>
> Thought you'd NEVER ask.
> > FLAW si (as in "sit" or maybe "see", regionally) NAW si (as in sit) nee (as
> in knee) hill i (as in sit) PILL i (as in sit) fi (as in fit) CAY shun.
> > or -
> > FLAW see NAW see knee hilly PILL of vacation.
> > Easy peasy, and fun too!

You're going to call up an Elder God, talking like that. SHUT UUUUUP!!

--

HellPope Huey
Everyone put your left shoe in this bag
or the kid here GETS it

I was brought up in that other service;
but I knew from the first that the Devil
was my natural master and captain and friend.
I saw that he was in the right
and that the world cringed to his conqueror only from fear.
- George Bernard Shaw, "The Devil's Disciple"

God does not play dice with the universe;
He plays an ineffable game of his own devising,
which might be compared,
from the perspective of any of the other players,
to being involved in an obscure and complex version of poker
in a pitch dark room, with blank cards, for infinite stakes,
with a dealer who won't tell you the rules
and who smiles all the time.
- Gaiman and Pratchett's "Good Omens"


Correspondent:: SubGenius Spice
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 06:33:41 GMT

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In alt.slack, HellPope Huey was all like...

:: You're going to call up an Elder God, talking like that. SHUT UUUUUP!!

or fred flintstone's little alien friend whatever the hell his name was.





Correspondent:: "Talysman the Ur-Beatle"
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 06:48:31 GMT

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SubGenius Spice wrote in
news:MPG.1c297aa1a17ff16d98971f@netnews.worldnet.att.net:

> In alt.slack, HellPope Huey was all like...
>
>:: You're going to call up an Elder God, talking like that. SHUT UUUUUP!!
>
> or fred flintstone's little alien friend whatever the hell his name was.

the Great Gazoo, as I recall.

man, I almost forgot about him. he looked sort of like George Jetson,
didn't he? what the heck did they need an alien for? or a stone-age version
of the Addams Family?


--
Talysman the Ur-Beatle, STRAWGRASPER


Correspondent:: "Paul E. Jamison"
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:16:04 -0600

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"Talysman the Ur-Beatle" wrote in message
news:Xns95BFE8043151Eglobalsurrealism@64.164.98.7...
> SubGenius Spice wrote in
> news:MPG.1c297aa1a17ff16d98971f@netnews.worldnet.att.net:
>
> > In alt.slack, HellPope Huey was all like...
> >
> >:: You're going to call up an Elder God, talking like that. SHUT
UUUUUP!!
> >
> > or fred flintstone's little alien friend whatever the hell his name was.
>
> the Great Gazoo, as I recall.
>
> man, I almost forgot about him. he looked sort of like George Jetson,
> didn't he? what the heck did they need an alien for? or a stone-age
version
> of the Addams Family?
>
Probably an attempt to boost sagging ratings. I'll have to look that up on
the Jump-the-Shark website.

Paul




Correspondent:: asscoassc@aol.comBLOWME (AssCo Assc)
Date: 16 Dec 2004 01:05:32 GMT

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<< > >:: You're going to call up an Elder God, talking like that. SHUT
UUUUUP!!
> >
> > or fred flintstone's little alien friend whatever the hell his name was.
>
> the Great Gazoo, as I recall. >>

Or worse -- Mr. Mtyzlplyk's fat ass in those stupid
green pantyhose.

"Mytzlplyk floccinauccinihilipated the hazifrapapipalopupulos [sic]."




ooOOoo

It petrifies the tongue. . .
Shoots arrows through the lung. . .
Guttural rending pain . . .
. . . and next it Sclerotifies the brain
-- Copyright 2004 Ilya Shambat


Correspondent:: SubGenius Spice
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 06:54:49 GMT

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In alt.slack, Paul E. Jamison was all like...

