Director's Cut My Eye
Correspondent:: nenslo
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:59:34 -0800

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No I didn't see Un Chien Andalou again, I trudged through the whirling
winds of the "restored" 130+ minute Lost Horizon. I will say again what
I said when I saw the theatrical release of the "restored" Touch of
Evil, with people LITERALLY falling asleep around me - SOME MOVIES NEED
TO HAVE TWENTY MINUTES CUT OUT OF THEM. Some need even more. On both
occasions I was wishing I had seen the much shorter version, and most
recently I was also wishing I had just gotten The Mole People instead -
same concept but with the monsters and excitement Lost Horizon lacked.
Giant spiders, robots, ANYTHING other than just TALKING TALKING TALKING.
A nice snappy 90 minutes would have been just fine with me.

On the other hand, Mrs. Nenslo and I agreed for once on Abre Los Ojos
(Open Your Eyes), the remarkable movie which was unfortunately remade
into the widely disliked Vanilla Sky. Having been fortunate enough not
to see the latter, I found the Spanish original just damned stupefying
in where it ended up going. AS IF IT HAD BEEN MADE FOR SMART PEOPLE
instead of the usual 13 year old dumbasses movies are made for in USAmerica.


Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:26:13 GMT

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nenslo wrote:
>No I didn't see Un Chien Andalou again, I trudged through the whirling
>winds of the "restored" 130+ minute Lost Horizon. I will say again what
>I said when I saw the theatrical release of the "restored" Touch of
>Evil, with people LITERALLY falling asleep around me - SOME MOVIES NEED
>TO HAVE TWENTY MINUTES CUT OUT OF THEM. Some need even more. On both
>occasions I was wishing I had seen the much shorter version, and most
>recently I was also wishing I had just gotten The Mole People instead -
>same concept but with the monsters and excitement Lost Horizon lacked.
>Giant spiders, robots, ANYTHING other than just TALKING TALKING TALKING.
> A nice snappy 90 minutes would have been just fine with me.
>
>On the other hand, Mrs. Nenslo and I agreed for once on Abre Los Ojos
>(Open Your Eyes), the remarkable movie which was unfortunately remade
>into the widely disliked Vanilla Sky. Having been fortunate enough not
>to see the latter, I found the Spanish original just damned stupefying
>in where it ended up going. AS IF IT HAD BEEN MADE FOR SMART PEOPLE
>instead of the usual 13 year old dumbasses movies are made for in USAmerica.

Luis Buñuel made about a half dozen Mexican films, El Gran Calavera
http://colina.residencia.csic.es/imagenes/bunuel/filmo/index/filmograf.html

Olvidados los tiempos escandalosos del surrealismo, Buñuel languidecía en México,
a punto de retirarse del cine. Finalizaba la década de los cuarenta, el fantasma de la
Segunda Guerra comenzaba a alejarse y el cineasta estaba a punto de cumplir
cincuenta años. Nada parecía indicar que su futuro dentro del medio estuviese asegurado.
http://cinemexicano.mty.itesm.mx/peliculas/gran_calavera.html






Correspondent:: "Rev. Ivan Stang"
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:08:20 -0500

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In article <41F49CD5.D406CC0A@yahoox.com>, nenslo
wrote:

> No I didn't see Un Chien Andalou again, I trudged through the whirling
> winds of the "restored" 130+ minute Lost Horizon. I will say again what
> I said when I saw the theatrical release of the "restored" Touch of
> Evil, with people LITERALLY falling asleep around me - SOME MOVIES NEED
> TO HAVE TWENTY MINUTES CUT OUT OF THEM.

Some PEOPLE need to have 20 YEARS cut out of them. Isn't there a movie
about that, too? Final Cut or something?

>Some need even more. On both
> occasions I was wishing I had seen the much shorter version, and most
> recently I was also wishing I had just gotten The Mole People instead -
> same concept but with the monsters and excitement Lost Horizon lacked.
> Giant spiders, robots, ANYTHING other than just TALKING TALKING TALKING.
> A nice snappy 90 minutes would have been just fine with me.

You're talking about the 1930s version, right? 'Cause there was an even
more hated MUSICAL version in the 80s or one of those decades I was
alive in, back then.

I read that during the filming of the snow scenes, one of the actors
was real excited about making a wintry visible-breath effect on the
soundstage by holding a tiny CAGE full of DRY ICE in his MOUTH while
speaking his lines. He suffered severe frostbite on his tongue and had
to be replaced by another actor -- that's my murky memory of some murky
thing I read.

Last night I finished watching the director's cut of the third Lord of
the Rings movie. Took four nights just to watch it. LotR is a case
where the longer version is JUST FINE on DVD, since you already know
going in that it's too long for one sitting. And the stuff they put
back into the DVD version is all COOL AS HELL. When the Man That
Doesn't Want to Be King and the Funny Dwarf and the Blonde Elf Archer
Girl go into the Mountain Full of Dead Guys, there's a scene where they
get stuck in a LANDSLIDE OF HUMAN SKULLS. It's so... Vreedeezian... it
must have really hurt to cut that scene for theatrical release.

But in this particular set of movies, DVDs had already been invented
and the producers knew from the get-go that there would be two
versions, the shorter theatrical and infinitely long DVD collector's
ones, and both versions play fine. Short version for the theater where
you can't pause it and go pee, and long version for when you can.

Plus on the DVD or VHS tape you have replay capability. Princess Wei
and I examined the scene where the Blonde Elf Chick slays the giant War
ElephantSaurus and all its human drivers singlehandedly, OVER AND OVER.
I also find myself replaying dialog frequently because I didn't catch
it clearly the first time -- I hate to miss a single word of dialog. As
opposed to real-life talking by live humans in a room -- THAT I can
phase out easily without qualms.

>
> On the other hand, Mrs. Nenslo and I agreed for once on Abre Los Ojos
> (Open Your Eyes), the remarkable movie which was unfortunately remade
> into the widely disliked Vanilla Sky. Having been fortunate enough not
> to see the latter, I found the Spanish original just damned stupefying
> in where it ended up going. AS IF IT HAD BEEN MADE FOR SMART PEOPLE
> instead of the usual 13 year old dumbasses movies are made for in USAmerica.

I thought Vanilla Sky was okay! And I have heard that the original is
much much better so maybe I'll keep my eyes open for Open Your Eyes.
From what I can tell, it's another one of those many movies where you
see it and go, "Oh, like The Matrix, only before down-dumbing."

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Correspondent:: nenslo
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:00:29 -0800

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"Rev. Ivan Stang" wrote:
>
> Lost Horizon
>
> You're talking about the 1930s version, right? 'Cause there was an even
> more hated MUSICAL version in the 80s or one of those decades I was
> alive in, back then.

The only movie my mother and I ever walked out of together.

> maybe I'll keep my eyes open for Open Your Eyes.
> From what I can tell, it's another one of those many movies where you
> see it and go, "Oh, like The Matrix, only before down-dumbing."
>

Almost exactly what I said, except I said in Nenslospeak instead of Stangspeak.


Correspondent:: "Rev. Ivan Stang"
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:51:03 -0500

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In article <41F57E0C.29EBA2EC@yahoox.com>, nenslo
wrote:

> >
>
> Almost exactly what I said, except I said in Nenslospeak instead of Stangspeak.


And you just said THAT in Nenslese instead of Stench

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