Proof that Mr Kamikaze doesn't have to work too hard to weed out the
unworthy!
Correspondent:: Zapanaz Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:18:14 -0800
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On 31 Jan 2005 11:53:57 -0800, "splendid_blond_beast"
wrote:
>>
>> http://hometown.aol.com/base194/myhomepage/base_fatality_list
>
>Proof that Mr Kamikaze doesn't have to work too hard to weed out the
>unworthy!
Fortune favors the bold!
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
It should come to you like a bolt from the blue. Like you are
juggling cats and all of a sudden one of them blows up.
Correspondent:: "Rev. ErRoR" Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 18:03:05 GMT
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Hope you an Wei can make it this year there's a damn fine chance I'll
be going (thanks to Santa) and it would be nice to see you there !
Err
"A very popular error: having the courage of one's convictions; rather
it is a matter of having the courage for an attack on one's
convictions."
Friedrich Nietzsche
In article <310120051726173048%stang@subgeniusNOSPUM.com>, Rev. Ivan
Stang wrote:
> In article <9f5tv0t4vbk8dp1ldsehjjd7j24kks1u96@4ax.com>, IMBJR
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:03:43 -0500, in reply to "Rev. Ivan Stang"
> > :
> >
> > >My daughter called me this morning, said her buddy was looking at
> > >movies on ifilm.com and came upon a movie about Burning Man that "shows
> > >your dad's logo and a bunch of your dad's friends and a lot of
> > >titties."
> >
> > She said "titties"?
> >
>
> That may be merely the way my mind interpretted it. She may well have
> said "a lot of nudity". To me it's a cute, innocent, dumb, childlike
> word, but it's hard to get some ladies to say "titties." Um, so to
> speak. I knew a guy who supposedly would get hard by slyly prompting
> ladies to talk about their titties and other body parts. OR SO THE
> LADIES SAID. It might possibly have been wishful thinking on their
> "parts." I WASN'T THERE.
>
> I read that some of the old-timer Burning Man participants, have become
> so angered at the growth and inevitable creeping Pinkness of the event
> that they are throwing an ALTERNATE Burning Man. What takes some of the
> jizz out of their splursh is that they are holding the Alternative
> Burning Man AT Burning Man. So the distinction may be lost on some
> people. It's certainly muddled for me. Are they saying that inside
> their mini-event, it'll be permissible to, say, set yourself on fire
> and blow yourself up for art, WITHOUT a permit?
>
> I read this in a news article mailed me by Puzzling Evidence, often a
> Burning Man Ranger (or "security"). The main person griping was my
> friend Chicken John, Dr. Hal's frequent partner in thoughtcrime. I've
> only been to two Burning Men and I don't know all the inside poop but
> so far, as a weirdo-fest organizer myself, albeit way small-time in
> comparison, I identify more with the Larry Harvey and BORG side. (Larry
> is the guy who kinda started BM and has kept it going; BORG stands for
> Burning Man organisation, possibly a play on the Scientologist Sea
> Org.) The Alternative BM guys are calling themselves BORG2. For a
> schizm it seems like a relatively peaceful one.
>
> I wish to South Heck that Wei and I could be planning to go to BM this
> year... and BY GOBBS, MAYBE WE CAN! Since I wasn't at BM before it
> became "too popular," in my ignorance it still seems to me like the
> most psychedelic party in the world. And I've been to Mardi Gras,
> Carnival, the Running of the Bulls, nine X-Day Drills and a Jimi
> Hendrix concert, so I have some basis for comparison.
>
> I realize that the most psychedelic party in the world is not
> everyone's idea of a good time.
>
> Luckily, the fact that it's in the middle of the Black Rock playa still
> serves to keep out a lot of dilletantes and riffraff. Apparently it
> isn't detering enough riffraff for the Old Timer Riff Raff, though.
