No I am not
Correspondent:: nenslo
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:33:09 -0800
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No I am not trying to raise the intellectual level of this newsgroup
because that is IMPOSSIBLE. Most of you are dumbasses who like nothing
more than debating the merits of the latest brainless movie spectacle in
which people in elaborate costumes equipped with highly advanced
technology get in fistfights with each other. A few of you, a very few
are the target audience for these posts and really enjoy a movie which
is well written and intelligent. It is to you I recommend "Illuminata."
"Always wear nice underwear. I learned that too late."
Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:00:42 GMT
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nenslo wrote:
>No I am not trying to raise the intellectual level of this newsgroup
>because that is IMPOSSIBLE. Most of you are dumbasses who like nothing
>more than debating the merits of the latest brainless movie spectacle in
>which people in elaborate costumes equipped with highly advanced
>technology get in fistfights with each other. A few of you, a very few
>are the target audience for these posts and really enjoy a movie which
>is well written and intelligent. It is to you I recommend "Illuminata."
"The recurring puppet shows are pointless"
Sounds like my kind of film!
Correspondent:: brthrn@dangermedia.org
Date: 13 Jan 2005 07:16:21 -0800
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I see your Illuminata and raise you a Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are
Dead.
Weird that Turturro hasn't directed any films since. Though.
"The play's the thing! To capture the conscience of the King."
Weird. I wanted to type The Thing. Right there.
Correspondent:: "Rev. Ivan Stang"
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:23:02 -0500
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In article <41E62433.FE726C99@yahoox.com>, nenslo
wrote:
> No I am not trying to raise the intellectual level of this newsgroup
> because that is IMPOSSIBLE. Most of you are dumbasses who like nothing
> more than debating the merits of the latest brainless movie spectacle in
> which people in elaborate costumes equipped with highly advanced
> technology get in fistfights with each other. A few of you, a very few
> are the target audience for these posts and really enjoy a movie which
> is well written and intelligent. It is to you I recommend "Illuminata."
>
> "Always wear nice underwear. I learned that too late."
Plot Summary for
Illuminata (1998)
It's the start of the 20th century, and Tuccio, resident playwright of
a theatre repertory company offers the owners of the company his new
play, "Illuminata". They reject it, saying it's not finished, and
intrigue starts that involves influential critic Bevalaqua, theatre
star Celimene, young lead actors and other theatre residents.
Influential critic "Bevalaqua!" AHAHAHAHA
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Correspondent:: polar bear
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:26:53 -0800
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In article <130120051023026354%stang@subgeniusNOSPUM.com>, "Rev. Ivan
Stang" wrote:
> In article <41E62433.FE726C99@yahoox.com>, nenslo
> wrote:
>
> > No I am not trying to raise the intellectual level of this newsgroup
> > because that is IMPOSSIBLE. Most of you are dumbasses who like nothing
> > more than debating the merits of the latest brainless movie spectacle in
> > which people in elaborate costumes equipped with highly advanced
> > technology get in fistfights with each other. A few of you, a very few
> > are the target audience for these posts and really enjoy a movie which
> > is well written and intelligent. It is to you I recommend "Illuminata."
> >
> > "Always wear nice underwear. I learned that too late."
>
>
> Plot Summary for
> Illuminata (1998)
>
> It's the start of the 20th century, and Tuccio, resident playwright of
> a theatre repertory company offers the owners of the company his new
> play, "Illuminata". They reject it, saying it's not finished, and
> intrigue starts that involves influential critic Bevalaqua, theatre
> star Celimene, young lead actors and other theatre residents.
>
> Influential critic "Bevalaqua!" AHAHAHAHA
I think I'll give it a pass. My doctor told me not to yawn until my
jaw is completely healed.
pb
Correspondent:: nenslo
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:08:20 -0800
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"Rev. Ivan Stang" wrote:
>
> In article <41E62433.FE726C99@yahoox.com>, nenslo
> wrote:
>
> > No I am not trying to raise the intellectual level of this newsgroup
> > because that is IMPOSSIBLE. Most of you are dumbasses who like nothing
> > more than debating the merits of the latest brainless movie spectacle in
> > which people in elaborate costumes equipped with highly advanced
> > technology get in fistfights with each other. A few of you, a very few
> > are the target audience for these posts and really enjoy a movie which
> > is well written and intelligent. It is to you I recommend "Illuminata."
> >
> > "Always wear nice underwear. I learned that too late."
