A nation at slackless attention
Correspondent:: dblspace@aol.complex-sex (David Langlois --- Ball serves Baal)
Date: 03 Nov 2004 18:19:05 GMT
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What kind of a self-respecting country would re-elect George W. Bush? No people
worthy of Dobbs' slack would prop up the smirking chimp for one more show.
(People to Bush: finish what you started!) Color us all crestfallen. So be
prepared for at least four more years of the Patriot Act and a public safety
level which mysteriously never reaches green or blue. Or red - we just toggle
back & forth between yellow & orange like good Pavlovian subjects. Is George W.
Bush a combination of Forrest Gump & Bob Dobbs? I always thought Robert Tilton
was the Ram of Bob on this earth. *hora bassandah kitira dobosoya*
David
aka
the Rebi "Slash" Foreskin
(R/4)
Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 20:13:43 GMT
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David Langlois --- Ball serves Baal wrote:
> What kind of a self-respecting country would re-elect George W. Bush? No people
> worthy of Dobbs' slack would prop up the smirking chimp for one more show.
> (People to Bush: finish what you started!) Color us all crestfallen. So be
> prepared for at least four more years of the Patriot Act and a public safety
> level which mysteriously never reaches green or blue. Or red - we just toggle
> back & forth between yellow & orange like good Pavlovian subjects. Is George W.
> Bush a combination of Forrest Gump & Bob Dobbs? I always thought Robert Tilton
> was the Ram of Bob on this earth. *hora bassandah kitira dobosoya*
Walden O'Dell, CEO of Diebold, Inc. (a major electronic voting equipment
manufacturer) said in a memo last summer that he was "committed to
helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the President next year."
International monitors at polling stations said they had "less access to
polls than in Kazakhstan," that the electronic voting had "fewer
fail-safes than in Venezuela," that the ballots were "not so simple as
in the Republic of Georgia," and that, "to be honest, monitoring
elections in Serbia a few months ago was much simpler."
While exit polls closely matched the actual voting returns in states
where votes leave paper trails, the Bush vote inexplicably leapt ahead
of the exit polls in states with fully electrionic, paper-trailless voting.
Wake up, people.
Correspondent:: hellpopehuey@subgenius.com (HellPopeHuey)
Date: 7 Nov 2004 20:49:07 -0800
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Cardinal Vertigo wrote in message news:...
> Wake up, people.
Okay, I'm awake. Now what?
--
HellPope Huey
Never mind the bollocks,
where's the bleedin' cordiality?
Where would this country be
without this great land of ours?
- Ronald Reagan
"Two dogs died, one from guinea worms,
the other from you."
- Hunter S. Thompson
Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 05:15:32 GMT
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HellPopeHuey wrote:
> Cardinal Vertigo wrote in message news:...
>
> > Wake up, people.
>
> Okay, I'm awake. Now what?
>
> --
>
>
Pass the mashed potatoes...
Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 05:32:42 GMT
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HellPopeHuey wrote:
> Cardinal Vertigo wrote in message news:...
>
>> Wake up, people.
>
> Okay, I'm awake. Now what?
Organize, man.
Correspondent:: haecceity@canada.com (Ad Absurdum)
Date: 8 Nov 2004 10:46:13 -0800
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> >
> >> Wake up, people.
> >
> > Okay, I'm awake. Now what?
>
> Organize, man.
Four years ago a similar thing happened (though of course differently
done). People also were pretty on top of it within a few days and
researching and trying to spread information. From where I am it
didn't seem to do very much (in the sense of courts and laws and
impeachments or whatever) except make a lot more people a lot more
disillusioned, which is fine. I'm with you and everything, but what's
going to be done differently than four years ago to keep the 'election
fraud' issue from becoming just more TV content??
Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 20:13:23 GMT
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Ad Absurdum wrote:
>> >
>> >> Wake up, people.
>> >
>> > Okay, I'm awake. Now what?
>>
>> Organize, man.
>
> Four years ago a similar thing happened (though of course differently
> done). People also were pretty on top of it within a few days and
> researching and trying to spread information. From where I am it
> didn't seem to do very much (in the sense of courts and laws and
> impeachments or whatever) except make a lot more people a lot more
> disillusioned, which is fine. I'm with you and everything, but what's
> going to be done differently than four years ago to keep the 'election
> fraud' issue from becoming just more TV content??
