Correspondent:: "Giles" Date: 9 Jan 2005 22:39:38 -0800
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A Digital-Age question:
If I write an original song, I own the copy-write on it, until I sell
or give it away (unless it was a "work for hire"). The song as
"notes-on-paper" is distinct from the recording of the song, which
may be done by a party other than the songwriter. The owner of the
copy-write may well be the only person to collect a dime on most
recordings. (Note, at this point, I didn't say the songwriter.)
O.K. Now if I paint a painting, I imagine I would hold the copy-write
on it as well. If I sell the painting, who now has the copy-write? Me,
or the buyer? (If someone wants to make posters, for instance) A song
as "notes-on-paper" has no tangible form, per se, but a painting
does.
If I take a photograph, I own the copy-write on the photo. What if I
take a photo of your painting? Can I make copies of "my photo/your
painting"?
We have a bunch of artists here and I wonder if this has ever come up?
Correspondent:: Zapanaz Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:30:09 -0800
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On 9 Jan 2005 22:39:38 -0800, "Giles" wrote:
>A Digital-Age question:
>If I write an original song, I own the copy-write on it, until I sell
>or give it away (unless it was a "work for hire"). The song as
>"notes-on-paper" is distinct from the recording of the song, which
>may be done by a party other than the songwriter. The owner of the
>copy-write may well be the only person to collect a dime on most
>recordings. (Note, at this point, I didn't say the songwriter.)
>O.K. Now if I paint a painting, I imagine I would hold the copy-write
>on it as well. If I sell the painting, who now has the copy-write? Me,
>or the buyer? (If someone wants to make posters, for instance) A song
>as "notes-on-paper" has no tangible form, per se, but a painting
>does.
>If I take a photograph, I own the copy-write on the photo. What if I
>take a photo of your painting? Can I make copies of "my photo/your
>painting"?
>We have a bunch of artists here and I wonder if this has ever come up?
copy "RIGHT".
--
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International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
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"Once you snip my responses to things being posted to and about me, then you
have nothing to read."
-John Schneider II
Correspondent:: "Giles" Date: 10 Jan 2005 12:02:50 -0800
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Zapanaz wrote:
> copy "RIGHT".
>
Man, was I fried when I posted this. Jebus, I stared at your reply and
said "Wha?" for 10 minutes. My brain would not compute. (Spellchecker,
my ass)
Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:25:47 GMT
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Giles wrote:
> Zapanaz wrote:
>
> > copy "RIGHT".
> >
> Man, was I fried when I posted this. Jebus, I stared at your reply and
> said "Wha?" for 10 minutes. My brain would not compute. (Spellchecker,
> my ass)
I thought that I understood what you were talking about,
but my feeling is that if it's not for commercial use, copy
all you want. Or you could try to charge for each use.
Dress-up like a jukebox, stand on the boardwalk in
Venice, California and see how many quarters people
stick in. You might start a trend!
Correspondent:: Zapanaz Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:27:14 -0800
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On 10 Jan 2005 12:02:50 -0800, "Giles" wrote:
>Zapanaz wrote:
>
>> copy "RIGHT".
>>
>Man, was I fried when I posted this. Jebus, I stared at your reply and
>said "Wha?" for 10 minutes. My brain would not compute. (Spellchecker,
>my ass)
i just couldn't read it because my brain kept choking on that. If
that's the worst thing my brain chokes on in a subgenius newsgroup tho
then it's a good day.