Correspondent:: Pope Phil Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 12:40:00 +0000 (UTC)
--------
Sister Penny and I are still VERY interested in heading to Burning Man this year
Monteeeee
Rev. ErRoR wrote:
> Hope you an Wei can make it this year there's a damn fine chance I'll
> be going (thanks to Santa) and it would be nice to see you there !
>
> Err
>
> "A very popular error: having the courage of one's convictions; rather
> it is a matter of having the courage for an attack on one's
> convictions."
> Friedrich Nietzsche
>
> In article <310120051726173048%stang@subgeniusNOSPUM.com>, Rev. Ivan
> Stang wrote:
>
>
>>In article <9f5tv0t4vbk8dp1ldsehjjd7j24kks1u96@4ax.com>, IMBJR
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:03:43 -0500, in reply to "Rev. Ivan Stang"
>>>:
>>>
>>>
>>>>My daughter called me this morning, said her buddy was looking at
>>>>movies on ifilm.com and came upon a movie about Burning Man that "shows
>>>>your dad's logo and a bunch of your dad's friends and a lot of
>>>>titties."
>>>
>>>She said "titties"?
>>>
>>
>>That may be merely the way my mind interpretted it. She may well have
>>said "a lot of nudity". To me it's a cute, innocent, dumb, childlike
>>word, but it's hard to get some ladies to say "titties." Um, so to
>>speak. I knew a guy who supposedly would get hard by slyly prompting
>>ladies to talk about their titties and other body parts. OR SO THE
>>LADIES SAID. It might possibly have been wishful thinking on their
>>"parts." I WASN'T THERE.
>>
>>I read that some of the old-timer Burning Man participants, have become
>>so angered at the growth and inevitable creeping Pinkness of the event
>>that they are throwing an ALTERNATE Burning Man. What takes some of the
>>jizz out of their splursh is that they are holding the Alternative
>>Burning Man AT Burning Man. So the distinction may be lost on some
>>people. It's certainly muddled for me. Are they saying that inside
>>their mini-event, it'll be permissible to, say, set yourself on fire
>>and blow yourself up for art, WITHOUT a permit?
>>
>>I read this in a news article mailed me by Puzzling Evidence, often a
>>Burning Man Ranger (or "security"). The main person griping was my
>>friend Chicken John, Dr. Hal's frequent partner in thoughtcrime. I've
>>only been to two Burning Men and I don't know all the inside poop but
>>so far, as a weirdo-fest organizer myself, albeit way small-time in
>>comparison, I identify more with the Larry Harvey and BORG side. (Larry
>>is the guy who kinda started BM and has kept it going; BORG stands for
>>Burning Man organisation, possibly a play on the Scientologist Sea
>>Org.) The Alternative BM guys are calling themselves BORG2. For a
>>schizm it seems like a relatively peaceful one.
>>
>>I wish to South Heck that Wei and I could be planning to go to BM this
>>year... and BY GOBBS, MAYBE WE CAN! Since I wasn't at BM before it
>>became "too popular," in my ignorance it still seems to me like the
>>most psychedelic party in the world. And I've been to Mardi Gras,
>>Carnival, the Running of the Bulls, nine X-Day Drills and a Jimi
>>Hendrix concert, so I have some basis for comparison.
>>
>>I realize that the most psychedelic party in the world is not
>>everyone's idea of a good time.
>>
>>Luckily, the fact that it's in the middle of the Black Rock playa still
>>serves to keep out a lot of dilletantes and riffraff. Apparently it
>>isn't detering enough riffraff for the Old Timer Riff Raff, though.
Correspondent:: "Rev. Ivan Stang" Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:02:12 -0500
--------
In article , Pope Phil
wrote:
> Sister Penny and I are still VERY interested in heading to Burning Man this
> year
>
>
HA! But you STILL can't talk us out of going! In fact this STRENGTHENS
our resolve to somehow attend!
BY THE WAY, Pope Phil, Wei and I finally but an evening aside, watched
three episodes of BRASS EYE, and ABOUT LAK TO SHIT!!
