Comparative Movieology

Correspondent:: "iDRMRSR"
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:55:47 -0400

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Why is it that Pee Wee's Big Adventure is SO MUCH BETTER than Cat in the Hat
it's not fucking funny? CITH was on HBO last night and I taped it, not
having seen it in the theater. B O R I N G.

Yet much of the on screen imagery and ensuing chaos was similar in many
ways, visually.

How could anybody want to live after making a movie that makes Pee Wee
Herman look GOOD anyhow?

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Correspondent:: Priestess Pisces
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 01:03:04 GMT

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"iDRMRSR" wrote in
news:GoidnaPRz7yO0uHcRVn-3Q@giganews.com:

> Why is it that Pee Wee's Big Adventure is SO MUCH BETTER than Cat in
> the Hat it's not fucking funny? CITH was on HBO last night and I
> taped it, not having seen it in the theater. B O R I N G.
>
> Yet much of the on screen imagery and ensuing chaos was similar in
> many ways, visually.
>
> How could anybody want to live after making a movie that makes Pee Wee
> Herman look GOOD anyhow?
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>

The same thing happens in books now days. When i enter a library or
bookstore, i immediately walk past the new/bestseller/hot/trendy/oprah
pulp section. My attitude towards movies and books is the same. A good
portion of anything new is crap and i havent even come close to
reading/watching all the old stuff yet.


Correspondent:: phy
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 01:43:09 -0000

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Priestess Pisces wrote in
news:Xns958CD62432FE4priestesspiscesremov@207.69.189.191:

> The same thing happens in books now days. When i enter a library or
> bookstore, i immediately walk past the new/bestseller/hot/trendy/oprah
> pulp section. My attitude towards movies and books is the same. A good
> portion of anything new is crap and i havent even come close to
> reading/watching all the old stuff yet.

Doesn't it follow that since what is old was once new, a lot of it is also
crap?

-phy


Correspondent:: "ghost"
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 01:50:26 GMT

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"phy" wrote:


> Doesn't it follow that since what is old was once new, a lot of it is also
> crap?

Yes, but the redeeming grace of older crap books is that so many of them are
OUT-OF-PRINT.




Correspondent:: "Paul E. Jamison"
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:55:34 -0500

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"phy" wrote in message
news:Xns958CD2B2D554phy00xyahoocom@216.168.3.44...
> Priestess Pisces wrote in
> news:Xns958CD62432FE4priestesspiscesremov@207.69.189.191:
>
> > The same thing happens in books now days. When i enter a library or
> > bookstore, i immediately walk past the new/bestseller/hot/trendy/oprah
> > pulp section. My attitude towards movies and books is the same. A good
> > portion of anything new is crap and i havent even come close to
> > reading/watching all the old stuff yet.
>
> Doesn't it follow that since what is old was once new, a lot of it is also
> crap?
>
Theodore Sturgeon was right: "90% of *everything* is crud". (He apparently
preferred that word to "crap".)

Paul




Correspondent:: "ArWeGod"
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:43:22 GMT

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A confederacy of dunces.




Correspondent:: nenslo
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:38:22 -0700

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Priestess Pisces wrote:
>
>
> > Why is it that Pee Wee's Big Adventure is SO MUCH BETTER than Cat in
> > the Hat it's not fucking funny?

> The same thing happens in books now days. When i enter a library or
> bookstore, i immediately walk past the new/bestseller/hot/trendy/oprah
> pulp section. My attitude towards movies and books is the same. A good
> portion of anything new is crap and i havent even come close to
> reading/watching all the old stuff yet.

Creative genius may be successfully marketed, but no matter how hard you
market something which is at heart solely a product, you cannot make it
be creative. You can't fake bulldada.


Correspondent:: hellpopehuey@subgenius.com (HellPopeHuey)
Date: 26 Oct 2004 12:25:36 -0700

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nenslo wrote in message news:<417D8E6D.A5B105FD@yahoox.com>...

>>>You can't fake bulldada.

But you CAN fake sincerity when you say you don't get deep sexual
gratification from slamming your prong into the mouth of a dead sea
bass and singing an off-key version of the Archies' hit "Sugar Sugar."

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Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:30:47 GMT

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HellPopeHuey wrote:
> nenslo wrote in message news:<417D8E6D.A5B105FD@yahoox.com>...
>
>>>>You can't fake bulldada.
>
> But you CAN fake sincerity when you say you don't get deep sexual
> gratification from slamming your prong into the mouth of a dead sea
> bass and singing an off-key version of the Archies' hit "Sugar Sugar."

Speak for yourself. I can never keep a straight face when I try to say it.


Correspondent:: "ArWeGod"
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:54:18 GMT

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"Cardinal Vertigo" wrote in message
news:HBxfd.16591$5b1.12129@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
> HellPopeHuey wrote:
> > nenslo wrote in message
news:<417D8E6D.A5B105FD@yahoox.com>...
> >
> >>>>You can't fake bulldada.
> >
> > But you CAN fake sincerity when you say you don't get deep sexual
> > gratification from slamming your prong into the mouth of a dead sea
> > bass and singing an off-key version of the Archies' hit "Sugar
Sugar."
>
> Speak for yourself. I can never keep a straight face when I try to
say it.

Obviously it's not meant to be taken literally. It's a metaphor for the
decline of morals in the century to follow. Combining as it does the
prediction of crack ("candy") AND ecstasy ("you got me wanting you")
throughout all levels of a corrupt society ("I'm gonna make your life so
sweet"), as seen from the repetitious phraseology of the frenetic
chorusline as though one were in a drug haze Rave-mantra; it hints at
the purification of methamphetamine into Ice ("honey, honey", a
"sweeter" version of crystal meth "sugar").

