what I want to know is this,
Correspondent:: Zapanaz
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 18:11:58 -0800
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So how would Leave it to Beaver's mom and dad have handled it if he
had come home with a black girlfriend?
It's not that the show's writers were afraid to deal with controversy,
to some extent. I remember they did one show where Beaver befriended
a local hobo who turns out to be an alchoholic and dies and they were
very proud of that show and pointed it out later when people mock the
show for being the epitome of naivete.
I think they just couldn't CONCEIVE something like that happening, any
more than they would have thought of a show where Beaver turned into a
bunny and flew away forever. It's not that they wouldn't have done
it, but they couldn't have done it.
Maybe if it was Wally instead. At least that would have been somewhat
within the realm of the possible. And maybe they could have just made
it a friend, not a GIRL friend girl friend. And maybe they could have
made it a guy, after all, if they weren't going to make it a
girlfriend.
But that's all beside the point. The point is, how would they deal
with the INCONCEIVABLE? Everything that happens is inconceivable
before it happens. Beaver in a WILD, TORRID, JAZZ LOVE AFFAIR with a
blues singer darker than the bowl of Ward's mahogany pipe. I mean,
Ward and June were not stupid people, or naive. Ward was a veritable
fount of worldly wisdom. Like he had that one friend, the pudgy bald
guy, who was a weasel, and they make it clear that Ward has enough
insight to grasp his character and enough integrity to deal with him
realistically. He's not a one-dimensional character. Really he deals
with the little problems that come along fairly well. But what about
something COMPLETELY UNIMAGINABLE?
OK, it's a fundamentally stupid question. I guess I am still trying
to figure out how you people re-elected Bush. My working theory has
something to do with old Leave it to Beaver episodes.
Did black people even exist in Leave it to Beaver's world? Was there
ever one single negro on-screen during a Leave it to Beaver episode?
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Correspondent:: "James"
Date: 8 Dec 2004 18:52:33 -0800
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Ward looks like the guy on your Subgenius pamphlets. Maybe "Ward" was
actually Bob, or maybe "Bob" was actually Ward. Hard to tell these
days.
Correspondent:: "James"
Date: 8 Dec 2004 18:58:36 -0800
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Ward and June would have handled it with the utmost diplomacy, or at
least until the "friend" left with Wally to join the Hare Krsna people.
And Wally shaved his head, and he started selling flowers beside his
friend at the Fire Station, while chanting to Gus. Then Haskell
started "befriending" the Beaver. Then Ward would kick ass in a style
that makes "Stone Cold" look like a pansy.
Correspondent:: HellPope Huey
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 03:30:28 GMT
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In article ,
Zapanaz wrote:
> So how would Leave it to Beaver's mom and dad have handled it if he
> had come home with a black girlfriend?
June's head would explode; Ward would begin to drink heavily.
If he brought home a boyfriend, it would then be Ward's head that would
explode and June who would take up the hootch.
--
HellPope Huey
I lost part of my hair
when it got tangled in the malaprop
"How many times do I have to tell you people,
I met Jesus, we didn't hit it off!"
- 'Becker'
"Manhood is the ability to outlast despair."
- James Jones
Correspondent:: phy
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 14:32:55 GMT
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Zapanaz wrote in
news:iccfr05jmb32ljb8fir5dvfm484q49j3po@4ax.com:
> So how would Leave it to Beaver's mom and dad have handled it if he
> had come home with a black girlfriend?
Well, we weren't the Cleavers and I forget how my dad handled it, but my
mom choked on her food. She is taking it better now though.
-phy