>
> Plot Summary for
> Illuminata (1998)
>
> It's the start of the 20th century, and Tuccio, resident playwright of
> a theatre repertory company offers the owners of the company his new
> play, "Illuminata". They reject it, saying it's not finished, and
> intrigue starts that involves influential critic Bevalaqua, theatre
> star Celimene, young lead actors and other theatre residents.
>
> Influential critic "Bevalaqua!" AHAHAHAHA
1. It's not the plot; it's the dialogue, costumes, sets, relationships,
and ideas, and that cannot be summarized.
2. Bevalaqua is one of Christopher Walken's most amusing/disturbing performances.
3. Susan Sarandon with no shirt on.
Seriously, Stang, I think you'd be wasting your time with this one. No
offense. YA MORON.
Correspondent:: "Rev. Ivan Stang"
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:10:03 -0500
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In article <41E6FF64.12F6F6A4@yahoox.com>, nenslo
wrote:
> "Rev. Ivan Stang" wrote:
> >
> > In article <41E62433.FE726C99@yahoox.com>, nenslo
> > wrote:
> >
> > > No I am not trying to raise the intellectual level of this newsgroup
> > > because that is IMPOSSIBLE. Most of you are dumbasses who like nothing
> > > more than debating the merits of the latest brainless movie spectacle in
> > > which people in elaborate costumes equipped with highly advanced
> > > technology get in fistfights with each other. A few of you, a very few
> > > are the target audience for these posts and really enjoy a movie which
> > > is well written and intelligent. It is to you I recommend "Illuminata."
> > >
> > > "Always wear nice underwear. I learned that too late."
> >
> > Plot Summary for
> > Illuminata (1998)
> >
> > It's the start of the 20th century, and Tuccio, resident playwright of
> > a theatre repertory company offers the owners of the company his new
> > play, "Illuminata". They reject it, saying it's not finished, and
> > intrigue starts that involves influential critic Bevalaqua, theatre
> > star Celimene, young lead actors and other theatre residents.
> >
> > Influential critic "Bevalaqua!" AHAHAHAHA
>
> 1. It's not the plot; it's the dialogue, costumes, sets, relationships,
> and ideas, and that cannot be summarized.
Cannot, or WILL not?
> 2. Bevalaqua is one of Christopher Walken's most amusing/disturbing
> performances.
But it's spelled wrong.
> 3. Susan Sarandon with no shirt on.
Big whoop. Every third post in
alt.binaries.celebrities.nude.female.no-spam
I have better tits at home. So does my wife, for that matter.
>
> Seriously, Stang, I think you'd be wasting your time with this one. No
> offense. YA MORON.
Oh, YEAH? Oh, YEAH? Well, I'll... I'll SHOW YOU! I'll just show you.
Yeah. That's what I'll do. That's JUST what I'll do. 7 pm YOU KNOW
WHERE.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE DEALING WITH
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Correspondent:: Zapanaz
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:52:18 -0800
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:10:03 -0500, "Rev. Ivan Stang"
wrote:
>YOU DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE DEALING WITH
he doesn't even know whose tits he's dealing with.
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Correspondent:: Rev DJ Epoch
Date: 14 Jan 2005 13:56:55 GMT
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Zapanaz wrote in
news:2hueu0pq51m91ccedcfoa8o87djeu27hjt@4ax.com:
> On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:10:03 -0500, "Rev. Ivan Stang"
> wrote:
>
>>YOU DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE DEALING WITH
>
> he doesn't even know whose tits he's dealing with.
>
>
I'm just glad to see the focus of the church is getting away from poop and
back to TITS where it belongs!
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THAT STINKS TO HELL!!!"
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Correspondent:: HellPope Huey
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:19:41 GMT
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In article <2hueu0pq51m91ccedcfoa8o87djeu27hjt@4ax.com>,
Zapanaz wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:10:03 -0500, "Rev. Ivan Stang"
> wrote:
>
> >YOU DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE DEALING WITH
>
> he doesn't even know whose tits he's dealing with.
Probably IDRMeesterSeesteR's. They are retired and now just flopping
about freely. Its like an Animal Planet special on manatees, bloopidah
floop.
--
HellPope Huey
"You can't go out to play today, kids;
the Giant Flea Alert Level is at Orange."
"They say Democracy
is how we choose the guy who takes the blame."
- "The West Wing"
"Oh, the goddamned irony
that courses through the popular culture
like a cancer.
