Hey Stang! There goes the nieghborhood!
Posted by:: "Rev. Richard Skull"
Date: 27 Mar 2005 13:45:58 -0800
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http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20050327112809990005
Gee you move to the other end of the nation and you STILL can get waway
form these assholes!
Posted by:: "Rev. Ivan Stang"
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:09:21 -0500
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In article <1111959958.757593.60710@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Rev.
Richard Skull wrote:
> http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20050327112809990005
>
> Gee you move to the other end of the nation and you STILL can get waway
> form these assholes!
>
Yeah I can, just by not being on AOL. That link is only accessible with
an AOL account.
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Posted by:: "Rev. Richard Skull"
Date: 27 Mar 2005 15:51:55 -0800
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Movement in the Pews Tries to Jolt Ohio
By JAMES DAO, The New York Times
Columbus, Ohio - Christian conservative leaders from scores of Ohio's
fastest growing churches are mounting a campaign to win control of
local government posts and Republican organizations, starting with the
2006 governor's race.
In a manifesto that is being circulated among church leaders and on the
Internet, the group, which is called the Ohio Restoration Project, is
planning to mobilize 2,000 evangelical, Baptist, Pentecostal and Roman
Catholic leaders in a network of so-called Patriot Pastors to register
half a million new voters, enlist activists, train candidates and
endorse conservative causes in the next year.
The initial goal is to elect Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell, a
conservative Republican, governor in 2006. The group hopes to build
grass-roots organizations in Ohio's 88 counties and take control of
local Republican organizations.
"The establishment of the Ohio Republican Party is out of touch with
its base," said Russell Johnson, the pastor of the Fairfield Christian
Church and the principal organizer of the project. "It acts as if it
lives in Boston, Mass."
Pastor Johnson's challenge to the party establishment could have
far-reaching consequences in a state dominated by Republican elected
officials but still considered a bellwether in presidential politics.
Conservatives in other swing states are watching closely.
"In Ohio, the church is awakening to its historic role as the moral
voice in the community," said Colin A. Hanna, president of Let Freedom
Ring, a conservative group based in Pennsylvania that trains ministers
in political activism. "Ohio is in the vanguard of that nationally. I
very much want Pennsylvania to be with them."
The church leaders say they will try to harness the energy of religious
conservatives who were vital not only to Mr. Bush's narrow victory in
Ohio but also to passage of an amendment to the state constitution
banning same-sex marriage. The amendment, known as Issue 1, was
credited with drawing large numbers of rural and suburban conservatives
to the polls and increasing Mr. Bush's support among urban blacks.
"We're calling people to act, not just wring their hands in the pews,"
said Rod Parsley, senior pastor of the World Harvest Church outside
Columbus, who is considered a rising star in the religious broadcasting
world and will be an inspirational speaker for the project. "We got
people motivated last year, and then the election was over. We don't
want folks to think our work is over."
Republican officials are watching warily. The chairman of the state
party, Robert T. Bennett, warned that the decade-long dominance of his
party could be jeopardized if it was pushed too far to the right. "This
is a party of a big tent," Mr. Bennett said. "The far right cannot
elect somebody by itself, any more than somebody from the far left
can."
The conservatives point to the governor's race as an example of what
they consider wrong with the state Republican Party. Of the three
Republican candidates, only Mr. Blackwell has the solid support of
religious conservatives. Jim Petro, the attorney general, opposed the
same-sex marriage amendment on the grounds that it would invite
litigation against companies that provided domestic partner benefits.
Betty D. Montgomery, the state auditor, has supported some abortion
rights.
Gov. Bob Taft, who cannot run for re-election because of term limits,
allowed a sales tax increase to close a budget shortfall and opposed
the marriage amendment.
"We're very confused that you have a Republican Party platform, and yet
people running for higher office pay no attention to it," said Phil
Burress, the leader of the Issue 1 campaign, who is also helping
organize the Restoration Project. "Why don't they just become
Democrats?" he asked.