--
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International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
HONK IF YOU'RE ONTOLOGICALLY ALIENATED
Correspondent:: asscoassc@aol.comBLOWME (AssCo Assc)
Date: 10 Jan 2005 22:22:02 GMT
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What if I wipe my butt on the painting and alter it
with the addition of some artistic arse-tracks? Does
this make it a new work? what if I tattooed a picture of Nenslo on your ass,
who would own your ass, me or Nenslo? Would I be able to sell your ass or take
pictures of it? who becomes owner of it after you die? what if I took a picture
of your ass with Nenslo tattooed on it and them made a painting of it and then
took a picture of the painting and proceeded to hire an elephant to blow
mayonaise out if its trunk all over the picture of the painting of the picture
of nenslo tattooed on your ass? who would be given final credit in the
documentary footage of the event, the elephant, nenslo, the mayo or your ass?
and who would narrate? score the soundtrack? and if the owner of an audio
recording is the person who recorded it, wouldn't the elephant, nenslo, the
mayonaise, your ass and the picture of the painting all become property of the
documentary cameraman? if so, what might the cameraman (or "camera-worker" as
is the politically correct term) actually do with an elephant, Nenslo, your
ass, a trunk full of mayonaise and a picture of the painting with my ass tracks
on it? would he even want this collection of wildly disparate items? would he
then be able to sell each of these items seperately, or would he forced to sell
them as a set?
ooOOoo
Daily Affirmation:
No matter what new depths to which my life may fall,
I may always take solace in the fact
that I will never be found refining a puppet act.
Correspondent:: "angelicusrex" Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:05:26 -0700
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"AssCo Assc" wrote in message
news:20050110172202.11374.00000043@mb-m10.aol.com...
> What if I wipe my butt on the painting and alter it
> with the addition of some artistic arse-tracks?
Adding to a previously copyrighted work does not make it original to you.
Destroying that work makes you liable for payment to the original owner.
> Does
> this make it a new work?
No.
> what if I tattooed a picture of Nenslo on your ass,
> who would own your ass, me or Nenslo?
Once a work is transfered to another person's skin, they own the work and
the copyrights. If you use Nenslo's photo without his permission, you could
be sued. Or the person who took the photo could sue you. Depending on if it
were a professional studio photograph or an amateur one.
> Would I be able to sell your ass or take
> pictures of it?
Not unless I sold you the copyights.
> who becomes owner of it after you die?
Since no human remains are allowed to be held by citizens of the United
States anyone who had my ass tattoo in their possession would be a criminal.
You CAN take it with you. In fact you HAVE to take it with you.
> what if I took a picture
> of your ass with Nenslo tattooed on it and them made a painting of it
If you had my permission to take a photo of my ass, I'd be surprised.
However you would only have permission then to reproduce the photo. If you
took the photo without my permission, you'd be shit out of luck.
You could do a painting from memory or a photo, then the painting would be
original to you.
>and then
> took a picture of the painting
The photo of the painting would be your copyrighted material.
> and proceeded to hire an elephant to blow
> mayonaise out if its trunk all over the picture of the painting of the
> picture
> of nenslo tattooed on your ass?
Then you would have a elephant snot and mayonnaise stained painting of a
tattoo of Nenslo on my ass. Which I would defy you to sell to even the
horniest art-fag in NYC!
> who would be given final credit in the
> documentary footage of the event, the elephant, nenslo, the mayo or your
> ass?
Whomever did the documentary shoot...you mentioned nothing about that.
However the cinematographer or video professional would either be doing it
for his own purpose and therefore own the copyrights. Or he'd be doing it as
a work-for-hire and you would own the copyright. However a signed contract
would be necessary in that event.
> and who would narrate?
Entirely up to you, old chap.
> score the soundtrack?
Again, you make the call.
> and if the owner of an audio
> recording is the person who recorded it, wouldn't the elephant, nenslo,
> the
> mayonaise, your ass and the picture of the painting all become property of
> the
> documentary cameraman?
Not unless you pay the narrator and sound guy first. If you do not pay them,
they would all essentially own a piece of your art project and could sue you
if you did not give it to them.
> if so, what might the cameraman (or "camera-worker" as
> is the politically correct term) actually do with an elephant, Nenslo,
> your
> ass, a trunk full of mayonaise and a picture of the painting with my ass
> tracks
> on it? would he even want this collection of wildly disparate items?