If a system of government is broken, the people who are governed by that
system have a right to know about its breakage.
Meaningful and comprehensive electoral reform at all levels of American
government is a moral imperative. Yes, I said moral. Burying word of
the system's breakage "for the good of the country" only benefits those
who have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo.
"Anonymous high-level sources inside the campaign" are saying that Kerry
and Edwards had a bit of a row in the wee hours of Wednesday morning.
Supposedly Edwards was aruging that the campaign should refuse to
concede before all the votes were counted, but Kerry wouldn't budge on
the grounds that protracting what he saw as an inevitable defeat would
be a pointless waste of the Dems' political capital.
It's becoming more and more apparent now that Kerry should've let
himself be talked down from that cross.
On Saturday the daily paper in Madison WI published a letter to the
editor from an area activist who worked as a Kerry supporter; a couple
of the filters caught it today. Despite her aggressively whiny tone, I
can't really disagree with her main point.
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1107-24.htm
Correspondent:: haecceity@canada.com (Ad Absurdum)
Date: 8 Nov 2004 23:19:25 -0800
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> If a system of government is broken, the people who are governed by that
> system have a right to know about its breakage.
Well sure...... but is it worth reaching ALL of them? That's what
'right' implies.
> Meaningful and comprehensive electoral reform at all levels of American
> government is a moral imperative. Yes, I said moral.
It depends what you mean by 'reform', and how much effort and
resources it will take, and to what degree it is a forgone
impossibility. It's that last part that makes me think this word
'moral' is DOUBLY inappropriate..... 'moral' + 'right' means endless
toil tracking down that last duped recluse who doesn't even care and
giving him a 'new, corrected vote'.
> Burying word of
> the system's breakage "for the good of the country" only benefits those
> who have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo.
I'm not saying don't tell people. I'm saying there ARE people of
influence who have been experts in killing these kinds of
'revelations' via controlled televisation SINCE BEFORE WE WERE BORN.
How do you get ahead of them???
> "Anonymous high-level sources inside the campaign" are saying that Kerry
> and Edwards had a bit of a row in the wee hours of Wednesday morning.
> Supposedly Edwards was aruging that the campaign should refuse to
> concede before all the votes were counted, but Kerry wouldn't budge on
> the grounds that protracting what he saw as an inevitable defeat would
> be a pointless waste of the Dems' political capital.
>
> It's becoming more and more apparent now that Kerry should've let
> himself be talked down from that cross.
I think it's becoming more and more apparent that Kerry never expected
or even really wanted to be President of the United States. He's not
stupid, it's like Al Gore not endorsing his own supporters' petitions
to the Senate..... too stupid to be true. Too bleak for a lot of
people to even CONSIDER.... let alone 'believe'.
> On Saturday the daily paper in Madison WI published a letter to the
> editor from an area activist who worked as a Kerry supporter; a couple
> of the filters caught it today. Despite her aggressively whiny tone, I
> can't really disagree with her main point.
>
> http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1107-24.htm
Well, it's too bad she didn't clue in to how futile it was before she
ran herself into the ground for NO GOOD REASON. The American People
were duped not just by the neocons, but by their own desperate hope
that they could possibly have a real election FOUR SHORT YEARS after a
seriously blatant fix was shoved down their throats. Too bad she
didn't write about how she managed to convince herself that Horny Jerk
was the great not-Bush hope for the nation.
Anyway, I do agree with her, and as JK is obviously not going to be
launching any lawsuits on his own behalf or allowing anyone to do so
for him, I'd like to see wealthy people who made large donations to
him SUING HIM FOR THEIR MONEY BACK because he clearly gave up the
election before it was over. Clearly, and MOST LIKELY deliberately.
So what then? I agree with the REASONS, but what the hell are you
going to DO????? I've been telling some people, too, but.......
organize what??? Unless you'd rather not say.......
Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 18:06:37 GMT
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Ad Absurdum wrote:
> So what then? I agree with the REASONS, but what the hell are you
> going to DO????? I've been telling some people, too, but.......
> organize what??? Unless you'd rather not say.......
Me talking about the solution:
http://tinyurl.com/5y3ju
There are several grassroots organizations out there promoting instant
runoff voting. Howard Dean and John McCain are among its supporters.
