urban legend
Correspondent:: "nu-monet v7.0"
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 15:56:11 -0700
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From snopes.com
"America is very proud of its mythology. Popular myths
like George Washington chopping down a cherry tree,
Abraham Lincoln splitting rails for a living, and that
President Hoover owned the Hoover Vacuum Cleaner Company
are still taught in many schools as fact.
However, perhaps the most enduring myth that even many
historians will swear is fact is the alleged attack on
Pearl Harbor, Hawai'i, on December 7th, 1941, by the
Imperial Japanese Fleet.
While December 7th, 1941 was indeed the date on which
the Japanese declared war against the United States, it
did so by dispatching its ambassador to the White House,
where President Franklin D. Roosevelt received their
official declaration of war.
Followed shortly by the German declaration of war, the
US soon found itself on a "total war" footing, and used
the significant propaganda resources of Hollywood to
motivate the isolationist American public to the cause
of war.
The first big-budget movie produced as pure propaganda
was titled "Pearl Harbor", and starred John Wayne, Ronald
Reagan and Charlton Heston as three Army Air Corps officers
stationed in Hawai'i, and served several purposes. The
first of these was to show the horrible devastation that
Japan intended to inflict on the United States, and the
second was to try and convince the public that a far-away
Pacific Island territory was worth defending.
Ironically, due to a budgeting error, the movie was given
almost 100 times the budget it was intended to have, far
more than any production well into the 1990s, and was a
complete and utter box-office disaster, with fewer than
15,000 people seeing it nationwide. It closed in theaters
within a few days, and almost ruined the career of its
producer, Howard Hughes.
However, what could have been an utter waste was saved for
its propaganda value by chopping the most dramatic battle
scenes of the movie, and using them as brief clips in the
popular "Newsreels" of the time. They were a remarkable
success in this new format, and soon Americans were
clamoring for "revenge" against the perceived injustice
of having an imaginary fleet destroyed in some distant and
exotic, but American, place.
And the Attack at Pearl Harbor entered the American lexicon
right after the Attack on the Maine, which everybody was
supposed to remember, but for some reason, few still do.
An interesting aside was that "Pearl Harbor" was eventually
re-made by Hollywood, no complete prints existing of the
original movie, and re-titled as "Tora! Tora! Tora!" It
was considerably more popular in the theaters, despite
being a wholly fictional account, and the fact that because
of a mis-translation, the English title of the movie would
properly be "Liver! Liver! Liver!"
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Correspondent:: Reverend Kenny
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 20:54:49 -0500
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nu-monet v7.0 wrote:
> From snopes.com
I can't believe that one. I was a submarine quartermaster stationed at
pearl in the late 80's. It can be quite tricky navigating a 200 foot sub
around all those underwater wrecks. did the article say anything about
how they got there?
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Reverend Kenny
For every extremist, there is an equal and opposite extremist...
Correspondent:: Eddie Vroom
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 03:21:54 GMT
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Reverend Kenny wrote:
> I can't believe that one. I was a submarine quartermaster stationed at
> pearl in the late 80's. It can be quite tricky navigating a 200 foot sub
> around all those underwater wrecks. did the article say anything about
> how they got there?
Props.
Either that, or The Devil (tm) planted fake artifacts to hoodwink you,
thus rendering you more accepting of this "reality" while you, in fact,
burn for aeons in this slow-roasting circle of Hell, because if he just
popped out and said "boo" and you saw cauldrons of hot smoking sulphur
like they said in sunday school, you'd lose Hope and the existential
tortures that earmark this shithole planet would lose their impact.
Or not. Carry on...
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the White Lotus Fortune Cookie Company
June 23, 2004
Correspondent:: "iDRMRSR"
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:37:52 -0500
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> I can't believe that one. I was a submarine quartermaster stationed at
> pearl in the late 80's. It can be quite tricky navigating a 200 foot sub
> around all those underwater wrecks. did the article say anything about how
> they got there?
I been there once, and the thing I figured out was, it was the cheapest way
to prop up that memorial thing that is there. Otherwise they'd a hadda
design and build a proper base for it. Instead they just kept piling up old
wrecks until it was about the right depth.