God DAMN!! That guy is the greatest comedy hoaxter since HELL, I DON'T
KNOW WHO!
And a master of disguises! Which means he can be more than one
ShorDurPerSav. TRICKY!
No shit, I was blown away and FILLED with intense jealousy and envy
when I saw that show. He and Penn and Teller should all get married and
have babies. It would be the New Race of really funny bullshitters.
--
The SubGenius Foundation, Inc.
(4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected, Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.)
P.O. Box 181417, Cleveland, OH 44118 (fax 216-320-9528)
Dobbs-Approved Authorized Commercial Outreach of The Church of the SubGenius
SubSITE: http://www.subgenius.com PRABOB
Correspondent:: Pope Phil Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 17:58:26 +0000 (UTC)
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then you also need to see THE DAY TODAY, and JAAAAAM. see http://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/ for
Chris Morris stuff, including downloads of his first major success ON THE HOUR from BBC Radio4
http://chilled.cream.org/forums/onthehour.php
morris is my LONG TERM ShorDurPerSav
Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
> In article , Pope Phil
> wrote:
>
>
>>Sister Penny and I are still VERY interested in heading to Burning Man this
>>year
>>
>>
>
>
> HA! But you STILL can't talk us out of going! In fact this STRENGTHENS
> our resolve to somehow attend!
>
> BY THE WAY, Pope Phil, Wei and I finally but an evening aside, watched
> three episodes of BRASS EYE, and ABOUT LAK TO SHIT!!
>
> God DAMN!! That guy is the greatest comedy hoaxter since HELL, I DON'T
> KNOW WHO!
>
> And a master of disguises! Which means he can be more than one
> ShorDurPerSav. TRICKY!
>
> No shit, I was blown away and FILLED with intense jealousy and envy
> when I saw that show. He and Penn and Teller should all get married and
> have babies. It would be the New Race of really funny bullshitters.
>
Correspondent:: Pope Phil Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 18:02:34 +0000 (UTC)
--------
and REMEMBER:
CAKE IS A MADE UP DRUG!
Pope Phil wrote:
> then you also need to see THE DAY TODAY, and JAAAAAM. see
> http://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/ for Chris Morris stuff, including
> downloads of his first major success ON THE HOUR from BBC Radio4
> http://chilled.cream.org/forums/onthehour.php
>
>
> morris is my LONG TERM ShorDurPerSav
>
> Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
Correspondent:: "Rev. Ivan Stang" Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 10:58:35 -0500
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In article <020220051803054538%error@priest.SPAMcom>, Rev. ErRoR
wrote:
> Hope you an Wei can make it this year there's a damn fine chance I'll
> be going (thanks to Santa) and it would be nice to see you there !
>
I know your tricks! But we refuse to let this deter us from going!
--
The SubGenius Foundation, Inc.
(4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected, Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.)
P.O. Box 181417, Cleveland, OH 44118 (fax 216-320-9528)
Dobbs-Approved Authorized Commercial Outreach of The Church of the SubGenius
SubSITE: http://www.subgenius.com PRABOB
Correspondent:: Pope Phil Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 17:59:01 +0000 (UTC)
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shall we bring THE BEER? :-)
Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
> In article <020220051803054538%error@priest.SPAMcom>, Rev. ErRoR
> wrote:
>
>
>>Hope you an Wei can make it this year there's a damn fine chance I'll
>>be going (thanks to Santa) and it would be nice to see you there !
>>
>
>
> I know your tricks! But we refuse to let this deter us from going!
>
Correspondent:: "Rev. ErRoR" Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 18:35:31 GMT
--------
In article , Pope Phil
wrote:
> shall we bring THE BEER? :-)
>
> Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
> > In article <020220051803054538%error@priest.SPAMcom>, Rev. ErRoR
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hope you an Wei can make it this year there's a damn fine chance I'll
> >>be going (thanks to Santa) and it would be nice to see you there !
> >>
> >
> >
> > I know your tricks! But we refuse to let this deter us from going!
> >
Ooh Titter ye not !
err.
