Clinton Orders Oklahoma Bombing

From: i.stang@metronet.com (Rev. Ivan Stang)

In article <mtownsend-2404950732010001@ip98.portland.me.interramp.com>,
mtownsend@interramp.com (Michael Townsend) wrote:

> In article <modemacD7CLI5.D6L@netcom.com>, modemac@netcom.com (Modemac) wrote:
>

> Here's how Sherman Skolnick weighed in on the subject:
>

Blah blah, woof woof.... there are probably even SOME people who think it
was nothing but a couple of insecure po'bucker dumbasses trying to prove
they had dicks, the only way they know how.

All I know is, Will O'Dobbs in the mail room here is in a HEAP of trouble.
First he screws up this big order from a Japanese company -- mistakes the
light blue Bobbie Soul cannisters with the DARK blue nerve gas cannisters
-- then he sends 1 Church Air tank and 6 damn 'FROP-FERTILIZER tubes to
Michigan, when what they PAID for was 7 CHURCH AIR tanks!! No squid for
Will THIS week.

Incidentally -- you know those guys with Dutch radio who were talking here
about doing a special on the Church? Well, they did it. But the tapes I
sent 'em never arrived, so they called up Doktors whose phone numbers I'd
given 'em. Yesterday Palmer Vreedeez was awakened at 8 IN THE MORNING --
the middle of the night, by his sleep cycle -- and it's Dutch guys saying,
"May we speak to "Bob"? Did you bomb the building in Oklahoma City?"
Palmer groggily mumbled something to the effect of, "Hell no, that's way
too small-time for us. Those pikers... Dobbs has stuff stashed four miles
under the Alps... when he decides to make his political statement, you
WON'T be watching it on TV afterwards." Palmer had no idea he was on Dutch
radio, live. Where the conversation went after that, I don't know. Perhaps
our Dutch friends will send us tapes of that.

Back to the subject...

Oh, YEAH, I just BET we'll be seeing 'em round up "REPUBLICAN
CONSERVATIVES" and put 'em in CAMPS.

OH, wait, no we won't! I forgot. The liberal controlled media would never
let anybody SEE that. For all we know it might already have happened. I'll
bet the Liberals(SOCIALISTS) have ALREADY rounded up and gassed the
Republican Conservatives -- all those TALK SHOW HOSTS are just PAID
ACTORS, DECOYS to make us think that the Liberals(COMMUNISTS) haven't
already WON!!! Why, I'll bet all our REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVE FRIENDS have
been KILLED and REPLACED with LIBERAL(ONE-WORLDER) LOOKALIKES!! In fact, I
guess there's nothing left to do now, but KILL EVERYBODYL AND LET DOBBS
SORT 'EM OUT!

JESUS R. CHRIST!!! You people argue back and forth about who's the worst
bad guys, the "liberals" or the "conservatives," which makes for a NICE
DISTRACTION from that fact that ALL ABNORMALS ARE ALREADY CAGED AND LINED
UP FOR SLAUGHTER IN AN ESCAPE-PROOF CONCENTRATION CAMP COMPOSED OF THE
LIVING, SEETHING BODIES AND MINDS OF ALL NORMALS. You can't see the prison
for the bars. Your worst nightmare already came true thousands of years
ago and you're so USED to it you think it's "NORMAL." AND THAT'S JUST
WHAT IT IS!!!

You know what to do. SubGenius terrorism. Put chewed bubble gum under the
armrests of theater seats. Don't flush after using public toilets. Draw
funny pictures of the teacher. Print up satirical pamphlets and books
about how we must fight the Conspiracy. Post opinions on newsgroups.
Invent designer viruses that let only those humans with Yeti genes
survive.

We'll show them.

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MegaFisTemple Lodge of People's Covenant Church of the
Wrath of Dobbs Yeti, Resurrected / The SubGenius Foundation,Inc.
PO Box 140306 Dallas TX 75214 / Fax 214-320-1561 / PRABOB

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Subject: Re: CLINTON ORDERS OKLA. BOMBING?
From: i.stang@metronet.com (Rev. Ivan Stang)

In article <3nc3s5$kv2@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>, ncm5662@is2.nyu.edu (Nicole C.
Michaud) wrote:

> The thing that concerns me about this is all this talk about cracking
> down on "anti-government" groups; "monitoring" them and such, including
> groups that "don't believe in paying taxes" and other such
> "anti-government" ideologies.
>
> It's been said it'll be tough to be a SubGenius in the end times.....
> could we be considered "anti-government"?
>

Certainly not! Dobbs has always urged STRONGER government. Indeed, each
and every single individual SubGenius should in theory bear all the powers
of the current Federal Government and then some.