Most likely not. However if he were in full possession of said items, they
would essentially be "his property." Property of course means possession and
possession is 9/10ths of the law.
>would he
> then be able to sell each of these items seperately, or would he forced to
> sell
> them as a set?
He could sell each one separately or as a set. And he could endlessly sell
the tapes of him selling the items as well as the original tape itself. So
make sure you get a signed contract!
ooOOoo
> Daily Affirmation:
> No matter what new depths to which my life may fall,
> I may always take solace in the fact
> that I will never be found refining a puppet act.
I think you are refining your sock-puppet act right now...so the above seems
to be a misstatement.
Archimandrite Pudlevitcz
Correspondent:: HellPope Huey Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 02:57:15 GMT
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In article <20050110172202.11374.00000043@mb-m10.aol.com>,
asscoassc@aol.comBLOWME (AssCo Assc) wrote:
> What if I wipe my butt on the painting and alter it
> with the addition of some artistic arse-tracks? Does
> this make it a new work? what if I tattooed a picture of Nenslo on your ass,
> who would own your ass, me or Nenslo? Would I be able to sell your ass or
> take
> pictures of it? who becomes owner of it after you die? what if I took a
> picture
> of your ass with Nenslo tattooed on it and them made a painting of it and
> then
> took a picture of the painting and proceeded to hire an elephant to blow
> mayonaise out if its trunk all over the picture of the painting of the
> picture
> of nenslo tattooed on your ass? who would be given final credit in the
> documentary footage of the event, the elephant, nenslo, the mayo or your ass?
What if you crept in while he was asleep and wiped your ass with
Nenslo's hair, would it then be legal to peddle your ass without giving
Nensie a cut of the take?
--
HellPope Huey
Director and Star of "Mon Nuclear Derrier Amour"
("I Love My Nuclear Ass")
If you want to see the true measure of a man,
watch how he treats his inferiors, not his equals.
- J. K. Rowling
"If you don't have enemies,
you don't have character."
- Paul Newman
Correspondent:: "nu-monet v7.0" Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 06:24:08 -0700
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Giles wrote:
>
> A Digital-Age question:
> If I write an original song, I own the copy-write on it, until I sell
> or give it away (unless it was a "work for hire"). The song as
> "notes-on-paper" is distinct from the recording of the song, which
> may be done by a party other than the songwriter. The owner of the
> copy-write may well be the only person to collect a dime on most
> recordings. (Note, at this point, I didn't say the songwriter.)
> O.K. Now if I paint a painting, I imagine I would hold the copy-write
> on it as well. If I sell the painting, who now has the copy-write? Me,
> or the buyer? (If someone wants to make posters, for instance) A song
> as "notes-on-paper" has no tangible form, per se, but a painting
> does.
> If I take a photograph, I own the copy-write on the photo. What if I
> take a photo of your painting? Can I make copies of "my photo/your
> painting"?
> We have a bunch of artists here and I wonder if this has ever come up?
Everything you ever wanted to know about music copyright:
(Be sure to check out The Case of "The Cunnilingus Champion of Co. C")
--
"YOU BELONG TO US NOW!"
"GET DOWN WITH MY SICKNESS!!"
--Kino Beman, brand name
Correspondent:: "Kevin Cunningham" Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:21:02 GMT
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"Giles" wrote in message
news:1105339177.986626.253930@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>A Digital-Age question:
> If I write an original song, I own the copy-write on it, until I sell
> or give it away (unless it was a "work for hire"). The song as
> "notes-on-paper" is distinct from the recording of the song, which
> may be done by a party other than the songwriter. The owner of the
> copy-write may well be the only person to collect a dime on most
> recordings. (Note, at this point, I didn't say the songwriter.)
> O.K. Now if I paint a painting, I imagine I would hold the copy-write
> on it as well. If I sell the painting, who now has the copy-write? Me,
> or the buyer? (If someone wants to make posters, for instance) A song
> as "notes-on-paper" has no tangible form, per se, but a painting
> does.