Several states are looking at it or have legislation pending.
http://www.fairvote.org/
http://www.instantrunoff.com/
"Clean elections" groups are kicking ass all over the place as well.
Maine, Massachusetts, Vermont, and Arizona all have some sort of
publicly financed elections, with legislation pending in nearly half the
rest of the states.
http://www.azclean.org/
http://www.massvoters.org/
http://www.publicampaign.org/
http://www.lwvmn.org/FACE/
http://www.scvotersforcleanelections.com/
This is doable, I promise.
Correspondent:: haecceity@canada.com (Ad Absurdum)
Date: 23 Nov 2004 17:06:42 -0800
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> > So what then? I agree with the REASONS, but what the hell are you
> > going to DO????? I've been telling some people, too, but.......
> > organize what??? Unless you'd rather not say.......
>
> Me talking about the solution:
> http://tinyurl.com/5y3ju
Okay, that sounds reasonable. But "all that is required" is an act of
Congress........ that's probably never going to happen, at least not
before overseas messes are so fucked up that no one could really fix
them. The other problem is getting a candidate that's actually worth
voting for.
> This is doable, I promise.
People who have enough faith in the American electoral system to
devote huge amounts of effort to making it happen properly, despite no
help from the major media and a total lack of a decent Democratic
candidate to back, are precisely the people who were exploited by the
'bad guys' to convince everyone else that there was going to be a real
election this time. Now everyone is saying GWB won 'fair and square'
because of how much effort was put into WANTING it to be a fair and
square process. If all that effort went towards trying to build a
food- and energy-distribution system which didn't need a President to
oversee, there might be some hope. But they're going to fuck you,
mark my words. They're going to give you enough success to keep you
inspired, but the candidate who wins the first clean election will
embarass herself so badly that you'll wish you hadn't wasted those
years.
Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 01:44:25 GMT
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Ad Absurdum wrote:
>> > So what then? I agree with the REASONS, but what the hell are you
>> > going to DO????? I've been telling some people, too, but.......
>> > organize what??? Unless you'd rather not say.......
>>
>> Me talking about the solution:
>> http://tinyurl.com/5y3ju
>
> Okay, that sounds reasonable. But "all that is required" is an act of
> Congress........ that's probably never going to happen, at least not
> before overseas messes are so fucked up that no one could really fix
> them.
Or until either of the major parties has no choice but to cave in to
popular pressure or risk alienating a gigantic bloc of voters. See
also: civil rights, workers' rights, etc.
> The other problem is getting a candidate that's actually worth
> voting for.
There are a few decent people in politics, I promise. Less than there
used to be, obviously, but they're there. You can play "Spot 'em
Yourself" once you learn what to look for.
>> This is doable, I promise.
>
> People who have enough faith in the American electoral system to
> devote huge amounts of effort to making it happen properly, despite no
> help from the major media and a total lack of a decent Democratic
> candidate to back, are precisely the people who were exploited by the
> 'bad guys' to convince everyone else that there was going to be a real
> election this time.
Not an accurate generalization.
> Now everyone is saying GWB won 'fair and square'
> because of how much effort was put into WANTING it to be a fair and
> square process.
Like it or not, there's no getting Kerry in the White House now. Worse
yet, there are *way* too many other important things at immediate risk
for the left to be wasting political capital screaming about the
election right now.
> If all that effort went towards trying to build a
> food- and energy-distribution system which didn't need a President to
> oversee
Please don't feel like you have to keep your plans for this utopian
executive-free food- and energy-distribution system to yourself, because
I think I speak for most progressives when I say we'd all be *very*
interested in hearing all the details of such a thing.
We'll be needing all the specifics about the plan, as well as all the
specifics about the feasible short-term, medium-term, and long-term
strategic initiatives you have in mind to bring that plan to fruition.
Otherwise we'll just stick with the plan we've got.
> there might be some hope.
You're goddamn right.
> But they're going to fuck you,
> mark my words. They're going to give you enough success to keep you
> inspired, but the candidate who wins the first clean election will
> embarass herself so badly that you'll wish you hadn't wasted those
> years.
Oh well, I wasn't doing much else anyway.
