Uh-oh! Panhandler!
Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:36:57 GMT
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Remember Nenslo's run-ins with the Portland panhandlers?
I saw this, and immediately thought....but, no! It couldn't be!
washingtonpost.com
Man Shot to Death Outside Ore. Store
By TYPH TUCKER
The Associated Press
Thursday, December 23, 2004; 2:44 PM
PORTLAND, Ore. - A man who witnesses say was panhandling outside a busy downtown
department store was shot to death Thursday in front of horrified holiday shoppers.
A suspect was quickly arrested. Witnesses said the gunman fired three shots at the victim,
then calmly walked away.
Police said the motive for the shooting was not immediately known.
KPAM radio reported that witnesses said the victim had been panhandling in front of the landmark
Meier & Frank store. Sgt. Brian Schmautz, police spokesman, told The Associated Press he could
not confirm that.
Schmautz said the suspect surrendered without incident. His name was not immediately released.
The block is in the heart of downtown, just across from Pioneer Courthouse Square.
Holiday shoppers were on the streets, and a Salvation Army Santa was nearby when the shooting
occurred about 8:20 a.m.
The last fatal shooting downtown was in 2002, when a man killed a fellow methadone patient
near the same spot and was chased by a crowd of witnesses.
© 2004 The Associated Press
Correspondent:: "Paul Casino"
Date: 23 Dec 2004 13:47:51 -0800
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Every time I hear the word "panhandle" I picture some old man, really
old lookin', just standing there with a broken-off handle, like a
little curved piece of plastic, and he's just standing in the middle of
the street shaking it at people who walk by. Shaking that piece of
plastic real hard with lots of gusto and drama. And he keeps pointing
at his eye....I dunno.
Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:03:56 GMT
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"Paul Casino" wrote:
>Every time I hear the word "panhandle" I picture some old man, really
>old lookin', just standing there with a broken-off handle, like a
>little curved piece of plastic, and he's just standing in the middle of
>the street shaking it at people who walk by. Shaking that piece of
>plastic real hard with lots of gusto and drama. And he keeps pointing
>at his eye....I dunno.
>
"Word Detective" says that in the 1800's some beggars used real pans!
So, that's about right with the panhandle. I suppose they were suggesting
that one put food in the cooking impliment.
Maybe they could just stand on the street corner with a beer-bong,
and people could walk by and pour stuff to drink into it.
Correspondent:: Ued
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:17:40 -0500
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In article ,
saurkraut@weinerschnitzle.com says...
>
> PORTLAND, Ore. - A man who witnesses say was panhandling outside a busy downtown
> department store was shot to death Thursday in front of horrified holiday shoppers.
> A suspect was quickly arrested. Witnesses said the gunman fired three shots at the victim,
> then calmly walked away.
>
> Police said the motive for the shooting was not immediately known.
S'pose the motive was harassment?
Correspondent:: "nu-monet v7.0"
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:19:38 -0700
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Ued wrote:
>
> In article saurkraut@weinerschnitzle.com says...
> >
> > PORTLAND, Ore. - A man who witnesses say was
> > panhandling outside a busy downtown
> > department store was shot to death Thursday in
> > front of horrified holiday shoppers.
> > A suspect was quickly arrested. Witnesses said
> > the gunman fired three shots at the victim,
> > then calmly walked away.
> >
> > Police said the motive for the shooting was not
> > immediately known.
>
> S'pose the motive was harassment?
>
Neurotic insecurity resulting in premeditated murder.
I knew one such psycho. He was enormous in stature.
Maybe 6'3" tall and 300 pounds and utterly terrified
that some street child might ask him for spare change.
He had never been attacked by anyone, nor had anyone
ever even been impolite to him, but the very thought
that they were *there*, just waiting for him to be
walking down the street, "minding his own business",
ready to pounce out and *ask* him for money was almost
too much for him to bear.
He ranted that they should all be arrested, transported
out of town and kept from every returning, and, if at
all possible, to be put in "camps" (his word), and shot
if they tried to leave.
I can easily imagine him (or Nenslo, for that matter)
seeing some kids or even an adult, or maybe a Salvation
Army person, outside their favored drug or health food
store, *preventing* them from going inside by victimizing
them by possibly asking them for spare change.
This enrages them so very much that they go home and get
a handgun.
--
Unless there is some reason for investigation,
the federal law and the Constitution still
protect the rights of citizens.
--FBI agent Greg Stejskal
Correspondent:: "iDRMRSR"
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:46:13 -0500
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>>they should all be arrested, transported
out of town and kept from every returning, and, if at
all possible, to be put in "camps" (his word), and shot
if they tried to leave.