> If I take a photograph, I own the copy-write on the photo. What if I
> take a photo of your painting? Can I make copies of "my photo/your
> painting"?
> We have a bunch of artists here and I wonder if this has ever come up?
>
You must apply for and get a copy-write, it is not an automatic thing. A
copy-write is given to protect the completed work of a person. Usually
artists don't copy-write art works since the value in the work is in the
work itself. Works like books get there value from copies made and sold.
If you have more questions you should consult an attorney. It'll cost you
but you will make a lot less mistakes. Contact your local bar association
and ask for a copy-write and contracts firm. You probably have one near you
were ever you are.
Go with "bOB"
Rev. Dr. Junior Mints
Anti-Pope of Atlanta
Correspondent:: HellPope Huey Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:19:32 GMT
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Go to the horse's mouth. Please floss while you are in there.
http://lcweb.loc.gov/copyright/
--
HellPope Huey
Director and Star of "Mon Nuclear Derrier Amour"
("I Love My Nuclear Ass")
If you want to see the true measure of a man,
watch how he treats his inferiors, not his equals.
- J. K. Rowling
"If you don't have enemies,
you don't have character."
- Paul Newman
Correspondent:: "Giles" Date: 10 Jan 2005 12:33:18 -0800
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HellPope Huey wrote:
> Go to the horse's mouth. Please floss while you are in there.
>
> http://lcweb.loc.gov/copyright/
Thanks to everyone for all your help.
.
Here is a little song for HellPope, written by Ray "the Kinks" Davies
back in 1970. I wish I had payed more attention back then:
.
The MoneyGoRound
.
Robert owes half to grenville
Who in turn gave half to larry
Who adored my instrumentals
And so he gave half to a foreign publisher
She took half the money that was earned in some far distant land
Gave back half to larry and I end up with half of goodness knows what
Oh can somebody explain why things go on this way
I thought they were my friends I can't believe it's me, I can't
believe that I'm so green
Eyes down round and round let's all sit and watch the moneygoround
Everyone take a little bit here and a little bit there
Do they all deserve money from a song that they've never heard
They don't know the tune and they don't know the words
But they don't give a damn
There's no end to it I'm in a pit and I'm stuck in it
The money goes round and around and around
And it comes out here when they've all taken their share
I went to see a solicitor and my story was heard and the writs were
served
On the verge of a nervous breakdown I decided to fight right to the end
But if I ever get my money I'll be too old and grey to spend it
Oh, but life goes on and on and no one ever wins
And time goes quickly by just like the moneygoround
I only hope that I'll survive
Correspondent:: "Assco" Date: 10 Jan 2005 15:51:23 -0800
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Giles wrote:
> goes round and around and around
> And it comes out here. . .
Now Ray Davies may sue you for copyright
infringement -- but Elmer Fudd may sue him.
Correspondent:: HellPope Huey Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 02:48:55 GMT
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In article <1105389198.541660.134130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Giles" wrote:
> HellPope Huey wrote:
> > Go to the horse's mouth. Please floss while you are in there.
> > http://lcweb.loc.gov/copyright/
>
> Thanks to everyone for all your help.
> Here is a little song for HellPope, written by Ray "the Kinks" Davies
> back in 1970. I wish I had payed more attention back then:
> The MoneyGoRound
Heh, yeah... Ray Davies is all too unsung as a really great songwriter,
no pun intended. He's kind of the Andy Partridge of his "day," an
outstanding artist who is sort of off to the left in a field of more
famous, lesser talents who made WAY more money at it. Cheers to Ray.
--
HellPope Huey
Director and Star of "Mon Nuclear Derrier Amour"
("I Love My Nuclear Ass")
If you want to see the true measure of a man,
watch how he treats his inferiors, not his equals.
- J. K. Rowling
"If you don't have enemies,
you don't have character."