Correspondent:: haecceity@canada.com (Ad Absurdum)
Date: 24 Nov 2004 21:15:39 -0800
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> Otherwise we'll just stick with the plan we've got.
>
> > there might be some hope.
>
> You're goddamn right.
>
> > But they're going to fuck you,
> > mark my words. They're going to give you enough success to keep you
> > inspired, but the candidate who wins the first clean election will
> > embarass herself so badly that you'll wish you hadn't wasted those
> > years.
>
> Oh well, I wasn't doing much else anyway.
Okay.
Correspondent:: hellpopehuey@subgenius.com (HellPopeHuey)
Date: 9 Nov 2004 08:31:21 -0800
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Cardinal Vertigo wrote in message news:...
> Meaningful and comprehensive electoral reform at all levels of American
> government is a moral imperative. Yes, I said moral.
Hey Beavis, you're on alt.slack and you said "moral,"
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!! Now let's see ya go to alt.christian, extoll
the virtues of anal sex with your cousin and see if you make any
headway. Remember where you ARE, sir; we don't cotton to no morality
around here. That's too close to 'manners,' 'principles' and 'logic'
and for that, you'll get yer ass whipped like a red-headed stepchild.
SPANKY SPANKY
--
HellPope Huey
I'm rubber and you're glue...
what the hell did we EAT, anyway?
The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority,
but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus
"I feel like someone opened my head
and poured in hot nickels."
- "Dharma & Greg"
Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 16:51:07 GMT
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HellPopeHuey wrote:
> Cardinal Vertigo wrote in message news:...
>
> > Meaningful and comprehensive electoral reform at all levels of American
> > government is a moral imperative. Yes, I said moral.
>
> Hey Beavis, you're on alt.slack and you said "moral,"
> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!! Now let's see ya go to alt.christian, extoll
> the virtues of anal sex with your cousin and see if you make any
> headway. Remember where you ARE, sir; we don't cotton to no morality
> around here. That's too close to 'manners,' 'principles' and 'logic'
> and for that, you'll get yer ass whipped like a red-headed stepchild.
> SPANKY SPANKY
>
> --
>
>
Speaking of anal cousin sex, there was
a TeeVee segment a little while back that
still has me scratching my head! They said
that some 25% of Americans are married
to their cousins! Including Rudy Giuliani!
Rudy Giuliani's first wife was also his third
cousin. I can understand it in Bugtussle, West
Virginia, but New York is a big place where there
are lots of people not even related to you.
Cousin butt must be some good stuff!
Correspondent:: HellPope Huey
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 01:55:23 GMT
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In article <4190F490.3E5C8CD2@Rununculus.org>,
Konig Pruss, GfbAEV wrote:
> Speaking of anal cousin sex, there was
> a TeeVee segment a little while back that
> still has me scratching my head! They said
> that some 25% of Americans are married
> to their cousins! Including Rudy Giuliani!
> Rudy Giuliani's first wife was also his third
> cousin. I can understand it in Bugtussle, West
> Virginia, but New York is a big place where there
> are lots of people not even related to you.
> Cousin butt must be some good stuff!
From the look of the average Usenet post, it must be
super-sphincterlicious. This place is like an ongoing loop of angry
make-up sex that never yields an orgasm. I guess its the 5" diameter
dong dipped in SuperGlue and #4 polishing grit that does it.
--
HellPope Huey
I'm rubber and you're glue...
what the hell did we EAT, anyway?
The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority,
but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.
- Marcus Aurelius Antoninus
"I feel like someone opened my head
and poured in hot nickels."
- "Dharma & Greg"
Correspondent:: purple
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 12:46:14 -0500
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On 11/8/04 1:46 PM, in article
d65e36c.0411081046.31bfc27a@posting.google.com, "Ad Absurdum"
wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wake up, people.
>>>
>>> Okay, I'm awake. Now what?
>>
>> Organize, man.
>
> Four years ago a similar thing happened (though of course differently
> done). People also were pretty on top of it within a few days and
> researching and trying to spread information. From where I am it
> didn't seem to do very much (in the sense of courts and laws and
> impeachments or whatever) except make a lot more people a lot more
> disillusioned, which is fine. I'm with you and everything, but what's
> going to be done differently than four years ago to keep the 'election
> fraud' issue from becoming just more TV content??
Exactly. And I predicted all of it. It was easy.