If nothing is serious anymore,
there's nothing left to satirize."
- Berkeley Breathed,
creator of "Bloom County"
Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:42:52 GMT
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"Rev. Ivan Stang" wrote:
>In article <41E6FF64.12F6F6A4@yahoox.com>, nenslo
>wrote:
>
>> "Rev. Ivan Stang" wrote:
>> >
>> > In article <41E62433.FE726C99@yahoox.com>, nenslo
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > No I am not trying to raise the intellectual level of this newsgroup
>> > > because that is IMPOSSIBLE. Most of you are dumbasses who like nothing
>> > > more than debating the merits of the latest brainless movie spectacle in
>> > > which people in elaborate costumes equipped with highly advanced
>> > > technology get in fistfights with each other. A few of you, a very few
>> > > are the target audience for these posts and really enjoy a movie which
>> > > is well written and intelligent. It is to you I recommend "Illuminata."
>> > >
>> > > "Always wear nice underwear. I learned that too late."
>> >
>> > Plot Summary for
>> > Illuminata (1998)
>> >
>> > It's the start of the 20th century, and Tuccio, resident playwright of
>> > a theatre repertory company offers the owners of the company his new
>> > play, "Illuminata". They reject it, saying it's not finished, and
>> > intrigue starts that involves influential critic Bevalaqua, theatre
>> > star Celimene, young lead actors and other theatre residents.
>> >
>> > Influential critic "Bevalaqua!" AHAHAHAHA
>>
>> 1. It's not the plot; it's the dialogue, costumes, sets, relationships,
>> and ideas, and that cannot be summarized.
>
>Cannot, or WILL not?
>
>> 2. Bevalaqua is one of Christopher Walken's most amusing/disturbing
>> performances.
>
>But it's spelled wrong.
>
>> 3. Susan Sarandon with no shirt on.
>
>Big whoop. Every third post in
>alt.binaries.celebrities.nude.female.no-spam
>
>I have better tits at home. So does my wife, for that matter.
>
>>
>> Seriously, Stang, I think you'd be wasting your time with this one. No
>> offense. YA MORON.
>
>Oh, YEAH? Oh, YEAH? Well, I'll... I'll SHOW YOU! I'll just show you.
>Yeah. That's what I'll do. That's JUST what I'll do. 7 pm YOU KNOW
>WHERE.
>
>YOU DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE DEALING WITH
>
Dealing with someone who ends sentences with prepositions!
So look out!
Anyway...
This homeboy gets a bassetball scholarship to go to college.
He decides to crack the books, and he's on his way to the liberry.
He can't find the building so he stops to ask directions of a fellow
student, "Hey, yo! Where's the liberry at?" The other student says,
"You shouldn't end a sentence with a preposition!" So, the b-ball
guy says, "OK, where's the liberry at, MOTHERFUCKER!?!?"
Correspondent:: Artemia Salina
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:45:13 -0500
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:10:03 -0500, Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
> YOU DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE DEALING WITH
The wrong motherfucker, obviously. I'd see him in court if I were you.
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Correspondent:: HellPope Huey
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:42:16 GMT
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In article ,
Artemia Salina wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:10:03 -0500, Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
>
> > YOU DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE DEALING WITH
>
> The wrong motherfucker, obviously. I'd see him in court if I were you.
And you never DO know until they show up at a Devival and in a sudden
rage, give you .38 caliber stigmata in both feet. People seem to have
forgotten about "Bob" himself being shot "dead" that way once. I guess
its time for a refresher course. It'd be really hilarious if J'Lahn and
Bob Dean showed up, mistook one another for Satang and did the obvious
thing. We'll all pee our damn asses for a month over the jpgs when it
happens. Why, people might even start being a little nicer online... for
72 HOURS, that is. EIEIEIEI*BANG*OW OW OW SHIT OW OW!!
--
HellPope Huey
"You can't go out to play today, kids;
the Giant Flea Alert Level is at Orange."
"They say Democracy
is how we choose the guy who takes the blame."
- "The West Wing"
"Oh, the goddamned irony
that courses through the popular culture
like a cancer.
If nothing is serious anymore,
there's nothing left to satirize."
- Berkeley Breathed,
creator of "Bloom County"
Correspondent:: Artemia Salina
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:17:00 -0500
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:42:16 +0000, HellPope Huey wrote:
> In article ,
> Artemia Salina wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:10:03 -0500, Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
>>
>> > YOU DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE DEALING WITH
>>
>> The wrong motherfucker, obviously. I'd see him in court if I were you.