- Paul Newman
Correspondent:: "angelicusrex" Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:38:22 -0700
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It's "copyrights" not copy-write...that is your right to COPY work that you
have done. All work is copyrighted once it is put down on paper or
electronically published. According to the law. You own the copyright. No
one can lift it without your permission.You do not even have to put the
circle c stamp on anything anymore, or send it to yourself in the mail, etc.
The thing is this, unless you get the copyright registered with the Federal
Govt. you do not have any real ability to sue someone for money because they
steal your work. To register things for copyrights with the govt. (it costs
about $30.00...one trick is to compile a bunch of stuff all together and
call it a "compilation" of work and register it all for the thirty bucks...)
Simply go to the Federal Copyright office on-line for the paperwork...Just
Google the word Copyright and Federal. Things are changing very quickly in
the copyright field these days, including in the electronic copyright field,
so keep up to date!
Archimandrite Pudlevitcz
Correspondent:: Zapanaz Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:20:23 -0800
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:38:22 -0700, "angelicusrex"
wrote:
>It's "copyrights" not copy-write...that is your right to COPY work that you
>have done. All work is copyrighted once it is put down on paper or
>electronically published. According to the law. You own the copyright. No
>one can lift it without your permission.You do not even have to put the
>circle c stamp on anything anymore, or send it to yourself in the mail, etc.
>The thing is this, unless you get the copyright registered with the Federal
>Govt. you do not have any real ability to sue someone for money because they
>steal your work. To register things for copyrights with the govt. (it costs
>about $30.00...one trick is to compile a bunch of stuff all together and
>call it a "compilation" of work and register it all for the thirty bucks...)
>Simply go to the Federal Copyright office on-line for the paperwork...Just
>Google the word Copyright and Federal. Things are changing very quickly in
>the copyright field these days, including in the electronic copyright field,
>so keep up to date!
>
>Archimandrite Pudlevitcz
>
i should copyright the word "copyright"
just to watch the gov't civil service guy's heads melt.
>
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
No hay banda
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According to Zapanaz :
>I should copyright the word "copyright".
Can't copyright individual words.
It's not easy to hack the intellectual property system (systems,
actually: trade secret, copyright, trademark, patent). Richard
Stallman did it, so it can be done, but none of the easy ways work.
--
Chip Salzenberg - a.k.a. -
People are supposed to die for freedom. Not the other way around.
Correspondent:: Zapanaz Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:47:30 -0800
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:58:24 -0000, chip@pobox.com (Chip Salzenberg)
wrote:
>According to Zapanaz :
>>I should copyright the word "copyright".
>
>Can't copyright individual words.
>
>It's not easy to hack the intellectual property system (systems,
>actually: trade secret, copyright, trademark, patent). Richard
>Stallman did it, so it can be done, but none of the easy ways work.
well they let you sue for copying individual notes. That leaves all
kinds of doors open. I'm going to stake a claim on C# and sue the
Berlin Symphony. They have deep pockets.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
If I smoke too much weed I turn into a Pink Floyd instrumental
- Anonymous
Correspondent:: "Paul E. Jamison" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:58:17 -0600
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"Zapanaz" wrote in message
news:4l08u0hvhppn68dtm4ig4pkl7iqhatadi7@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:58:24 -0000, chip@pobox.com (Chip Salzenberg)
> wrote:
>
> >According to Zapanaz :
> >>I should copyright the word "copyright".
> >
> >Can't copyright individual words.
> >
> >It's not easy to hack the intellectual property system (systems,
> >actually: trade secret, copyright, trademark, patent). Richard
> >Stallman did it, so it can be done, but none of the easy ways work.
>
> well they let you sue for copying individual notes. That leaves all
> kinds of doors open. I'm going to stake a claim on C# and sue the
> Berlin Symphony. They have deep pockets.
>
If you *do* copyright "Cee-sharp" you could sue the optometrists as well.