--
An error is the more dangerous the more truth it contains.
Henri-Frédéric Amiel
Correspondent:: "nu-monet v7.0" Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:23:36 -0700
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Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
>
> ...Sure enough, somebody submitted a Quicktime
> movie that used to be on SubSITE that I made
> from STILLS and video frame-grabs shot by Wei
> and me at Burning Man 2001, with music by Lamprey
> Systems.
I remember the script for the SUBGENIUS PORNO MOVIE
from a while back. Someone should do a cheap video
like that and submit it to IFILM.
I think the British SubGenii should do that. People
would watch it solely because of their accents. And
the best part is that there really isn't a need for
merehume sex in the movie, if you've got enough
scenes of wall outlets, bugs, and squid.
And, of course, it would mostly be a promotional.
Hell, you would get a ton of views if it just showed
a cow chewing its cud, but was titled SubGenius Porn
Movie! It's a GOOD thing when expectations are low.
--
"If you can't be the head, don't be
the backside because there is nothing
there but a tail."
-- Saddam Hussein
Correspondent:: HellPope Huey Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 20:33:41 GMT
--------
In article <42011AA8.30E8@succeeds.com>,
"nu-monet v7.0" wrote:
> Hell, you would get a ton of views if it just showed
> a cow chewing its cud, but was titled SubGenius Porn
> Movie! It's a GOOD thing when expectations are low.
Even you might be slightly disturbed to see how many of the group got
wood watching that. They start out in "good families," but somewhere
along the way, a special SWITCH gets flipped and voila, instant
willie-flogging sociopath. Half of them retain their membership cards,
too. Its amazing that no one has gone bonkers and had the inspection of
their wallets lead to mention of the Church on the news. Aside from that
DOG incident a few years back, its been really quiet. Ooo baby, gimme
your hot, hot cud, shlurp.
--
HellPope Huey
Head waiter at Madame La CaCa's House of Monkey
"To be too conscious is an illness,
a real throughgoing illness."
- Fyodor Dostoevski
"We coulda been anything that we wanted to be,
with all the talent we had;
with a little training, we mastered complaining;
manners seemed unnecessary,
we're so rude its almost scary!
We coulda been anything that we wanted to be
and don't it make your heart glad?
With a little practice, we made every blacklist!
We're the very best at being bad!"
- "Bugsy Malone"
Correspondent:: "Rev. Ivan Stang" Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:13:28 -0500
--------
In article ,
HellPope Huey wrote:
> They start out in "good families," but somewhere
> along the way, a special SWITCH gets flipped and voila, instant
> willie-flogging sociopath. Half of them retain their membership cards,
> too. Its amazing that no one has gone bonkers and had the inspection of
> their wallets lead to mention of the Church on the news. Aside from that
> DOG incident a few years back, its been really quiet.
That has not come cheap.
--
The SubGenius Foundation, Inc.
(4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected, Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.)
P.O. Box 181417, Cleveland, OH 44118 (fax 216-320-9528)
Dobbs-Approved Authorized Commercial Outreach of The Church of the SubGenius
SubSITE: http://www.subgenius.com PRABOB
Correspondent:: HellPope Huey Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 02:03:50 GMT
--------
In article <030220051113286362%stang@subgeniusNOSPUM.com>,
"Rev. Ivan Stang" wrote:
> In article ,
> HellPope Huey wrote:
>
> > They start out in "good families," but somewhere
> > along the way, a special SWITCH gets flipped and voila, instant
> > willie-flogging sociopath. Half of them retain their membership cards,
> > too. Its amazing that no one has gone bonkers and had the inspection of
> > their wallets lead to mention of the Church on the news. Aside from that
> > DOG incident a few years back, its been really quiet.
>
> That has not come cheap.
Gee, so that's why you couldn't go out and just buy another car. I'm
sorry, I'll send in some more money soon, so that when "Bob" gets his
98%, there's more OF a 2% left for you. That's just not right.