>
> And you never DO know until they show up at a Devival and in a sudden
> rage, give you .38 caliber stigmata in both feet.
True. I know that sometimes I'm guilty of playing too rough on usenet.
I forget how many people out there have only the internet as their
source of self-esteem. Back before there were computers I used to fart
around on Citizen's Band radio. The majority of people there used to
fuck with each other mercilessly, at least in my area. I've also worked
in a Public Works Department for most of my adult life, and let me tell
you that sanitation workers and road crews don't exactly sit around reciting
Keats to each other. Anyway, I guess I bring those habits to usenet
sometimes.
Oh wait. I just remembered that you were the one complaining about those
women who refused to participate here because we weren't nice enough to
each other. I wonder where this newsgroup would wind up if we were all to
bow down to every whiner who came along, or to every gun toting psycho
who might or might not exist.
Hey, I know! Lets all live in abject fear of offending each other! That
should make for some interesting conversations.
> People seem to have
> forgotten about "Bob" himself being shot "dead" that way once. I guess
> its time for a refresher course. It'd be really hilarious if J'Lahn and
> Bob Dean showed up, mistook one another for Satang and did the obvious
> thing.
Why do you want to see those two get hurt? They just seem like a couple
of harmless nut bags to me. Annoying, yes, but still harmless enough.
Of course, I may not know them as well as you do, so I could be wrong.
Maybe you should be careful about what you say about them; they might
shoot you.
> We'll all pee our damn asses for a month over the jpgs when it
> happens. Why, people might even start being a little nicer online... for
> 72 HOURS, that is.
Nah, where would you draw the line at "being nice enough"? Who would
decide, the crazies, an independent panel recruited from alt.sewing,
the Taliban, Jerry Falwell?
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Correspondent:: HellPope Huey
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:35:36 GMT
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In article ,
Artemia Salina wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:42:16 +0000, HellPope Huey wrote:
> > And you never DO know until they show up at a Devival and in a sudden
> > rage, give you .38 caliber stigmata in both feet.
>>>>> Oh wait. I just remembered that you were the one complaining about
those women who refused to participate here because we weren't nice
enough to each other. I wonder where this newsgroup would wind up if we
were all to bow down to every whiner who came along, or to every gun
toting psycho who might or might not exist.
> > Hey, I know! Lets all live in abject fear of offending each other! That
> should make for some interesting conversations.
Heh, that's always the safe retort, but it wasn't the lack of "nice;"
it was the overwhelming flurry of icepick-jamming whut done it. YOU know
that drill.
There really is a line between namby-pamby passive-aggressive whiners,
proto-bullies who can only hold their own behind a screen with shit that
would never fly in person and interesting people who just came to
natter. Some days, its too much like a video game with no resolution;
your chain gun automatically reloads, more zombies pop up and
BUDDABUDDABUDDA some more. Its somewhat like the photographic negative
of Japan, where people are insanely polite in the streets, but their
comic books are a real gut-bath.
Slashing at that line with a machete before we've had that first cup of
coffee limits the playing field, that's all. Some folks just ain't happy
unless they've driven away all but those who will fight with them or
simply lurk. I think it limits the color palette, but that may be a moot
point in a group that is at its happiest when painting with feces or
blood. After all, most of us are just waiting to be seen in COURT,
toting our fecal and blood samples.
> > People seem to have
> > forgotten about "Bob" himself being shot "dead" that way once. I guess
> > its time for a refresher course. It'd be really hilarious if J'Lahn and
> > Bob Dean showed up, mistook one another for Satang and did the obvious
> > thing.
>>>>>>>> Why do you want to see those two get hurt? They just seem like
a couple of harmless nut bags to me. Annoying, yes, but still harmless
enough. Of course, I may not know them as well as you do, so I could be
wrong. Maybe you should be careful about what you say about them; they
might shoot you.
Naw, they'd blow their own feet off first, trying to load the guns.
> > We'll all pee our damn asses for a month over the jpgs when it
> > happens. Why, people might even start being a little nicer online... for
> > 72 HOURS, that is.
>>>>> Nah, where would you draw the line at "being nice enough"? Who
would decide, the crazies, an independent panel recruited from
alt.sewing, the Taliban, Jerry Falwell?