Sigh, don't make me nostalgic for the Real America. You have no idea how
many problems this simple advice would solve!
[*]
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Correspondent:: Ued
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:33:56 -0500
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In article ,
idrmrsr@sssssubgenius.com says...
> >>they should all be arrested, transported
> out of town and kept from every returning, and, if at
> all possible, to be put in "camps" (his word), and shot
> if they tried to leave.
>
> Sigh, don't make me nostalgic for the Real America. You have no idea how
> many problems this simple advice would solve!
When you get panhandled, offer a few of the pennies in your pocket.
The truly needy will thank you, or at least accept them without whining;
a con artist will get all pissy or start moaning about it. Then you'll
know whether you should leave 'em be or go call the cops.
Correspondent:: "Paul Casino"
Date: 23 Dec 2004 19:54:01 -0800
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I was walking to the bar with one of my friends in New York City and a
bum came up to us and asked for some change. I was gonna throw him
some, and my buddy sez: "Nah, he's just gonna spend it on booze." I
repeat, I WAS WALKING TO A BAR...
Correspondent:: "nu-monet v7.0"
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:47:04 -0700
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iDRMRSR wrote:
>
> >>they should all be arrested, transported
> out of town and kept from every returning,
> and, if at all possible, to be put in "camps"
> (his word), and shot if they tried to leave.
>
> Sigh, don't make me nostalgic for the Real
> America. You have no idea how many problems
> this simple advice would solve!
>
I don't know about the older ones, but there is
some Slack among the youngins.
Much of the complaining about them seems to be
those who resent their living their lives like
they want to. Think about that.
If they had a CON minimum-wage job and were
living in a shitty, way-overpriced apartment,
paying half their wages to Uncle Sugar, just so
they could eat, drink beer and smoke dope, they
would be FINE, UPSTANDING CITIZENS. It's FINE
that they live their lives like they want to.
But instead, they choose to NOT do THAT kind of
work, instead of just asking people for money,
and just maybe getting enough to live on; NOT
pay Uncle Sugar for his wars; and NOT eat or
drink beer or smoke dope as much as they would
like, and, oh yes, maybe sleep in a shitty place
in a bag instead of in a shitty apartment on a
bed.
And this somehow makes them SCUM. They shouldn't
be allowed to Slack Off.
But the great irony is that for a lot of 'em,
half the time they are FINE, UPSTANDING CITIZENS
and the other half of the time they are SCUM,
just depending on things.
It all boils down to the mistaken belief that if
somebody else is fucked with, it might, in some
cosmic way, make your life a little better. That
belief is some fucked up shit.
--
Herring communicate with each other
via a high-pitched, "raspberry"-like
sound emitted from their anuses.
These noises are not produced by
digestive gases.
-- from 'The New Scientist'
Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:01:08 GMT
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"nu-monet v7.0" wrote:
>iDRMRSR wrote:
>>
>> >>they should all be arrested, transported
>> out of town and kept from every returning,
>> and, if at all possible, to be put in "camps"
>> (his word), and shot if they tried to leave.
>>
>> Sigh, don't make me nostalgic for the Real
>> America. You have no idea how many problems
>> this simple advice would solve!
>>
>
>I don't know about the older ones, but there is
>some Slack among the youngins.
>
>Much of the complaining about them seems to be
>those who resent their living their lives like
>they want to. Think about that.
>
>If they had a CON minimum-wage job and were
>living in a shitty, way-overpriced apartment,
>paying half their wages to Uncle Sugar, just so
>they could eat, drink beer and smoke dope, they
>would be FINE, UPSTANDING CITIZENS. It's FINE
>that they live their lives like they want to.
>
>But instead, they choose to NOT do THAT kind of
>work, instead of just asking people for money,
>and just maybe getting enough to live on; NOT
>pay Uncle Sugar for his wars; and NOT eat or
>drink beer or smoke dope as much as they would
>like, and, oh yes, maybe sleep in a shitty place
>in a bag instead of in a shitty apartment on a
>bed.
>
>And this somehow makes them SCUM. They shouldn't
>be allowed to Slack Off.
>
>But the great irony is that for a lot of 'em,
>half the time they are FINE, UPSTANDING CITIZENS
>and the other half of the time they are SCUM,
>just depending on things.
>
>It all boils down to the mistaken belief that if
>somebody else is fucked with, it might, in some
>cosmic way, make your life a little better. That
>belief is some fucked up shit.