:: "Talysman the Ur-Beatle" wrote in message
:: news:Xns95BFE8043151Eglobalsurrealism@64.164.98.7...
:: > SubGenius Spice wrote in
:: > news:MPG.1c297aa1a17ff16d98971f@netnews.worldnet.att.net:
:: >
:: > > In alt.slack, HellPope Huey was all like...
:: > >
:: > >:: You're going to call up an Elder God, talking like that. SHUT
:: UUUUUP!!
:: > >
:: > > or fred flintstone's little alien friend whatever the hell his name was.
:: >
:: > the Great Gazoo, as I recall.
:: >
:: > man, I almost forgot about him. he looked sort of like George Jetson,
:: > didn't he? what the heck did they need an alien for? or a stone-age
:: version
:: > of the Addams Family?
:: >
:: Probably an attempt to boost sagging ratings. I'll have to look that up on
:: the Jump-the-Shark website.

according to the episode guide, he appeared in episode #145 out of 166,
so i'd say yeah.


Correspondent:: Zapanaz
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:31:57 -0800

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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 06:54:49 GMT, SubGenius Spice
wrote:

>In alt.slack, Paul E. Jamison was all like...
>
>:: "Talysman the Ur-Beatle" wrote in message
>:: news:Xns95BFE8043151Eglobalsurrealism@64.164.98.7...
>:: > SubGenius Spice wrote in
>:: > news:MPG.1c297aa1a17ff16d98971f@netnews.worldnet.att.net:
>:: >
>:: > > In alt.slack, HellPope Huey was all like...
>:: > >
>:: > >:: You're going to call up an Elder God, talking like that. SHUT
>:: UUUUUP!!
>:: > >
>:: > > or fred flintstone's little alien friend whatever the hell his name was.
>:: >
>:: > the Great Gazoo, as I recall.
>:: >
>:: > man, I almost forgot about him. he looked sort of like George Jetson,
>:: > didn't he? what the heck did they need an alien for? or a stone-age
>:: version
>:: > of the Addams Family?
>:: >
>:: Probably an attempt to boost sagging ratings. I'll have to look that up on
>:: the Jump-the-Shark website.
>
>according to the episode guide, he appeared in episode #145 out of 166,
>so i'd say yeah.

That was right before the Giger episodes started


I think that was an underrated phase of the Jetsons, myself.

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International Satanic Conspiracy
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which we cannot normally perceive. Some energies have a spiritual
source which acts upon a person's soul. However, this soul does
not exist abinissio as orthodox Christianity teaches, it has to
be brought into existence by a process of guided self-observation.
However, this is rarely achieved oweing to man's unique ability
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Correspondent:: Zapanaz
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:33:16 -0800

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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 06:54:49 GMT, SubGenius Spice
wrote:

>In alt.slack, Paul E. Jamison was all like...
>
>:: "Talysman the Ur-Beatle" wrote in message
>:: news:Xns95BFE8043151Eglobalsurrealism@64.164.98.7...
>:: > SubGenius Spice wrote in
>:: > news:MPG.1c297aa1a17ff16d98971f@netnews.worldnet.att.net:
>:: >
>:: > > In alt.slack, HellPope Huey was all like...
>:: > >
>:: > >:: You're going to call up an Elder God, talking like that. SHUT
>:: UUUUUP!!
>:: > >
>:: > > or fred flintstone's little alien friend whatever the hell his name was.
>:: >
>:: > the Great Gazoo, as I recall.
>:: >
>:: > man, I almost forgot about him. he looked sort of like George Jetson,
>:: > didn't he? what the heck did they need an alien for? or a stone-age
>:: version
>:: > of the Addams Family?
>:: >
>:: Probably an attempt to boost sagging ratings. I'll have to look that up on
>:: the Jump-the-Shark website.
>
>according to the episode guide, he appeared in episode #145 out of 166,
>so i'd say yeah.

http://www.hrgiger.com/images/spell1_40.jpg

Jane!? JANE?????????



--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
"I fear we are not getting rid of God because we still believe in
grammar."
--Friedrich Nietzsche (1889)



Correspondent:: HdMrs. Salacia the Overseer
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 07:41:49 -0600