No, the nearest gunsmith. There IS a strata between saccharin and
disembowelment, but never mind that, just eat the nice brains. You never
know when that planarian worm thing might kick in. Yes, you could be the
one to develop the ScannerGland and turn the next Devival into a
reenactment of the gym scene from "Carrie." I'LL SEE YOUR BRAINS IN
*COURT*!
--
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"Wookie" is Mandarin Chinese for
"Big Knot On Your Privates."
"It doesn't help that they make us sleep upright.
We eat G.I. rations.
Worms are eating away at the skin of David's feet.
Its called Wormfoot. Chunks fall off."
- Bob Odenkirk
"It wasn't until I started reading and found books
they wouldn't let me read in school that I discovered
you could be insane and happy and have a good life
without being like everybody else."
- John Waters
Correspondent:: Artemia Salina
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:19:56 -0500
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:35:36 +0000, HellPope Huey wrote:
> There really is a line between namby-pamby passive-aggressive whiners,
> proto-bullies who can only hold their own behind a screen with shit that
> would never fly in person
The operative phrase here is "in person." This is not meat space.
IMO, that changes everything. I've been lambasted by the best on usenet,
and I just shrug it off, *because* it's usenet. It's interesting that people
should complain about usenet bullies. More than anywhere else people are
on equal terms on usenet. What can a usenet bully do except to say things
that others don't like, and why is it not good enough that those people
fire back with things that the bully won't like? I'm just wondering out
loud here. Is it because they think that their words won't have an effect
on the bully? Why not? Maybe more people should do whatever it is that the
bullies do to be unaffected by other's words.
> and interesting people who just came to
> natter.
Yeah, Cardinal Vertigo thought he was interesting. Where'd he go anyway?
> Some days, its too much like a video game with no resolution;
> your chain gun automatically reloads, more zombies pop up and
> BUDDABUDDABUDDA some more.
Oh c'mon now; ICEKNIFE hasn't been here in ages.
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Correspondent:: HellPope Huey
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:15:05 GMT
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In article ,
Artemia Salina wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:35:36 +0000, HellPope Huey wrote:
>
> > There really is a line between namby-pamby passive-aggressive whiners,
> > proto-bullies who can only hold their own behind a screen with shit that
> > would never fly in person
>>>>>>> The operative phrase here is "in person." This is not meat space.
> IMO, that changes everything. I've been lambasted by the best on usenet,
> and I just shrug it off, *because* it's usenet. It's interesting that people
> should complain about usenet bullies. More than anywhere else people are
> on equal terms on usenet.
Well, that's a "fair point," but only up TO a point. My ex suggested
that I write a book about the Usenet experience and for a moment, it
seemed like an amusing idea, since people love sensationalistic,
voyeuristic, tell-all bitch-slap-fight stuff better'n ANYTHING but food,
air and pootchka. However, I quickly decided it would be about as
appealing as doing my own hernia repair under a local and smell too much
like sour grapes, uppityism and 2-weeks-overdue-for-changin' shoe
inserts.
If it was on "equal terms," certain more interesting folks would not
have disappeared and guys like J'Lahn would have been shown the door by
force ages ago. Usenet IS just a glorified hobby and people's real lives
supersede it at times, but sometimes the Ugly makes it a null game that
leads to less input by some you'd LIKE to see staying in the game.
The Net has brought a completely different DYNAMIC to human
wretchedness and creativity, both. Its just a bit of a drag to see that
so many use it to jump hell out of others and claim its a joke.
Ultimately, that's just an expression of often disheartening anger and
cowardice. It blunts the fun. So yeah, you ARE right, technically, but
I have seen things here spill over INTO meat-space and fuck it with big
red straps, as well as seen 15 honest minutes face-to-face mend big rips
and cement worthwhile friendships.
> What can a usenet bully do except to say things
> that others don't like, and why is it not good enough that those people
> fire back with things that the bully won't like?
For the same reason that when someone gets drunk at a meat-space party
and punches another in the face, it tends to screw the innocent who were
of good will and made for welcome guests. But hey, eating the flesh of
others is Our Way and when Jesus comes back, all of us "Good People"
will be taken up to Hebbin in a loverly 40s club car on a goooooolden
train and yackity blithery fuckity flangeola.
> > and interesting people who just came to
> > natter.
>>>>>> Yeah, Cardinal Vertigo thought he was interesting. Where'd he go
anyway?