Still sunk in the middle, though:
http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/Museums/PearlHarbor/UssArizona/Outside/ArizonaMemorialWithLaunch.jpg
http://tinyurl.com/4jzar
Always seemed a tad queer to put up a memorial to Arizona way out there in
Hawaii. But maybe some Hawaiians went to Arizona and liked it so much they
didn't want to forget it, so they built this thing. Hawaiians are such nice
and laid back people, that's just the kind of friendly thing they'd do, like
stay home and play one of these all day:
http://www.alohaplentyhawaii.com/cdcover-sks-web-3.jpg
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Correspondent:: Reverend Kenny
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 22:48:23 -0500
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iDRMRSR wrote:
>>I can't believe that one. I was a submarine quartermaster stationed at
>>pearl in the late 80's. It can be quite tricky navigating a 200 foot sub
>>around all those underwater wrecks. did the article say anything about how
>>they got there?
>
>
> I been there once, and the thing I figured out was, it was the cheapest way
> to prop up that memorial thing that is there. Otherwise they'd a hadda
> design and build a proper base for it. Instead they just kept piling up old
> wrecks until it was about the right depth.
>
> Still sunk in the middle, though:
>
> http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/Museums/PearlHarbor/UssArizona/Outside/ArizonaMemorialWithLaunch.jpg
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4jzar
>
> Always seemed a tad queer to put up a memorial to Arizona way out there in
> Hawaii. But maybe some Hawaiians went to Arizona and liked it so much they
> didn't want to forget it, so they built this thing. Hawaiians are such nice
> and laid back people, that's just the kind of friendly thing they'd do, like
> stay home and play one of these all day:
>
> http://www.alohaplentyhawaii.com/cdcover-sks-web-3.jpg
>
> [*]
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>
>
Brilliant! LOL!
--
Illuminations,
Reverend Kenny
For every extremist, there is an equal and opposite extremist...
Correspondent:: Zapanaz
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 19:42:26 -0800
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On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 03:21:54 GMT, Eddie Vroom
wrote:
>Reverend Kenny wrote:
>
>> I can't believe that one. I was a submarine quartermaster stationed at
>> pearl in the late 80's. It can be quite tricky navigating a 200 foot sub
>> around all those underwater wrecks. did the article say anything about
>> how they got there?
>
>Props.
>
>Either that, or The Devil (tm) planted fake artifacts to hoodwink you,
>thus rendering you more accepting of this "reality" while you, in fact,
>burn for aeons in this slow-roasting circle of Hell, because if he just
>popped out and said "boo" and you saw cauldrons of hot smoking sulphur
>like they said in sunday school, you'd lose Hope and the existential
>tortures that earmark this shithole planet would lose their impact.
>
>Or not. Carry on...
Well it's like famed Arctic explorer Ludwig van Beethoven said once,
"you can't please all of the people all of the time". But he was
wrong. Obviously Ludwig van Beethoven had never heard of BLOWJOBS.
If you count all forms of oral sex, you CAN please all of the people
all of the time. So what the hell was his problem?
or I think he said "you can fool half the people half the time, and
all of the people half the time, and all of the time half of the
people can fool all of the people some of the time, and all of the
people some of the time half of the people, but you can't fool half of
all of the people all of the time some of the time", and I think it
was Abraham Lincoln, before he died.
Abraham Lincoln was a famed Arctic explorer too.
--
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Correspondent:: Cardboard Box
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 20:49:26 GMT
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Some time between the hours of March 10th and Friday, Zapanaz
committed the following:
> Abraham Lincoln was a famed Arctic explorer too.
You didn't pay attention in history, didja?
Abraham Lincoln was led more successful assaults in the war against the
Radioactive Giant Dwarf Death Spiders With Laser Spinnerets From 17A Mars
than any other soldier. It's widely believed that he didn't actually die,
but is currently imprisoned in their retreat on Io. He must be, because
nobody's disproved it.
(Note: I might be on the wrong side of Mars. Maybe they were 16A or 18A,
but they were definitely to the back of the subdivision!)