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On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:33:16 -0800, Zapanaz
wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 06:54:49 GMT, SubGenius Spice
> wrote:
>
>>In alt.slack, Paul E. Jamison was all like...
>>
>>:: "Talysman the Ur-Beatle" wrote in message
>>:: news:Xns95BFE8043151Eglobalsurrealism@64.164.98.7...
>>:: > SubGenius Spice wrote in
>>:: > news:MPG.1c297aa1a17ff16d98971f@netnews.worldnet.att.net:
>>:: >
>>:: > > In alt.slack, HellPope Huey was all like...
>>:: > >
>>:: > >:: You're going to call up an Elder God, talking like that. SHUT
>>:: UUUUUP!!
>>:: > >
>>:: > > or fred flintstone's little alien friend whatever the hell his name was.
>>:: >
>>:: > the Great Gazoo, as I recall.
>>:: >
>>:: > man, I almost forgot about him. he looked sort of like George Jetson,
>>:: > didn't he? what the heck did they need an alien for? or a stone-age
>>:: version
>>:: > of the Addams Family?
>>:: >
>>:: Probably an attempt to boost sagging ratings. I'll have to look that up on
>>:: the Jump-the-Shark website.
>>
>>according to the episode guide, he appeared in episode #145 out of 166,
>>so i'd say yeah.
>
>http://www.hrgiger.com/images/spell1_40.jpg
>
>Jane!? JANE?????????

http://www.animationartgallery.com/AVPCTAG.html

Rrrastro?

This is a thing sculpted by Lance Henriksen based on the movie
character for Alien which was designed by Giger.IIRC.



Correspondent:: SubGenius Spice
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 06:50:17 GMT

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In alt.slack, Talysman the Ur-Beatle was all like...

:: SubGenius Spice wrote in
:: news:MPG.1c297aa1a17ff16d98971f@netnews.worldnet.att.net:
::
:: > In alt.slack, HellPope Huey was all like...
:: >
:: >:: You're going to call up an Elder God, talking like that. SHUT UUUUUP!!
:: >
:: > or fred flintstone's little alien friend whatever the hell his name was.
::
:: the Great Gazoo, as I recall.
::
:: man, I almost forgot about him. he looked sort of like George Jetson,
:: didn't he? what the heck did they need an alien for? or a stone-age version
:: of the Addams Family?

more like the love child of george jetson and the jolly green giant.
dunno why the infusion of alien.

i guess same reason why pebbles and bam bam could suddenly sing bubble-
gum rock songs yet not be able to talk.









Correspondent:: HellPope Huey
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:01:56 GMT

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In article ,
SubGenius Spice wrote:

> more like the love child of george jetson and the jolly green giant.
> dunno why the infusion of alien.
> i guess same reason why pebbles and bam bam could suddenly sing bubble-
> gum rock songs yet not be able to talk.

Since when has that been so unusual? Bubble-gum pop and actual
intelligent speech have always circled one another warily, like two
gone-to-seed old boxers who missed their chance to hawk grills bearing
their names. I know the world is much poorer because the Bay City
Rollers aren't around to guide us concerning the balance of trade
between Austria and Ceylon.

--

HellPope Huey
An explanation in 30 minutes or less
or its pointless anyway

Indifference and neglect
often do much more damage than outright dislike.
- "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix"

"Look alive, here comes a buzzard."
- Walt Kelly


Correspondent:: Zapanaz
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:33:33 -0800

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On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 22:19:32 -0800, nenslo wrote:

>The
>gimmicky stuff (which Ebert stupidly calls "virtuoso filmmaking")

pra' nenslo

I have spent worse two hours of my life than watching Minority Report
but I have definitely spent better. It was CUTE. If Spielberg could
have avoided trying to get his half-assed pretentious hippy message
flags into it it might have even been tolerable.


I saw a survey recently where somebody nominated Spielberg as one of
the "most important artists of the 20th century".

I really fucking hate the world.


--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
The wind is the moon's imagination; wandering



Correspondent:: HellPope Huey
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:23:00 GMT

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In article <216sr0h0gavup3qgeapb9if92fsath7i79@4ax.com>,
Zapanaz wrote:

> I really fucking hate the world.

I don't blame you. The damned thing hasn't brushed its teeth since
1923. I can still smell Groucho's cigar smoke and the old bits of
Freakies cereal stuck between its teeth. Its real Basil Wolverton
material, eeeuunnngh.

--

HellPope Huey
I get back at Satan
by not using fabric softener on his towels

We are not necessarily doubting that God
will do the best for us;
we are wondering how painful
the best will turn out to be.
- C. S. Lewis

"If I don't get my tantric sex
on oxycontin, I just can't go on!"
- Jon Stewart