[On March 22, Mr. Petro announced that his running mate for lieutenant
governor would be Phil Heimlich, a conservative from Cincinnati, and
Ms. Montgomery has asked for a meeting with Pastor Johnson.
Conservatives said that was evidence that the candidates recognized the
churches' power.]
"They understand what happens when 100,000 people committed to our
views are on the same page," Pastor Johnson said. "In their little
political gatherings and cocktail meetings at the country club, they
can't build that kind of loyalty. They can't spend millions to buy what
our people will give for free."
In a three-way primary, many Republican leaders say, Mr. Blackwell has
a solid chance of winning because conservatives represent much of the
party's base. But moderates worry that he could alienate independent
voters and lose the general election. Some are discussing enlisting the
White House to prod Mr. Blackwell to quit the race.
In a recent meeting of leaders from some of the state's largest
churches, many of them in booming Republican suburbs, the Restoration
Project issued a blueprint calling for Patriot Pastors to register
500,000 new voters by the May 2006 primary, then inform and energize
them with voter guides, rallies and so-called e-prayer networks on the
Internet. The group hopes to raise $1 million and is considering
creating a political action committee to provide direct donations to
candidates.
The project, which describes itself as nonpartisan and nonprofit, will
not endorse candidates. But Mr. Blackwell will be invited to speak to
pastoral meetings and to a statewide Ohio for Jesus rally next spring,
along with other prominent Christian conservatives like the Rev.
Franklin Graham, Dr. James Dobson and Charles Colson, the plan says.
Democrats say they are buoyed by the insurgency of Mr. Blackwell. "He's
formidable in many ways, but he's the candidate we'd most like to run
against," said Greg Haas, a strategist for Michael Coleman, the mayor
of Columbus, who is seen as a favorite for the Democratic nomination.
In an interview, Mr. Blackwell, who is black, said that Ohio had
shifted to the right and that he now represented mainstream voters. He
also predicted that he would draw black religious conservatives into
the Republican Party, breaking the Democrats' hold on urban precincts.
"I think what's happening is we're seeing a struggle for the heart and
soul of the Republican Party," he said. "And that's healthy."
Experts said that religious conservatives could bring energy to
campaigns, but that they had mixed results trying to win control of
local political organizations.
"For short periods of time, they often had successes," said John C.
Green, a professor of political science at the University of Akron.
"But it was very difficult to sustain."
Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of
Church and State, said the Restoration Project might have greater
impact because it was more homegrown and had ties to a wider array of
denominations than previous groups like the Moral Majority.
"This represents a new wave in organizing on the part of conservative
evangelicals," Mr. Lynn said. "From my standpoint, as someone who
doesn't agree with their conclusions, this is a more dangerous model."
Pastor Johnson says the project can sustain political energy. Among
conservative leaders, his church, which draws 2,500 regular Sunday
worshipers in a heavily Republican suburb of Columbus, is considered a
model for activism. In the last five years, a half dozen of its
congregants have been elected to local offices, including a judge,
several Lancaster city councilmen and the Fairfield County sheriff,
Dave Phalen.
Mr. Phalen said he was encouraged by church members to run for office
in 2000, when the incumbent was under investigation for corruption.
Sheriff Phelan's official letterhead now reads, "With God, all things
are possible."
"These people turn out to vote," he said of Christian conservatives.
"They give money and will become active. And there will always be
issues to keep people mobilized
Posted by:: "Rev Chain Smerker"
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 01:06:53 GMT
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"Rev. Richard Skull" wrote in message
news:1111967515.426356.116120@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> Movement in the Pews Tries to Jolt Ohio
>
> By JAMES DAO, The New York Times
>
> Columbus, Ohio - Christian conservative leaders from scores of Ohio's
> fastest growing churches are mounting a campaign to win control of
> local government posts and Republican organizations, starting with the
> 2006 governor's race.