--
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foreign ad)
Correspondent:: Reverend Kenny
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 22:45:33 -0500
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Eddie Vroom wrote:
> Reverend Kenny wrote:
>
>> I can't believe that one. I was a submarine quartermaster stationed at
>> pearl in the late 80's. It can be quite tricky navigating a 200 foot
>> sub around all those underwater wrecks. did the article say anything
>> about how they got there?
>
>
> Props.
>
> Either that, or The Devil (tm) planted fake artifacts to hoodwink you,
> thus rendering you more accepting of this "reality" while you, in fact,
> burn for aeons in this slow-roasting circle of Hell, because if he just
> popped out and said "boo" and you saw cauldrons of hot smoking sulphur
> like they said in sunday school, you'd lose Hope and the existential
> tortures that earmark this shithole planet would lose their impact.
>
> Or not. Carry on...
Wait! LOL! Who's Devil? Mine or yours? Damn world would be in trouble if
our devils ever met huh? LOL! I'm getting the existential blues! Or
maybe it's just gas....
Nah who cares if they are old shipwrecks or new ones... they are there I
can promise you that! But wait! None of you really know me so what good
is my promise. MMMUUUUHAHAHAHAHA! Mainland US'ers are quite rudely
called "Howie's" on the islands. They mean it when they say it too...
Like an asshole redneck yellin nigger in Georgia. They actively blame
military personnel for the deaths of their Grandpa's and Grandma's. If
our base wasn't there, their precious island would have never been
bombed. It's been some time since I've lived there but I can tell you
this. I wouldn't go back even if you all were paying for it.
I am curious to see more on that article though... I want to see how
they explain the wrecks (Hell one of them's even a tourist attraction)
and how they explain the animosity of the natives towards the US
militarys presence.
You know one of these days those volcanos in Hawaii are going to go nova
on there asses! I wonder if they'll need assistance?
--
Illuminations,
Reverend Kenny
For every extremist, there is an equal and opposite extremist...
Correspondent:: William Earl Haskell
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 00:08:20 -0600
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Reverend Kenny wrote:
> I am curious to see more on that article though... I want to see how
> they explain the wrecks (Hell one of them's even a tourist attraction)
> and how they explain the animosity of the natives towards the US
> militarys presence.
Our Boys just have this God-given ability to bring out the animosity from
_any_ natives _any_ where at _any_ time.
Correspondent:: HellPope Huey
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 17:41:33 GMT
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In article <41b7e9b3$0$141$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org>,
William Earl Haskell wrote:
> Reverend Kenny wrote:
>
> > I am curious to see more on that article though... I want to see how
> > they explain the wrecks (Hell one of them's even a tourist attraction)
> > and how they explain the animosity of the natives towards the US
> > militarys presence.
>
> Our Boys just have this God-given ability to bring out the animosity from
> _any_ natives _any_ where at _any_ time.
Well, remember, they ARE generally between 19 and 25, so they are
still, well-educated or not, group-guided, macho-minded neo-knuckleheads
with guns who aren't getting laid and who might get blown up at any
moment, so you BET all that juice comes out. Not our best ambassadors,
no. People riding around in tanks, sporting rifles, somehow fail to
bring out the sunshine in people's souls. Neither is the 3-volume set on
line dancing being offered on TV.
--
HellPope Huey
My ruby slippers got turned at the heels
The only people for me are the mad ones,
the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk,
mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time,
the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing.
- Jack Kerouac, "On the Road"
I'm glad I don't have to explain to a man from Mars
why each day I set fire to dozens of little pieces of paper
and then put them in my mouth.
- Mignon McLaughlin
Correspondent:: Baldin Pramer
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 07:38:57 -0700
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Reverend Kenny wrote:
>
>
> nu-monet v7.0 wrote:
>
>> From snopes.com
>
>
> I can't believe that one. I was a submarine quartermaster stationed at
> pearl in the late 80's. It can be quite tricky navigating a 200 foot sub
> around all those underwater wrecks. did the article say anything about
> how they got there?
>
Props. Sunken props.
--
Sir Baldin Pramer, R.P.A.