> @@@
> > Some days, its too much like a video game with no resolution;
> > your chain gun automatically reloads, more zombies pop up and
> > BUDDABUDDABUDDA some more.
>>>>> Oh c'mon now; ICEKNIFE hasn't been here in ages.
iceknife ran over him in his Cushman Eagle and served his flesh at the
Methodist Xmas party in Shitmouth, Tennesseee.
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I killed it, I cooked it & I'm eatin' it
"A group of white South Africans
recently killed a black lawyer
because he was black. That was wrong.
They should have killed him because he was a lawyer."
- A. Whitney Brown
Something like a cross between the X-Men,
Snowball the Signing Gorilla
and a Chunkendale.
A wondrous wad of exotic intent in 13E brogans.
Howyadoin'?
- H. P. Huey
Correspondent:: Artemia Salina
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:03:44 -0500
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:15:05 +0000, HellPope Huey wrote:
> Well, that's a "fair point," but only up TO a point. My ex suggested
> that I write a book about the Usenet experience and for a moment, it
> seemed like an amusing idea, since people love sensationalistic,
> voyeuristic, tell-all bitch-slap-fight stuff better'n ANYTHING but food,
> air and pootchka. However, I quickly decided it would be about as
> appealing as doing my own hernia repair under a local and smell too much
> like sour grapes, uppityism and 2-weeks-overdue-for-changin' shoe
> inserts.
Well if you wrote a book on ANY subject, IN THAT STYLE, I'd sure buy
a copy... Ok, I lied. I'd wait till someone ELSE bought a copy and
OCRed it onto a.b.s. But I'd READ it, yes I would.
> If it was on "equal terms," certain more interesting folks would not
> have disappeared and guys like J'Lahn would have been shown the door by
> force ages ago.
The question is, why do *some* interesting people leave and other
interesting people stay? What was it that Elenore Roosevelt said
about insults? Something about giving power to others. If you expect
people to say things here that they wouldn't say face-to-face then
you preemptively knock the wind out of their sails. It's a matter of
attitude. If you LET someone insult you here, then as harsh as it
sounds, it's your problem since you did the letting. An example
would be Bodhisatva Troutwaxer. I think he left in part because
I was critical of him. I also remember him freaking out one time when
Legume pulled his leg. He took this shit WAY too seriously.
As far as giving J'lahn the heave-hoe is concerned it's a simple
matter to killfile him. Problem solved, unless it sticks in your
craw that you weren't able to punish him somehow. And if you're
worried about newcomers getting blind-sided by his drivel I have
only to point out how quickly new posters peg those such as purple
as being not worth their time.
> Usenet IS just a glorified hobby and people's real lives
> supersede it at times, but sometimes the Ugly makes it a null game that
> leads to less input by some you'd LIKE to see staying in the game.
So email-um and show-um how to use their killfiles-um.
Calling for niceness is a vain pursuit; those who don't want
to be nice won't be, and no amount of guilt trips or threats
will change that.
> The Net has brought a completely different DYNAMIC to human
> wretchedness and creativity, both. Its just a bit of a drag to see that
> so many use it to jump hell out of others and claim its a joke.
> Ultimately, that's just an expression of often disheartening anger and
> cowardice.
It's also safe, as in a nerf sword fight.
> I have seen things here spill over INTO meat-space and fuck it with big
> red straps,
This is the fault of the person who took it into meat-space.
> as well as seen 15 honest minutes face-to-face mend big rips
> and cement worthwhile friendships.
This has been my experience with CB radio, which is a lot like usenet
except much more local; you're much more apt to run into someone
face-to-face from CB than from usenet. Many times I've seen people
call each other out, only to crack a grin when they meet and turn
out to become friends.
This has happened to me several times. It can be amazing how those we
hate most are those who we share qualities with.
>> What can a usenet bully do except to say things
>> that others don't like, and why is it not good enough that those people
>> fire back with things that the bully won't like?
>
> For the same reason that when someone gets drunk at a meat-space party
> and punches another in the face, it tends to screw the innocent who were
> of good will and made for welcome guests.
You see, you keep likening usenet to real life. They're very different
from each other. No one can punch anyone here; we're just cross-eyed
ghosts shooting blanks at each other.
However, there are those who seem to LIKE to take things on the nose.
I think they should be obliged whenever possible. There are moderated
newsgroups and email lists for those who are too sensitive for usenet.