>
> In a manifesto that is being circulated among church leaders and on the
> Internet, the group, which is called the Ohio Restoration Project, is
> planning to mobilize 2,000 evangelical, Baptist, Pentecostal and Roman
> Catholic leaders in a network of so-called Patriot Pastors to register
> half a million new voters, enlist activists, train candidates and
> endorse conservative causes in the next year.
>
> The initial goal is to elect Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell, a
> conservative Republican, governor in 2006. The group hopes to build
> grass-roots organizations in Ohio's 88 counties and take control of
> local Republican organizations.
>
> "The establishment of the Ohio Republican Party is out of touch with
> its base," said Russell Johnson, the pastor of the Fairfield Christian
> Church and the principal organizer of the project. "It acts as if it
> lives in Boston, Mass."
>
> Pastor Johnson's challenge to the party establishment could have
> far-reaching consequences in a state dominated by Republican elected
> officials but still considered a bellwether in presidential politics.
> Conservatives in other swing states are watching closely.
>
> "In Ohio, the church is awakening to its historic role as the moral
> voice in the community," said Colin A. Hanna, president of Let Freedom
> Ring, a conservative group based in Pennsylvania that trains ministers
> in political activism. "Ohio is in the vanguard of that nationally. I
> very much want Pennsylvania to be with them."
>
> The church leaders say they will try to harness the energy of religious
> conservatives who were vital not only to Mr. Bush's narrow victory in
> Ohio but also to passage of an amendment to the state constitution
> banning same-sex marriage. The amendment, known as Issue 1, was
> credited with drawing large numbers of rural and suburban conservatives
> to the polls and increasing Mr. Bush's support among urban blacks.
>
> "We're calling people to act, not just wring their hands in the pews,"
> said Rod Parsley, senior pastor of the World Harvest Church outside
> Columbus, who is considered a rising star in the religious broadcasting
> world and will be an inspirational speaker for the project. "We got
> people motivated last year, and then the election was over. We don't
> want folks to think our work is over."
>
> Republican officials are watching warily. The chairman of the state
> party, Robert T. Bennett, warned that the decade-long dominance of his
> party could be jeopardized if it was pushed too far to the right. "This
> is a party of a big tent," Mr. Bennett said. "The far right cannot
> elect somebody by itself, any more than somebody from the far left
> can."
>
> The conservatives point to the governor's race as an example of what
> they consider wrong with the state Republican Party. Of the three
> Republican candidates, only Mr. Blackwell has the solid support of
> religious conservatives. Jim Petro, the attorney general, opposed the
> same-sex marriage amendment on the grounds that it would invite
> litigation against companies that provided domestic partner benefits.
> Betty D. Montgomery, the state auditor, has supported some abortion
> rights.
>
> Gov. Bob Taft, who cannot run for re-election because of term limits,
> allowed a sales tax increase to close a budget shortfall and opposed
> the marriage amendment.
>
> "We're very confused that you have a Republican Party platform, and yet
> people running for higher office pay no attention to it," said Phil
> Burress, the leader of the Issue 1 campaign, who is also helping
> organize the Restoration Project. "Why don't they just become
> Democrats?" he asked.
>
> [On March 22, Mr. Petro announced that his running mate for lieutenant
> governor would be Phil Heimlich, a conservative from Cincinnati, and
> Ms. Montgomery has asked for a meeting with Pastor Johnson.
> Conservatives said that was evidence that the candidates recognized the
> churches' power.]
>
> "They understand what happens when 100,000 people committed to our
> views are on the same page," Pastor Johnson said. "In their little
> political gatherings and cocktail meetings at the country club, they
> can't build that kind of loyalty. They can't spend millions to buy what
> our people will give for free."
>
> In a three-way primary, many Republican leaders say, Mr. Blackwell has
> a solid chance of winning because conservatives represent much of the
> party's base. But moderates worry that he could alienate independent
> voters and lose the general election. Some are discussing enlisting the
> White House to prod Mr. Blackwell to quit the race.