Paul
Correspondent:: Artemia Salina Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:09:22 -0500
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:21:02 +0000, Kevin Cunningham wrote:
> You must apply for and get a copy-write, it is not an automatic thing. A
> copy-write is given to protect the completed work of a person. Usually
> artists don't copy-write art works since the value in the work is in the
> work itself. Works like books get there value from copies made and sold.
Not true. All "written works" are automatically copyrighted by their
authors. There are no forms to fill out or govt agencies to contact.
You have copyright on every posting on usenet you ever made, for
example, as it is a written work and you are its author. It is implied,
in the case of usenet postings, that you give permission for copies of
your work to be made and transmitted to others. You can at any time,
however, change the terms of your copyright if you want. You can for
instance define whether your work (usenet postings) is sold by others.
This is why GNU software comes with a "GNU Public License" (GPL). The GPL
is just a well thought out set of terms to be followed by those who would
re-distribute the software. The authors of the software, who automatically
have copyright on it (they created it, so it belongs to them), have simply
adopted the terms of the GPL and stated that those terms apply to their work.
>
> If you have more questions you should consult an attorney.
This might be applicable if you were to attempt to sell your work
(i.e. relinquish your "right to copy" to someone else), but in general
the original author automatically retains copyright until he or she
explicitly relinquishes it.
Google the "Berne Convention" if interested.
PS:
I'm still of the opinion that one's email address is a "written work"
and therefor its author has copyright on it. This could make email address
harvesters potentially guilty of copyright infringement if copyright were to
be enforced.
Correspondent:: Zapanaz Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:50:32 -0800
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:09:22 -0500, Artemia Salina
wrote:
>Not true. All "written works" are automatically copyrighted by their
>authors. There are no forms to fill out or govt agencies to contact.
>You have copyright on every posting on usenet you ever made, for
>example, as it is a written work and you are its author. It is implied,
>in the case of usenet postings, that you give permission for copies of
>your work to be made and transmitted to others. You can at any time,
>however, change the terms of your copyright if you want. You can for
>instance define whether your work (usenet postings) is sold by others.
somebody should sue Google Groups.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment
for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?
Correspondent:: nenslo Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:56:52 -0800
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Giles wrote:
>
> A Digital-Age question:
> If I write an original song, I own the copy-write on it, until I sell
> or give it away (unless it was a "work for hire"). The song as
> "notes-on-paper" is distinct from the recording of the song, which
> may be done by a party other than the songwriter. The owner of the
> copy-write may well be the only person to collect a dime on most
> recordings. (Note, at this point, I didn't say the songwriter.)
> O.K. Now if I paint a painting, I imagine I would hold the copy-write
> on it as well. If I sell the painting, who now has the copy-write? Me,
> or the buyer? (If someone wants to make posters, for instance) A song
> as "notes-on-paper" has no tangible form, per se, but a painting
> does.
> If I take a photograph, I own the copy-write on the photo. What if I
> take a photo of your painting? Can I make copies of "my photo/your
> painting"?
> We have a bunch of artists here and I wonder if this has ever come up?
Copyright (CORRECT SPELLING, you're welcome) only matters if someone
ever actually wants to pay money for something you did or created.
Which will never happen.
Correspondent:: "Rev. Ivan Stang" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:26:00 -0500
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In article <41E386BF.2944D64@yahoox.com>, nenslo
wrote:
>
> Copyright (CORRECT SPELLING, you're welcome) only matters if someone
> ever actually wants to pay money for something you did or created.
> Which will never happen.
FINALLY someone who correctly understands the copyright laws.
I might add that the key to winning a copyright case in court lies in
obtaining a lawyer who golfs at the same country club as the judge.
I'm not "being funny" either.
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According to stang@subgeniusNOSPUMMY.com:
>I might add that the key to winning a copyright case in court lies in
>obtaining a lawyer who golfs at the same country club as the judge.
For "copyright" read "any".