Why try to force usenet into being something it's not? It'd be more
productive to try to milk a watermelon.
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Correspondent:: HellPope Huey
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:15:24 GMT
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Artemia Salina wrote:
> Well if you wrote a book on ANY subject, IN THAT STYLE, I'd sure buy
> a copy... Ok, I lied. I'd wait till someone ELSE bought a copy and
> OCRed it onto a.b.s. But I'd READ it, yes I would.
A large portion of why I never even opened a new file to put the
starter notes in, EIEIEIEIE.
> The question is, why do *some* interesting people leave and other
> interesting people stay? ...... It's a matter of
> attitude. If you LET someone insult you here, then as harsh as it
> sounds, it's your problem since you did the letting.
Oooo, you'll never get into Hebbin with THAT attitude.
> An example
> would be Bodhisatva Troutwaxer. I think he left in part because
> I was critical of him. I also remember him freaking out one time when
> Legume pulled his leg. He took this shit WAY too seriously.
(shrug) If somebody keyed yer car and called it a joke, would you laugh
at it? I guess I allow myself to retain a small portion of CrankyPants
because several prime "leg-pullers" in the group have gone ballistic
when the joke was suddenly on them. Y'can't hang out in a faux cult that
claims there are no boundaries and then puff up and act like someone
crossed a line if they suddenly bug YOU, as you point out. At that
point, its a study in psychopathology with a Ramones soundtrack. Man, if
*I* really let go, someone WOULD track me down with a Glock. You just
don't knoooowww, heh heh heh heh heh....
Besides, right around then, Trout' got a new computer-y job, his nice
wife had an operation and his Yetified kids got older & more
challenging, all of which understandably became more important time-wise
than what Nenslo had to say about the current going rate for kidneys in
India. People simply outgrow things from time to time.
> As far as giving J'lahn the heave-hoe is concerned it's a simple
> matter to killfile him. Problem solved, unless it sticks in your
> craw that you weren't able to punish him somehow. And if you're
> worried about newcomers getting blind-sided by his drivel I have
> only to point out how quickly new posters peg those such as purple
> as being not worth their time.
Hulk like killfile.
> > I have seen things here spill over INTO meat-space and fuck it with big
> > red straps,
>>>>>> This is the fault of the person who took it into meat-space.
*Must* *not* *fall for* straight line*
> This has been my experience with CB radio, which is a lot like usenet
> except much more local; you're much more apt to run into someone
> face-to-face from CB than from usenet. Many times I've seen people
> call each other out, only to crack a grin when they meet and turn
> out to become friends.
Yeah, that's part of the deal; unless you live in the northeastern
corridor, that rarely happens in the group. Its mostly scattered folk
from all over. Too bad, as it'd prolly be more fun.
> > For the same reason that when someone gets drunk at a meat-space party
> > and punches another in the face, it tends to screw the innocent who were
> > of good will and made for welcome guests.
>>>>>> You see, you keep likening usenet to real life. They're very
different from each other. No one can punch anyone here; we're just
cross-eyed ghosts shooting blanks at each other.
Oh, then my brain ISN'T real, nor is yours. God BLESS you, you've
greatly brightened my day, Selena. Wait a minute, you died. That's sure
a shame; I was hoping your singing career would peak and then drop off
badly enough that you started selling pics of yourself in the buff.
Those droopy brown udders would have made great templates for Martha
Stewart pillows.
> However, there are those who seem to LIKE to take things on the nose.
> I think they should be obliged whenever possible. There are moderated
> newsgroups and email lists for those who are too sensitive for usenet.
> Why try to force usenet into being something it's not? It'd be more
> productive to try to milk a watermelon.
Stroking their sensuous veggie nipples gives me wood.
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HellPope Huey
I killed it, I cooked it & I'm eatin' it
"A group of white South Africans
recently killed a black lawyer
because he was black. That was wrong.
They should have killed him because he was a lawyer."
- A. Whitney Brown
Something like a cross between the X-Men,
Snowball the Signing Gorilla
and a Chunkendale.
A wondrous wad of exotic intent in 13E brogans.
Howyadoin'?
- H. P. Huey
Correspondent:: "The Rev. Dr. Lt. Chaos Israel"
Date: 16 Jan 2005 13:55:31 -0800
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Artemia Salina wrote:
>
> Hey, I know! Lets all live in abject fear of offending each other!
That
> should make for some interesting conversations.
>
>
Welcome to Seattle.