>
> In a recent meeting of leaders from some of the state's largest
> churches, many of them in booming Republican suburbs, the Restoration
> Project issued a blueprint calling for Patriot Pastors to register
> 500,000 new voters by the May 2006 primary, then inform and energize
> them with voter guides, rallies and so-called e-prayer networks on the
> Internet. The group hopes to raise $1 million and is considering
> creating a political action committee to provide direct donations to
> candidates.
>
> The project, which describes itself as nonpartisan and nonprofit, will
> not endorse candidates. But Mr. Blackwell will be invited to speak to
> pastoral meetings and to a statewide Ohio for Jesus rally next spring,
> along with other prominent Christian conservatives like the Rev.
> Franklin Graham, Dr. James Dobson and Charles Colson, the plan says.
>
> Democrats say they are buoyed by the insurgency of Mr. Blackwell. "He's
> formidable in many ways, but he's the candidate we'd most like to run
> against," said Greg Haas, a strategist for Michael Coleman, the mayor
> of Columbus, who is seen as a favorite for the Democratic nomination.
>
> In an interview, Mr. Blackwell, who is black, said that Ohio had
> shifted to the right and that he now represented mainstream voters. He
> also predicted that he would draw black religious conservatives into
> the Republican Party, breaking the Democrats' hold on urban precincts.
>
> "I think what's happening is we're seeing a struggle for the heart and
> soul of the Republican Party," he said. "And that's healthy."
>
> Experts said that religious conservatives could bring energy to
> campaigns, but that they had mixed results trying to win control of
> local political organizations.
>
> "For short periods of time, they often had successes," said John C.
> Green, a professor of political science at the University of Akron.
> "But it was very difficult to sustain."
>
> Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of
> Church and State, said the Restoration Project might have greater
> impact because it was more homegrown and had ties to a wider array of
> denominations than previous groups like the Moral Majority.
>
> "This represents a new wave in organizing on the part of conservative
> evangelicals," Mr. Lynn said. "From my standpoint, as someone who
> doesn't agree with their conclusions, this is a more dangerous model."
>
> Pastor Johnson says the project can sustain political energy. Among
> conservative leaders, his church, which draws 2,500 regular Sunday
> worshipers in a heavily Republican suburb of Columbus, is considered a
> model for activism. In the last five years, a half dozen of its
> congregants have been elected to local offices, including a judge,
> several Lancaster city councilmen and the Fairfield County sheriff,
> Dave Phalen.
>
> Mr. Phalen said he was encouraged by church members to run for office
> in 2000, when the incumbent was under investigation for corruption.
>
> Sheriff Phelan's official letterhead now reads, "With God, all things
> are possible."
>
> "These people turn out to vote," he said of Christian conservatives.
> "They give money and will become active. And there will always be
> issues to keep people mobilized
>
I love my country
Posted by:: Zapanaz
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:14:11 -0800
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 01:06:53 GMT, "Rev Chain Smerker"
wrote:
>
>I love my country
puh puh praise Jesus!
We'll have this country back in the middle ages where it belongs in no
time!
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
Oh, the lazily modern canyon of it ALL!
- "A beam from the spirit"
Posted by:: "Rev Chain Smerker"
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 01:34:09 GMT
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"Zapanaz" wrote in message
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>
> We'll have this country back in the middle ages where it belongs in no
> time!
Im being completely serious here, I think its a good thing!, America has
always suffered from a puritan mindset and I think the only way that it will
learn any better is if does become the Saudi Arabia of the west.
Euorpe learnt its lesson, its now time for America.
Posted by:: HellPope Huey
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 05:08:25 GMT
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In article ,
"Rev Chain Smerker" wrote:
> "Zapanaz" wrote in message
> news:phme419ra76ov9ei6fuaua79qv2dlrc3u5@4ax.com...
> > >
> > We'll have this country back in the middle ages where it belongs in no
> > time!