--
HellPope Huey
Well I'll be dipped in caramel
and licked clean by blind lesbians
as long as I don't giggle
or have one accidentally feel my beard or my uh oh
"For flavor, instant sex will never supersede
the stuff you have to peel and cook."
~ Quentin Crisp
"If I don't get my tantric sex
on oxycontin, I just can't go on!"
- Jon Stewart
Correspondent:: Selfs Layer Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 07:18:37 GMT
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On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:23:36 -0700, "nu-monet v7.0"
quipped and warbled and generally subthunk:
>Hell, you would get a ton of views if it just showed
>a cow chewing its cud, but was titled SubGenius Porn
>Movie! It's a GOOD thing when expectations are low.
Well, besides "Arise! The SubGenius", my two most popular downloads on
eXeem so far are "SomethingNewToDieFor_SubGenius_sex_umentary.mpg" and
"Videodumb___Videodrome_SubGenius_remix_by_nu-monet_n_pussy.avi".
Can't figure out why!
- Saigneur Selfs Layer, KKP, the dude at the door who acts really poor
(and who wouldn't know you if you stuck a firecracker up his bum on Bastille Day)
Pope Pourri et Ponce de la France, Prince of the One Way E(x)ternal Reich(POW POW POW!), Soleil Eternel de la Verité du Poo-poo...
Correspondent:: "Rev. Ivan Stang" Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:18:27 -0500
--------
In article , Selfs Layer
wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:23:36 -0700, "nu-monet v7.0"
> quipped and warbled and generally subthunk:
>
> >Hell, you would get a ton of views if it just showed
> >a cow chewing its cud, but was titled SubGenius Porn
> >Movie! It's a GOOD thing when expectations are low.
>
> Well, besides "Arise! The SubGenius", my two most popular downloads on
> eXeem so far are "SomethingNewToDieFor_SubGenius_sex_umentary.mpg" and
> "Videodumb___Videodrome_SubGenius_remix_by_nu-monet_n_pussy.avi".
>
> Can't figure out why!
>
?? What is eXeem? Seriously. New p2p thing?
I guess I could look it up. I'm getting too lazy to click.
I am fixing to embark on another movie-posting crusade. This time I'm
going to post the stuff to the more popular ngs like a.b.divX and
a.b.svcd. Apparently a.b.monter-movies is practically impossible to
tune in unless you're using Giganews. (Or am I wrong about that?)
Hell maybe I should just dump some of these to iFilm and see what
happens.
--
The SubGenius Foundation, Inc.
(4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected, Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.)
P.O. Box 181417, Cleveland, OH 44118 (fax 216-320-9528)
Dobbs-Approved Authorized Commercial Outreach of The Church of the SubGenius
SubSITE: http://www.subgenius.com PRABOB
Correspondent:: Selfs Layer Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 19:43:49 GMT
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On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:18:27 -0500, "Rev. Ivan Stang"
quipped and warbled and generally
subthunk:
>?? What is eXeem? Seriously. New p2p thing?
SuprNova.org went down in December and many bittorrent sites went down
at the same time. MPAA persecution. eXeem is the successor to
SuprNova, and allows you to seed 25 files from your own computer. I'm
doing that with the last couple Hours of Slack, as well as Arise, Day
of the SubGenius, and Something Now to Die For.
>I guess I could look it up. I'm getting too lazy to click.
www.exeem.com. Watch out for Cydoor, which unfortunately comes along
with it. There's an eXeemLite without Cydoor here:
http://www.exeemlite.tk/
The only problem is that eXeem is still very new and doesn't have a
lot of files (and isn't as fast as bittorrent crap usually is).
However, I've had more downloads of my own music and of SubGenius and
Skinny Puppy videos that I ever had on other p2p proggies, apparently
due to the fact that it's still pretty new and people are looking for
things, anythings, to download.
What else am I going to do with my bandwidth?
