Debating the "debates"

Correspondent:: modemac@modemac.com (Modemac)
Date: 1 Oct 2004 02:49:17 -0700

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I'll have to admit that the non-debates between Al Gore and George
Bush back in 2000 did indeed influence my vote. Specifically, when
they barred Nader from taking part in the debate, I knew then that the
whole thing was a sham, and I think it was at that point that I
decided, even though I had voted Democrat in every previous election,
I wasn't going to vote for Gore. Not because I was ecstatic about
Nader, but because I didn't like Gore *or* Bush.

I remember watching the 1988 debate between Dan Quayle and Lloyd
Bentsen. Bentsen gave his now-famous line "You're no Jack Kennedy."
Many audience members applauded LOUDLY. Quayle responded lamely:
"That was really uncalled for, Senator." Many audience members
applauded LOUDLY. In other words, they "had" to give an equally loud
response to do damage control and spin.

Here's an interesting little piece provided by a friend on IRC
#subgenius when we were discussing this sham:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4052162


Correspondent:: "nu-monet v7.0"
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 07:12:29 -0700

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Modemac wrote:
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> In other words, they "had" to give an equally loud
> response to do damage control and spin.

You know how comedians sometimes used canned
applause and laughter intentionally cut too short
or used incorrectly, to make a gag?

Someone should re-edit the Presidential debates to
do that for the candidates. But do it all wrong.

"My opponent Mr Bush,..." (whistles) "say that we
should keep up the struggle against terrorism,..."
(laughter) "but I say we should take the fight
to the enemy." (laughter and applause).

I think this would seriously improve the debate.

"Mr Kerry says,..." (applause) "that the economy is
in decline, that America is suffering from economic
malaise..." (applause) "But I say the the economy is
booming and that the future is bright!" (loud boos).

Maybe it is a cure for empty platitudes and doublespeak.


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Correspondent:: Rev DJ Epoch
Date: 1 Oct 2004 18:15:07 GMT

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"nu-monet v7.0" wrote in news:415D65CD.7E39
@succeeds.com:

> Modemac wrote:
>>
>> In other words, they "had" to give an equally loud
>> response to do damage control and spin.
>
> You know how comedians sometimes used canned
> applause and laughter intentionally cut too short
> or used incorrectly, to make a gag?
>
> Someone should re-edit the Presidential debates to
> do that for the candidates. But do it all wrong.
>
> "My opponent Mr Bush,..." (whistles) "say that we
> should keep up the struggle against terrorism,..."
> (laughter) "but I say we should take the fight
> to the enemy." (laughter and applause).
>
> I think this would seriously improve the debate.
>
> "Mr Kerry says,..." (applause) "that the economy is
> in decline, that America is suffering from economic
> malaise..." (applause) "But I say the the economy is
> booming and that the future is bright!" (loud boos).
>
> Maybe it is a cure for empty platitudes and doublespeak.
>
>

I am alomst certain that one Rev. Phineas Narco at the Natioanl Cynical
Network will work on such a project as soon as he can grab an audio copy of
the debates.

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Correspondent:: kdetal@aol.com (KD et al)
Date: 02 Oct 2004 00:31:16 GMT

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>Modemac wrote:
>>>
>>> In other words, they "had" to give an equally loud
>>> response to do damage control and spin.
>>
>> You know how comedians sometimes used canned
>> applause and laughter intentionally cut too short
>> or used incorrectly, to make a gag?
>>
>> Someone should re-edit the Presidential debates to
>> do that for the candidates. But do it all wrong.
>>
>> "My opponent Mr Bush,..." (whistles) "say that we
>> should keep up the struggle against terrorism,..."
>> (laughter) "but I say we should take the fight
>> to the enemy." (laughter and applause).
>>
>> I think this would seriously improve the debate.
>>
>> "Mr Kerry says,..." (applause) "that the economy is
>> in decline, that America is suffering from economic
>> malaise..." (applause) "But I say the the economy is
>> booming and that the future is bright!" (loud boos).
>>
>> Maybe it is a cure for empty platitudes and doublespeak.
>>
>>
>
>I am alomst certain that one Rev. Phineas Narco at the Natioanl Cynical
>Network will work on such a project as soon as he can grab an audio copy of
>the debates.

I am almost certain that The Daily Show had this in the can by the time the
first post in this thread went up.
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