>I'm not "being funny" either.
Nor am I. *sigh*
--
Chip Salzenberg - a.k.a. -
People are supposed to die for freedom. Not the other way around.
Correspondent:: "nu-monet v7.0" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:01:25 -0700
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Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
>
> I might add that the key to winning a
> copyright case in court lies in
> obtaining a lawyer who golfs at the same
> country club as the judge.
>
> I'm not "being funny" either.
>
That mentions something I've been pondering for
a long time: a "judgement" test.
We have I.Q. tests, that while far from perfect,
give you a general idea of how smart somebody is.
So why not give tailored "judgement" tests to
professionals, to see if they have the common
sense, as well as the I.Q., to perform their
job?
Tailored, as in job specific. For example:
Judges.
Some ethnic minority you don't like is standing
before you accused of murder. What do you do?
a) Sentence the sumbitch to death.
b) Get a jury conviction and then sentence the
sumbitch to death.
c) Judge whether the facts merit his being
sentenced to death, after giving him a fair
trial before a jury.
d) Never, ever sentence anybody to death because
you just don't feel like doing it.
Dentists.
A good looking woman has just been given anesthetic
prior to your performing an operation. What do you
do?
a) Examine her vagina for gingivitis.
b) Fondle her breasts.
c) Carefully perform the surgery she needs.
d) Wait until the anesthetic is just about worn
off, then get revenge on the stuck-up bitch,
because you are half-insane with AIDS.
School Principals.
A young girl has just told you that she has lost her
lunch money. What do you do?
a) STRIP SEARCHES FOR EVERYBODY!
b) Have her arrested for carrying weapons to
school, coins that somebody could choke on
or use to buy drugs. Notify Homeland Security.
c) Let her eat lunch for free that day.
d) Marry her.
Religion-founding Dieties.
You have just met some potential disciples in a bar.
What do you do?
a) Drunkenly blather about your godhood, then give
them a cocktail napkin with something scrawled on it,
and expect them to regularly send checks, based on wild
promises and threats.
b) Bust up the place as sinful and melt the eyes of
everybody in the city before causing an asteroid to wipe
out all trace of their existence as they proclaim you
the "god of love."
c) Give them vast amounts of wealth and power, and
set them up as kings over all mankind, asking only that
they remember you fondly and be nice.
d) Drink and beer or two and don't tell anybody
anything.
--
"Money can't buy you happiness,
but when you're poor, you can't
buy shit, and nobody will loan
you happiness."
--nu-monet
Correspondent:: HellPope Huey Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:50:24 GMT
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In article <41E386BF.2944D64@yahoox.com>, nenslo
wrote:
> Copyright (CORRECT SPELLING, you're welcome) only matters if someone
> ever actually wants to pay money for something you did or created.
> Which will never happen.
A copyright doesn't mean shit unless you have FAR more money than you
generally make on a work to prosecute someone who MIGHT try to steal it
outright and sell it under a bogus banner. Its also mega-pointless if
some Chinese fuck downloads it and sells ripped copies from a kiosk in
Bang Sum Poon province. Yeah, you're going to get a twelfth of a yen
from little Dong Gwin in damages.... and Zoogz Rift will be coming to
your house to do the Dance of the Seven Veiled Pukes on your front lawn,
too.
--
HellPope Huey
My glands are a-drainin' and my eyesight's a wreck
and my brain is a slag heap full of grackle pecks but
I paid m'$30 and m'mind's propped up and thanks to
"Bobby" Dobbs my pils are sent in free from a P.O. Box
in Whatalottastan and oom poppa oom poppa oom poppa
mow mow hip shot rim job kitty kitty cow cow bleep eep
eep eep eep eepeepeepeepeepeepeepeep*
"You know what you need?
A good old-fashioned spanking."
- Elvis in "Blue Hawaii"
"Life creates itself in delerium...
...and is undone in ennui "
-E. M. Cioran