>I am fixing to embark on another movie-posting crusade. This time I'm
>going to post the stuff to the more popular ngs like a.b.divX and
>a.b.svcd. Apparently a.b.monter-movies is practically impossible to
>tune in unless you're using Giganews. (Or am I wrong about that?)
>
>Hell maybe I should just dump some of these to iFilm and see what
>happens.
I'll see which ones I can seed and post the links. And by the way,
Easynews also allows pretty good access to a.b.m-m (but maybe shorter
duration than Giganews).
Here are links to the SubGenius videos I'm sharing:
exeem://14/8f36b4162ef312eb0f6bc1502e093ea285ff3c75/ARISE, the
SubGenius.avi
exeem://15/d6d4d57f5862c7c29eec65d248cb10efb8e5d1c4/Day of the
SubGenius.mpg
exeem://82/9b64e32e1dfcd9ae99134457ca1348eba9f897fb/SomethingNewToDieFor_SubGenius_sex_umentary.mpg
- Saigneur Selfs Layer, KKP, the dude at the door who acts really poor
(and who wouldn't know you if you stuck a firecracker up his bum on Bastille Day)
Pope Pourri et Ponce de la France, Prince of the One Way E(x)ternal Reich(POW POW POW!), Soleil Eternel de la Verité du Poo-poo...
Correspondent:: "Rev. Ivan Stang" Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:12:05 -0500
--------
In article <42011AA8.30E8@succeeds.com>, nu-monet v7.0
wrote:
> Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
> >
> > ...Sure enough, somebody submitted a Quicktime
> > movie that used to be on SubSITE that I made
> > from STILLS and video frame-grabs shot by Wei
> > and me at Burning Man 2001, with music by Lamprey
> > Systems.
>
> I remember the script for the SUBGENIUS PORNO MOVIE
> from a while back. Someone should do a cheap video
> like that and submit it to IFILM.
>
> I think the British SubGenii should do that. People
> would watch it solely because of their accents. And
> the best part is that there really isn't a need for
> merehume sex in the movie, if you've got enough
> scenes of wall outlets, bugs, and squid.
>
> And, of course, it would mostly be a promotional.
>
> Hell, you would get a ton of views if it just showed
> a cow chewing its cud, but was titled SubGenius Porn
> Movie! It's a GOOD thing when expectations are low.
Where did you say one could download those cud flicks? URL?
--
The SubGenius Foundation, Inc.
(4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected, Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.)
P.O. Box 181417, Cleveland, OH 44118 (fax 216-320-9528)
Dobbs-Approved Authorized Commercial Outreach of The Church of the SubGenius
SubSITE: http://www.subgenius.com PRABOB
Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 14:27:21 GMT
--------
"Rev. Ivan Stang" wrote:
>My daughter called me this morning, said her buddy was looking at
>movies on ifilm.com and came upon a movie about Burning Man that "shows
>your dad's logo and a bunch of your dad's friends and a lot of
>titties."
>
>Sure enough, somebody submitted a Quicktime movie that used to be on
>SubSITE that I made from STILLS and video frame-grabs shot by Wei and
>me at Burning Man...
Burning Man artist's project extinguished in San Rafael
City says sanctuary for day laborers must come down after property owner complains
- Leslie Fulbright, Chronicle Staff Writer
Wednesday, February 2, 2005
Burning Man's renowned temple-builder, David Best, was one day from
completing a towering art project dedicated to the day laborers in San Rafael's
canal district when the city decided it was all too much.
"The Chapel of the Laborer," a small-scale version of the respected
plywood structures that Best builds for the weeklong festival in the Nevada
desert and then burns in remembrance of the dead, was to be a temporary
sanctuary where Latinos could gather, pray or light a candle for loved ones.
One of six pieces in a new exhibit titled "Offerings and Sanctuaries,"
the chapel sits on a busy corner in front of a Mexican grocery store
on Bellam Boulevard. It was created from scraps donated by a company
that makes wooden toys, and it has a bench, shrine and large ceramic Madonna.
