Was the election hacked?

Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 03:32:24 GMT

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http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1106-30.htm

The returns don't match up with the exit polls in some counties in
Florida, among other places. This hadn't really ever happened before
the election of 2004.

Oddly enough, all the counties in Florida where the vote doesn't match
the exit polls used a specific kind of Diebold voting technology. No
other counties in Florida were using it; only the fishy ones.

This technology records and counts votes at the individual polling
places, and sends the tally to what Diebold likes to call a "central
tabulator," where the tallies are combined and the results are actually
recorded.

That central tabulator is an ordinary Windows PC, and the tallies just
sit on the disk in an unencrypted file.


Correspondent:: "iDRMRSR"
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 00:09:42 -0500

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Yeah, well, I think everybody's vote should be published in the newspaper
and kept on record.

That would sure cut down on a LOT of crappy gainsaying after every close
election.

Why, you could vote and then register your auto at the same time, and they
could print it on your license, far before the election.

This would make future law enforcement really efficient, too. Not to
mention divvying out precious government services and the like only to the
loyal.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

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Correspondent:: "fenian d'illudium q-36, Rlari."
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 10:20:30 -0500

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"Cardinal Vertigo" wrote in message
news:cHgjd.16992$Rf1.8862@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com...
> http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1106-30.htm
>
> The returns don't match up with the exit polls in some counties in
> Florida, among other places. This hadn't really ever happened before
> the election of 2004.
> That central tabulator is an ordinary Windows PC, and the tallies just
> sit on the disk in an unencrypted file.

LOL. I'm no uber geek, but I have a better than average understanding of
digital theory. Now...every day since I first started hearing that e-voting
was prone to problems, and that the pinks were still going ahead and
employing it, 'WTF' has been looping over and over in my mind.

A) WHY would you use technology that so many have so little faith in?
B) HOW goddamn hard is it to program a machine to count some votes? I just
don't see how that's just a damn simple thing, right from recording the
votes, to storing them in a secure way. A windows machine was used????? What
in the hell? So you have one company who makes the operating system, with
their own super special secret code, and you have another company making the
storage system within that operating system, and there can't be any
communication between the two of them because both their softwares are
secret, proprietary code!!!!
C) WHY would you allow propriertary code to be used AT ALL? How can you have
any kind of third party verification if the methods used are secret???
D) What do you people tell your grandmothers? Grammy, sorry, but you know
how you are always on about the commies taking over? Weellll....got some bad
news for ya...





Correspondent:: Vaylor Trucks
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 10:49:13 -0500

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"We take you now to a garage in Canoga Park"

Cardinal Vertigo wrote:
> http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1106-30.htm
>
> The returns don't match up with the exit polls in some counties in
> Florida, among other places. This hadn't really ever happened before
> the election of 2004.
>
> Oddly enough, all the counties in Florida where the vote doesn't match
> the exit polls used a specific kind of Diebold voting technology. No
> other counties in Florida were using it; only the fishy ones.
>
> This technology records and counts votes at the individual polling
> places, and sends the tally to what Diebold likes to call a "central
> tabulator," where the tallies are combined and the results are actually
> recorded.
>
> That central tabulator is an ordinary Windows PC, and the tallies just
> sit on the disk in an unencrypted file.


Correspondent:: Priestess Pisces
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 16:33:14 GMT

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Vaylor Trucks wrote in news:cmlg5p0g56
@news3.newsguy.com:

> "We take you now to a garage in Canoga Park"
>
HE DID IT ! HE DID IT! HOW ELSE WOULD HE KNOW WHERE THE GARAGE WAS!?


Correspondent:: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)
Date: 07 Nov 2004 19:29:54 GMT

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>> "We take you now to a garage in Canoga Park"
>>
>HE DID IT ! HE DID IT! HOW ELSE WOULD HE KNOW WHERE THE GARAGE WAS!?
>

I used an electronic mahine, I do not know if my vote was tallied, but it I
scored over 120,000 on Pac Man!


MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man

"War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"

Charles E. Montague


Correspondent:: Don Radford
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 00:56:36 GMT

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Priestess Pisces wrote:

>>"We take you now to a garage in Canoga Park"
>
> HE DID IT ! HE DID IT! HOW ELSE WOULD HE KNOW WHERE THE GARAGE WAS!?

It's called West Hills now. They renamed this part of Canoga Park after
St. Zappa cut that record.

Who's got the donuts?

--
Art and Fashion for the New Conspiracy

http://www.cafepress.com/luciddragon

the Mystical RevvedErrand Rockin' Don Radford
Certified God by the holy authority of
the White Lotus Fortune Cookie Company
June 23, 2004


Correspondent:: "Slack Master K.O.N."
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 18:07:33 -0500

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As soon as I heard that the exit polls didn't match the final count, I knew
it was 'hacked'. OK, I could set up a 'voting machine' with a wireless
network card. I could surround it by some chipsets used in the machine or
even insert fake ones or even hide the card in a 'magnet'. Then a
closed/private network could be set up linking all of the voting machines
to a server (my server). I could be sitting in Belgium or Canada or Iraq on
my laptop watching the votes roll in and deleting scores of them. Now I'm
quite technologically savvy but obviously not as savvy as the engineers who
built the damn things. How hard do you think it would be for them to set
this up? This is just grazing the surface of the hardware issues. Now how
about the software on the machines? It could be set up so that every 3rd
or 4th vote for a cerain party was deleted. No 'hacking' necessary. Now if
seperate companies designed the software and hardware it would make things a
bit harder for any one trying to fuck up the vote but realistically, if you
can bribe one company into fixing the machines, you could bribe a thousand
companies.