>
> Im being completely serious here, I think its a good thing!, America has
> always suffered from a puritan mindset and I think the only way that it will
> learn any better is if does become the Saudi Arabia of the west.
> > Euorpe learnt its lesson, its now time for America.
Yeah, we'll get OURS once we're Europe's bitch and it takes 8 dollars
to buy 1 Euro. HO HO HO HEE HEE HEE HA HA HA FUCK US WE SUCK U.S.A.
NUMBER THREE!!! Yes, buttsplit a Puritan for "Bob!"
--
HellPope Huey
Mars needs sweeping
When I take action,
I'm not going to fire a $2 million missile
at a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt.
It's going to be decisive.
- George Bush, regarding the 9/11 attacks
"Fairly harmless, according to the government,
which has been squirting it at you
most of your life."
- "King of the Hill"
Posted by:: "Rev. Richard Skull"
Date: 28 Mar 2005 12:11:27 -0800
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to buy 1 Euro. HO HO HO HEE HEE HEE HA HA HA FUCK US WE SUCK U.S.A.
NUMBER THREE!!! Yes, buttsplit a Puritan for "Bob!" >>
Many of the "USA #1!" assholes seem to neglect to motice the fact that
more & more of our remaning businesses are forign owned.
Westinghouse decided they did not want to be a manufactorer and sold
everything off, mostly to Phillips from Europe.
Chrysler was bought out by the Germans (suckers!)
The Swiss own several US Banks now.
Most of our Pharmacuetical Companies are owned by Europeans (and are
screwing us royally)
The only reason many US Firms are still American owned is the fact that
State & Federal Contracts require most materials to be of US Origan.
As many "Financial Advisors" will tell you, you follow the long term
trends. Alot of the US GDP thses days are "paper transactions",
mergers, stock sales, etc. They do not create anything of hard "value"
like a car or a dildo. And the pieces of paper for the most part are
only worth what some sucker is willing to pay for them.
Yea the writing is one the wall. Lots of asshole got very rich very
quick in the last 30 years, at the expense of of many Americans who
have not even been born yet!
Posted by:: "Rev. Richard Skull"
Date: 28 Mar 2005 11:58:02 -0800
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<
has
always suffered from a puritan mindset and I think the only way that it
will
learn any better is if does become the Saudi Arabia of the west.
Euorpe learnt its lesson, its now time for America. >>
Look what it did for Iran, once the most Westernized Silamic Nation,
they now live in third world conditions.
The latest housing craze there for the last 10 years has been to make a
home out of shipping containers. Since outside of oil, Iran exports
nothing else these days, there are massive quanitities of shipping
containers all over the place.
Depending on who owns them, it is cheaper to abondon them there then
ship them half way around the world empty.
This alos leads to some containers being "hijacked" even though they
are supposed ot eb sent back to where they came from.
So many shippers will not ship Containerized freight to Iran anymoe. If
they do, they send the oldest most beatup containers they can scrounge
up on short notice.
Yea, I can see the US in 20 Years of "Christain Leadership", occupieing
50% of the Middle East, bankrupt from "Speading Freedom to the poor Oil
Rich masses", and the average person living in squaler and send their
kids to pull military service in the :occupied zones" while a select
few live like Kings and send their kids to college.
.
Posted by:: Rich Clark aka Left Rev Egg Plant
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 15:21:03 -0500
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Rev. Richard Skull wrote:
> Yea, I can see the US in 20 Years of "Christain Leadership", occupieing
> 50% of the Middle East, bankrupt from "Speading Freedom to the poor Oil
> Rich masses", and the average person living in squaler and send their
> kids to pull military service in the :occupied zones" while a select
> few live like Kings and send their kids to college.
You mean this isn't the status quo already?
Posted by:: "Rev. Richard Skull"
Date: 28 Mar 2005 12:43:55 -0800
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<>
Not quite, but we're close!
Posted by:: "Rev. Richard Skull"
Date: 27 Mar 2005 15:52:30 -0800
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Dang! This here internetthingy is harder then I thought!