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Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:57:47 GMT

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ArWeGod wrote:
> "Cardinal Vertigo" wrote in message
> news:HBxfd.16591$5b1.12129@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
>> HellPopeHuey wrote:
>> > nenslo wrote in message
> news:<417D8E6D.A5B105FD@yahoox.com>...
>> >
>> >>>>You can't fake bulldada.
>> >
>> > But you CAN fake sincerity when you say you don't get deep sexual
>> > gratification from slamming your prong into the mouth of a dead sea
>> > bass and singing an off-key version of the Archies' hit "Sugar
> Sugar."
>>
>> Speak for yourself. I can never keep a straight face when I try to
> say it.
>
> Obviously it's not meant to be taken literally. It's a metaphor for

I stopped reading there. Sorry.


Correspondent:: "ghost"
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 01:38:55 GMT

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"iDRMRSR" wrote in message
news:GoidnaPRz7yO0uHcRVn-3Q@giganews.com...
> Why is it that Pee Wee's Big Adventure is SO MUCH BETTER than Cat in the
Hat
> it's not fucking funny? CITH was on HBO last night and I taped it, not
> having seen it in the theater. B O R I N G.

One word.

Mike Fucking Myers

I dunno... the thing about "Pee Wee's Big Adventure" is that it's basically
an honest, weird little movie done by honest, weird little people. Reubens
plays Pee Wee broad, sure, but not in that smarmy way that Myers puts into
every goddamned thing he does.

Besides, I always thought of the Cat as a more elegant figure... somehow
Astaire-ish... not some dumpy sniggering hyperactive putty-tat.





Correspondent:: "Paul E. Jamison"
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:58:49 -0500

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"ghost" wrote in message
news:POYed.759367$Gx4.401733@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> "iDRMRSR" wrote in message
> news:GoidnaPRz7yO0uHcRVn-3Q@giganews.com...
> > Why is it that Pee Wee's Big Adventure is SO MUCH BETTER than Cat in the
> Hat
> > it's not fucking funny? CITH was on HBO last night and I taped it, not
> > having seen it in the theater. B O R I N G.
>
> One word.
>
> Mike Fucking Myers
>
> I dunno... the thing about "Pee Wee's Big Adventure" is that it's
basically
> an honest, weird little movie done by honest, weird little people. Reubens
> plays Pee Wee broad, sure, but not in that smarmy way that Myers puts into
> every goddamned thing he does.
>
> Besides, I always thought of the Cat as a more elegant figure... somehow
> Astaire-ish... not some dumpy sniggering hyperactive putty-tat.
>
And they DUMPED the poetry! Dr. Suess *is* the fantastic rhymes! When the
people in charge dumped the poetry, they just proved how little Hollywood
gives a damn about - well, about anything. Heartless bastards.

Paul




Correspondent:: "ghost"
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 05:56:50 GMT

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"Paul E. Jamison" wrote in message
news:ZR_ed.49162$%x.36639@okepread04...
> "ghost" wrote in message
> news:POYed.759367$Gx4.401733@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >
> > "iDRMRSR" wrote in message
> > news:GoidnaPRz7yO0uHcRVn-3Q@giganews.com...
> > > Why is it that Pee Wee's Big Adventure is SO MUCH BETTER than Cat in
the
> > Hat
> > > it's not fucking funny? CITH was on HBO last night and I taped it,
not
> > > having seen it in the theater. B O R I N G.
> >
> > One word.
> >
> > Mike Fucking Myers
> >
> > I dunno... the thing about "Pee Wee's Big Adventure" is that it's
> basically
> > an honest, weird little movie done by honest, weird little people.
Reubens
> > plays Pee Wee broad, sure, but not in that smarmy way that Myers puts
into
> > every goddamned thing he does.
> >
> > Besides, I always thought of the Cat as a more elegant figure... somehow
> > Astaire-ish... not some dumpy sniggering hyperactive putty-tat.
> >
> And they DUMPED the poetry! Dr. Suess *is* the fantastic rhymes! When the
> people in charge dumped the poetry, they just proved how little Hollywood
> gives a damn about - well, about anything. Heartless bastards.
>
> Paul

The rhymes are still in there... you just have to dig through all the shit
dialogue that's padding it.




Correspondent:: "ArWeGod"
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:49:35 GMT

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"Paul E. Jamison" wrote in message
news:ZR_ed.49162$%x.36639@okepread04...
> And they DUMPED the poetry! Dr. Suess *is* the fantastic rhymes! When
the
> people in charge dumped the poetry, they just proved how little
Hollywood
> gives a damn about - well, about anything. Heartless bastards.

Naw. It's the audience that doesn't give a crap.

--
ArWeMorons




Correspondent:: wbarwell
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 01:46:37 -0400

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iDRMRSR wrote:

> Why is it that Pee Wee's Big Adventure is SO MUCH BETTER than Cat in the
> Hat
> it's not fucking funny? CITH was on HBO last night and I taped it, not
> having seen it in the theater. B O R I N G.
>
> Yet much of the on screen imagery and ensuing chaos was similar in many
> ways, visually.
>
> How could anybody want to live after making a movie that makes Pee Wee
> Herman look GOOD anyhow?

Hey, it was a paycheck for a lot of jerks.
Why Mike Meyers? Maybe if they had got Paul Ruben...

I hear Travolta is still wanting to get Battlefield Earth
Part II made. Too bad Edward D. Wood is dead.





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Correspondent:: Zapanaz
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:08:39 -0700

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On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 01:46:37 -0400, wbarwell
wrote:

>I hear Travolta is still wanting to get Battlefield Earth
>Part II made. Too bad Edward D. Wood is dead.

Ed Wood is dead but John Travolta's brain lives on. You call that a
well-balanced universe?



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