Best spent a month prepping for the piece, and a 30-member crew worked four
days to erect it.
But this week the city received a complaint and ordered Best to stop
construction immediately. Yellow caution tape now lines the front of the
30- foot-tall structure, and a stop-work order sits near the Virgin Mary's hand.
The grumbling was coming from the property owner, worried that the
Nevada craziness would not work at all in the city.
"She went ballistic," said Best, of Petaluma, who will begin today
ripping down the structure, which sits in a grassy area near the store
entrance. "I had no intention of burning it at all."
Leo Haginicols, who with his mother owns the site, said the family
is not against artwork or worship. But they were concerned that Best
might burn down the structure.
Although the woman who leases the Bellam Produce Market
approved the project, the property owner did not. Haginicols
said the tenant should have asked before giving Best the green light.
"We didn't authorize or know about this until we drove by and it was
30 feet in the air," Haginicols said. "Our main concern is the liability,
having public art on private property and candles inside a wooden structure.
"They can put it in a park, no problem."
But Best doesn't want to put it in a park. He was excited about the
market location because of the crowds of day laborers who gather
in front of the store each day. And, as far as he knew, everything
had been approved.
"I wanted to break into a poor community, to build a central location
where the laborers could reflect," said Best, adding that he will not
rebuild the chapel somewhere else. "But the city has made us all illegal --
the Virgin Mary, the day laborers and me."
Julie Long, who leases the market, would not comment on the controversy
but started to cry at the thought of the piece being removed.
"I've been here seven years and wanted to give back," she said.
"(Locals) have treated me with nothing but respect here, and they
were so excited about this."
The chapel was one of six pieces in Art Works Downtown's new exhibit,
two on public property, the rest on private land.
Phyllis Thelen, president of the nonprofit art association, said this is its
first venture beyond the gallery walls. She said that although the city was
very helpful with finding locations and getting permits, officials had no choice
but to condemn Best's project after the owner complained.
"We've been back and forth all morning," Thelen said Tuesday. The owner
"said her insurance company threatened to cancel her policy. It's unfortunate,
especially because the manager thought she had the authority to approve it."
Members of the surrounding community who had watched the construction
are distraught. Customers who noticed the tape and sign stopped to ask
what went wrong.
"The city needs something like this so bad," said Luke Phillips, 20, who stopped
by the store for a soda and was angered to see the project had been red-tagged.
"What is their problem?"
Lucia Gomez Reyes said she was looking forward to the day when she could light
a candle in the chapel.
"We don't have a car to go to church," the young mother said. "We need a place to pray."
That is exactly what Best was hoping for and why he picked a place that would have
an impact on the community.
"This is where people come to buy groceries and make phone calls.
It's a hub, and a place where someone can go and sit and cry about
not being with family," Best said.
Councilman Cyr Miller stopped by Tuesday morning to remind Best
that the city fully supported public art. But he said officials had no
choice in this case.
Moments later, Best invited a Guatemalan immigrant to sit down
inside the shrine and was scolded by the councilman.
"That is not allowed," Miller said loudly.
Thelen shook her head in frustration, still trying to come up with
a way to salvage the project.
"Of all the ones to get hit, it had to be this. David Best created an
inspirational piece for the canal community that was friendly and
open, on property where they could see and interact with it," she said.
"This was for all those people who can't make it to Burning Man."
The project was paid for by Best and a grant from the Black Rock
Arts Foundation, a nonprofit started in 2001 by Burning Man directors
to support community-based interactive art.
E-mail Leslie Fulbright at lfulbright@sfchronicle.com.
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Correspondent:: "Rev. Ivan Stang" Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:24:08 -0500
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In article ,
König Prüß, GfbAEV wrote:
>
> Burning Man artist's project extinguished in San Rafael
> City says sanctuary for day laborers must come down after property owner
> complains
> - Leslie Fulbright, Chronicle Staff Writer
> Wednesday, February 2, 2005
>
> Burning Man's renowned temple-builder, David Best, was one day from
> completing a towering art project dedicated to the day laborers in San
> Rafael's
> canal district when the city decided it was all too much.