The Great Bob Dobbs
Correspondent:: HdMrs. Salacia the Overseer
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 23:58:04 -0600
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On 7 Nov 2004 20:49:07 -0800, hellpopehuey@subgenius.com
(HellPopeHuey) wrote:
>Cardinal Vertigo wrote in message news:...
>
>> Wake up, people.
>
> Okay, I'm awake. Now what?
......Arise,
or be forever fallen.
duh.
Correspondent:: nenslo
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 13:28:22 -0800
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"HdMrs. Salacia the Overseer" wrote:
>
> ......Arise,
> or be forever fallen.
You devil you.
Correspondent:: Rev DJ Epoch
Date: 8 Nov 2004 13:04:59 GMT
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hellpopehuey@subgenius.com (HellPopeHuey) wrote in
news:8cc8cffc.0411072049.2db5df28@posting.google.com:
> Cardinal Vertigo wrote in message
> news:...
>
>> Wake up, people.
>
> Okay, I'm awake. Now what?
>
Take out the garbage.
--
The Church of Our Lady of Prepetual Motion
Cathedral, Carwash and Dancehall- Home of the Traci Lords Memorial Brothel
Rev. DJ Epoch - proprietor and janitor
Divine Southern Redneck Yeti Clench Recruitment site: http://revdjepoch.COM
Correspondent:: hellpopehuey@subgenius.com (HellPopeHuey)
Date: 8 Nov 2004 10:21:33 -0800
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Rev DJ Epoch wrote in message news:...
> hellpopehuey@subgenius.com (HellPopeHuey) wrote in
> news:8cc8cffc.0411072049.2db5df28@posting.google.com:
> > > Cardinal Vertigo wrote in message
> > news:...
> >
> >> Wake up, people.
> >
> > Okay, I'm awake. Now what?
> >
> Take out the garbage.
I did a 360-degree turn and all I could SEE was garbage, so please
define "out." I have Hefty bags (no pun intended) and I stand ready to
haul.
--
HellPope Huey
I was a teen-aged whatchamacallit;
as you can see, the condition became chronic
People that are really very weird
can get into sensitive positions
and have a tremendous impact on history.
- Dan Quayle
"Compared to you, he's a whole other species!
You should be his pet!"
- "Malcolm In The Middle"
Correspondent:: Rev DJ Epoch
Date: 9 Nov 2004 14:33:31 GMT
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hellpopehuey@subgenius.com (HellPopeHuey) wrote in
news:8cc8cffc.0411081021.51540f7a@posting.google.com:
> Rev DJ Epoch wrote in message
> news:...
>> hellpopehuey@subgenius.com (HellPopeHuey) wrote in
>> news:8cc8cffc.0411072049.2db5df28@posting.google.com:
>> > > Cardinal Vertigo wrote in message
>> > news:...
>> >
>> >> Wake up, people.
>> >
>> > Okay, I'm awake. Now what?
>> >
>> Take out the garbage.
>
> I did a 360-degree turn and all I could SEE was garbage, so please
> define "out." I have Hefty bags (no pun intended) and I stand ready to
> haul.
>
You know... "out"? As in "not in"? As in, open the door, grab a Bobcat and
bulldoze it out into the neighbor's yard? Relocate, transpose, migrate,
etc.
...keep the old editions of "Cracked", though. But the "Ladies Home
Journal" and "UXB Weekly" have to go before the CIA start looking at you
like a runaway spook.
--
The Church of Our Lady of Prepetual Motion
Cathedral, Carwash and Dancehall- Home of the Traci Lords Memorial Brothel
Rev. DJ Epoch - proprietor and janitor
Divine Southern Redneck Yeti Clench Recruitment site: http://revdjepoch.COM
"They can have my penis when they pry it from my cold, dead hands." --
Cardinal Vertigo
"if you stand on my instep, lean into my face with your salami-breathed
bad manners and bellow "HOWYADOIN' THERE, BUCKO?," you ultimately have
no one to blame but YOU for the pineapple suppository."
- HellPope Huey
Correspondent:: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)
Date: 09 Nov 2004 18:13:51 GMT
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>> Wake up, people.
>
> Okay, I'm awake. Now what?
Go down & make some coffee. And bring me the papar!
MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man
"War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"
Charles E. Montague