Those left planetside after X-Day can work it out among themselves.

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From: dynasor@infi.net (Dennis McClain-Furmanski)

On Thu. Apr 27, 1995, i.stang@metronet.com told All:

isc> JESUS R. CHRIST!!! You people argue back and forth about who's the
> worst bad guys, the "liberals" or the "conservatives," which makes
> for a NICE DISTRACTION from that fact that ALL ABNORMALS ARE ALREADY
> CAGED AND LINED UP FOR SLAUGHTER IN AN ESCAPE-PROOF CONCENTRATION
> CAMP COMPOSED OF THE LIVING, SEETHING BODIES AND MINDS OF ALL
> NORMALS. You can't see the prison for the bars. Your worst nightmare
> already came true thousands of years ago and you're so USED to it
> you think it's "NORMAL." AND THAT'S JUST WHAT IT IS!!!

I tried that Ivan. They can't hear it. It's like the Patagonians when the
HMS Beagle arrived carrying Darwin. The huge ship was too far out of their
realm of experience -- they couldn't even see it to fear it as a strange
beast or angry god. They ignored it. Now, when the sailors got in the
little dinghies and started rowing to shore, THAT was something they could
see, and they all went into party mode and rowed out to meet them.

Some people have the will to control their own vehicle. But some require
the structure of preprogrammed foragainstism in order to make what they
consider to be progress. We, of course, know that it's progress straight
downhill. They need the twin steel rails of the two "party" system to
ride their Styx Express to oblivion. The alternative is these behemoths
of high speed destruction roaming the country side, destroying everything
but what they're supposed to, which is themselves. I say leave them to
their tracks -- it's safer for the rest of us.

* 2qwk! 1.26b3 * Honest, officer! The dwarf was on fire when I got here.

--
dynasor@infi.net The Doctor is on.

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From: ljduchez@en.com (Lou Duchez)

In article <3npjib$rde@lucy.infi.net>,
dynasor@infi.net (Dennis McClain-Furmanski) wrote:
>
> I tried that Ivan. They can't hear it. It's like the Patagonians when the
> HMS Beagle arrived carrying Darwin. The huge ship was too far out of their
> realm of experience -- they couldn't even see it to fear it as a strange
> beast or angry god. They ignored it.

But *everything* is completely out of everyone's experience until
they experience it. Yeah, ya can't expect miracles the first time
you explain something to someone, but at least a seed is planted ...
sometimes, anyway.

(Incidentally, Dynasoar, I wonder if the Patagonians were demonstrating
a Jaynesian non-conscious mentality by not seeing the ship. But I digress.)

You're right, the 'Crat vs. 'Pub, (their brand of) Conservative vs.
(their brand of) Liberal dichotomies are pretty pathetic to
subscribe to. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't at least lend
a voice to back what you believe in.

(SubGenius rationalization:) There are endless unsaved Yetis out
there. Ya have to do what you can to awaken them. The first step
is to clue them into Slack, and you do that by reminding them of
what's being taken away from them. This leads into the Conspiracy.
The Con is an easy entity to prove: just demonstrate how many
facts are being suppressed ...

And yes, both 'Crats and 'Pubs are agents of the Con. That doesn't
mean that both are equally vile -- perhaps they are from a moral
point of view, but not from a "Slack-robbing deeds" point of view.

And have you achieved the Slack that allows you to prosper no
matter what the Con does? I didn't think so. So don't you
have some sort of vested interest in trying to nudge the Con
to less-destructive paths?

(political rationalization:) Just because it's an unideal system,
doesn't mean that you should just let it run roughshod. "They didn't
have anyone I really liked, so I didn't vote." Exactly how many
people *didn't* vote last year? And look what we got in Congress.
Say what you want about what dorks the 'Crats produce, but they
can't even begin to touch the 'Pubs in destructive potential (and
willingness to actualize that potential). If ya don't vote, someone
else's bad choices take effect.