>
> "The Chapel of the Laborer," a small-scale version of the respected
> plywood structures that Best builds for the weeklong festival in the Nevada
> desert and then burns in remembrance of the dead, was to be a temporary
> sanctuary where Latinos could gather, pray or light a candle for loved ones.
>
That guy's structures are among the most impressive things you see at
Burning Man.
If I remember correctly, some motherfucker took it upon himself to burn
this one down before its appointed hour. And the artist wasn't even
around to see it. I might be thinking of 2000.
--
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Resurrected, Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.)
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Correspondent:: "Rev. Ivan Stang" Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:08:11 -0500
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In article , Shining Path
of Least Resistance wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:03:43 -0500, "Rev. Ivan Stang"
> wrote:
>
> >My daughter called me this morning, said her buddy was looking at
> >movies on ifilm.com and came upon a movie about Burning Man that "shows
> >your dad's logo and a bunch of your dad's friends and a lot of
> >titties."
>
> Nyah, nyahh, your Dad's logo, your Dad's logo!
FOR I AM LOGOS.
> >
> >SubGenii seen in the photos include Dr. Hal, Puzzling Evidence, Dr.
> >Philo Drummond, Pope Im-Ho-Pep Michael Peppe, Shining Path of Least
> >Resistance, Princess Wei "R." Doe and the breastages of many others.
> >Especially the one in the NHGH mask.
>
> That was Cousin Jody in the mask, right?
JODY, that's her name. Whoo doggies. GOT-damn. Why, if she were MY
daughter I'd...
>Once again I achieve my
> usual "footnote-in-history" moment. And I still love Michael Peppe,
> really. Especially that end-of- the Man rant with him wandering
> around with his tighties-whities high up on his waist.
No shit!
I haven't seen it yet but I just got in the mail a VHS video from
Puzzling Evidence of, among other things, the "Peppe-palooza" that was
held last year... and by chance I was just looking at photos of said
Peppe-ganza on Philo's site:
GOD DAMN IT!! I MUST LOCATE THE PEPPE CASSETTE ALBUM AND DIGIFY IT FOR
a.b.s. MP3-ing. And/or dig up old Peppe-heavy Hours of Slack.
--
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(4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected, Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.)
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Correspondent:: Selfs Layer Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 19:14:41 GMT
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On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:08:11 -0500, "Rev. Ivan Stang"
quipped and warbled and generally
subthunk:
>>Once again I achieve my
>> usual "footnote-in-history" moment. And I still love Michael Peppe,
>> really. Especially that end-of- the Man rant with him wandering
>> around with his tighties-whities high up on his waist.
>
>No shit!
>
>I haven't seen it yet but I just got in the mail a VHS video from
>Puzzling Evidence of, among other things, the "Peppe-palooza" that was
>held last year... and by chance I was just looking at photos of said
>Peppe-ganza on Philo's site:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/4r52f
>
>GOD DAMN IT!! I MUST LOCATE THE PEPPE CASSETTE ALBUM AND DIGIFY IT FOR
>a.b.s. MP3-ing. And/or dig up old Peppe-heavy Hours of Slack.
If you can find 'em I wannem!
I ripped Peppe mp3s out of some of your Hours, and am thinking of
posting them.
I tried to translate his 20-page-long "The Real Story" into French in
the summer of 2003, but only made it a third of the way through before
life overwhelmed me and I was again plunged into looking for a job.
It's probably a really crap translation anyway.
For anyone who hasn't read it, it's TRUE RELIGIOUS DOBBSMA!
- Saigneur Selfs Layer, KKP, the dude at the door who acts really poor
(and who wouldn't know you if you stuck a firecracker up his bum on Bastille Day)
Pope Pourri et Ponce de la France, Prince of the One Way E(x)ternal Reich(POW POW POW!), Soleil Eternel de la Verité du Poo-poo...