>
OK, fine. One crack bum told me he'd made $400 in one day
panhandling a shopping center parking lot--
But the same crew of bums has been 86'd from several local
places, and that trespass warrants out on them so that if they
go back, they'll get a year in the county jug.
So, it would seem to be a nomadic lifestyle of necessity.
Correspondent:: HellPope Huey
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 06:02:28 GMT
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In article <41CB7518.1B8B@succeeds.com>,
"nu-monet v7.0" wrote:
> It all boils down to the mistaken belief that if
> somebody else is fucked with, it might, in some
> cosmic way, make your life a little better. That
> belief is some fucked up shit.
Welcome to alt.slack, seeker!
--
HellPope Huey
That's one hell of a pickle,
Connie said to the beefy butcher.
"Who's that?"
"Oh, you wouldn't know them darling;
they're respectable."
- "After the Thin Man"
"How DARE you interfere with my literary posturing
and sully it with points of style???
The worst part is, you are correct. F**K you, sir."
- H. P. Huey
Correspondent:: "Revi Shankar"
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:44:50 -0500
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"iDRMRSR" wrote in message
news:ML6dnfZQeO9YxVbcRVn-gA@giganews.com...
> >>they should all be arrested, transported
> out of town and kept from every returning, and, if at
> all possible, to be put in "camps" (his word), and shot
> if they tried to leave.
>
> Sigh, don't make me nostalgic for the Real America. You have no idea how
> many problems this simple advice would solve!
A favorite verse of mine:
Oh, could we do with this world of ours
As thy dost with the garden bowers,
Reject the weeds and keep the flowers,
What a heaven on earth we'd make it!
Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:51:00 GMT
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"Revi Shankar" wrote:
>
>"iDRMRSR" wrote in message
>news:ML6dnfZQeO9YxVbcRVn-gA@giganews.com...
>> >>they should all be arrested, transported
>> out of town and kept from every returning, and, if at
>> all possible, to be put in "camps" (his word), and shot
>> if they tried to leave.
>>
>> Sigh, don't make me nostalgic for the Real America. You have no idea how
>> many problems this simple advice would solve!
>
>
>A favorite verse of mine:
>
>Oh, could we do with this world of ours
> As thy dost with the garden bowers,
>Reject the weeds and keep the flowers,
> What a heaven on earth we'd make it!
>
>
So in this world I'd make for thee,
Our hearts should all like fire-flies be,
And the flash of wit or poesy
Break forth whenever we choose it.
Correspondent:: "Revi Shankar"
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:53:23 -0500
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; "GfbAEV" wrote in message
news:8GYyd.1154877$Gx4.809819@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> "Revi Shankar" wrote:
> >
> >"iDRMRSR" wrote in message
> >news:ML6dnfZQeO9YxVbcRVn-gA@giganews.com...
> >> >>they should all be arrested, transported
> >> out of town and kept from every returning, and, if at
> >> all possible, to be put in "camps" (his word), and shot
> >> if they tried to leave.
> >>
> >> Sigh, don't make me nostalgic for the Real America. You have no idea
how
> >> many problems this simple advice would solve!
> >
> >
> >A favorite verse of mine:
> >
> >Oh, could we do with this world of ours
> > As thy dost with the garden bowers,
> >Reject the weeds and keep the flowers,
> > What a heaven on earth we'd make it!
> >
> >
> So in this world I'd make for thee,
> Our hearts should all like fire-flies be,
> And the flash of wit or poesy
> Break forth whenever we choose it.
>
Aye. That's him.
Correspondent:: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)
Date: 24 Dec 2004 03:57:22 GMT
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>I knew one such psycho. He was enormous in stature.
>Maybe 6'3" tall and 300 pounds and utterly terrified
>that some street child might ask him for spare change.
>
>He had never been attacked by anyone, nor had anyone
>ever even been impolite to him, but the very thought
>that they were *there*, just waiting for him to be
>walking down the street, "minding his own business",
>ready to pounce out and *ask* him for money was almost
>too much for him to bear.
>
>He ranted that they should all be arrested, transported
>out of town and kept from every returning, and, if at
>all possible, to be put in "camps" (his word), and shot
>if they tried to leave.
I didn't know you knew Karl Rove?
MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man
"War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"
Charles E. Montague
Correspondent:: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)
Date: 24 Dec 2004 03:55:28 GMT
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> Remember Nenslo's run-ins with the Portland panhandlers?
>I saw this, and immediately thought....but, no! It couldn't be!
>
>washingtonpost.com
>Man Shot to Death Outside Ore. Store
After hearing "Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer" fifteen time a day for two
weeks, who would'nt be ready to shoot somebody.
MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man
"War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"
Charles E. Montague