And along the same lines, there is really no moral choice other than
opposing those who deserve it, and trying to tell people why "they"
(whoever they are) must be opposed. Yes, Joe Dittohead may not want to
hear it when you tell him that Clinton actually *lowered* his taxes
and the 'Pubs are out to raise it, but the fact *is* rattling
around his melon somewhere. It just might take root at some point.
This is to say nothing of all the innocent bystanders who just
happen to read the message ...

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"Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it
has to be us."

-- Jerry Garcia

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Subject: Where will Dog Fart Explosion strike next?

From: ricky@usenet.nerdc.ufl.edu (St. Ain-Soph)

Indeed! Where?

Look! Behind the trashcan! It's FART-DOG.

Striking out at the Conspiracy. They can run but they can't
hide. FA-BOOM-RT!! The SubGenii are avenged!

.......................TEAR.ALONG.THE.DOTTED.LINE.......................
Epopt of the Exploding Head of JFK Licensed to blaspheme the Gods!
My skull is bigger on the inside than the outside!
Send $1 to SubGenius Foundation, P.O. Box 140306, Dallas TX 75214

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Subject: Re: CLINTON ORDERS OKLA. BOMBING?
From: ac118@lafn.org (Matthew Carey)

In a previous article, jamie@moncomm.clark.net (Jamie Schrumpf) says:
>
>We perhaps should pause here to consider that the US _is_ one of the few
>countries whose laws permit groups to be "anti-government" in the first
>place, even to the extreme of the "Michigan Militia"

Yeah, for now.

>Remember too, that it is unConstitutional to advocate the overthrow of
>the duly elected US government.

See, there you go.

--
Rev. Matthew A. Carey Rips \ on Vision Temple--Tarzana, CA
18653 Ventura Blvd., Suite #379 ]\[ "We are not an occult."
Tarzana, Calif. 91356 Rips \ off mnbvc
ac118@lafn.org ]\[

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From: ljduchez@en.com (Lou Duchez)
Subject: Re: CLINTON ORDERS OKLA. BOMBING?

In article <3ndod8$oj9@clarknet.clark.net>,
jamie@moncomm.clark.net (Jamie Schrumpf) wrote:
>
> Remember too, that it is unConstitutional to advocate the overthrow of
> the duly elected US government. The "Declaration of Independence" is now
> outlawed. (Reread TJ's opus to see what I mean.)

One of our most treasured documents is a paper demanding revolution.

It would be a beautiful message, if we didn't keep electing such shits.

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From: jamie@moncomm.clark.net (Jamie Schrumpf)
Subject: Re: CLINTON ORDERS OKLA. BOMBING?

Yeah, but my point was that the Constitution has OUTLAWED the sentiments
expresses in the Declaraion of Independence, i.e. it was OK then, but
don't try it anymore.

Besides, all the shits that get elected are OUR FAULT, and if you don't
vote they're STILL your fault for not voting AGAINST them. You can't
duck responsibility for it.

--Jamie
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From: clavis@phantom.com (Grand Clavister)
Subject: Re: CLINTON ORDERS OKLA. BOMBING?

Gee... you mean that if we rebelled, in an attempt to overthrow the
government and install a new one, that the old government would condider
that ILLEGAL!? :) Fuck 'em. Unless we can overcome the "supression of the
proles" a la '1984', we don't ever have to bother worrying about getting
enough people together for a mass revolution.

: Besides, all the shits that get elected are OUR FAULT, and if you don't
: vote they're STILL your fault for not voting AGAINST them. You can't
: duck responsibility for it.

Excuse me, Jamie, I beg to differ. (Actually, NO, I don't 'beg', I just
DIFFER, whether you like it or not!) When two billion-dollar
organizations like the Repubican Party and the Democrabic Party "agree to
disagree" and make sure that THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO EVER GET ON THE BALLOT
IN THE FIRST PLACE FOR YOU TO CHOOSE BETWEEN are Rep's and Dec's, then it
isn't exactly my fault that one of them ends up elected and does his/her
usually shitty job. I'm not ducking responsibility for anything. I just
don't have 10 million bucks to spend on running as an independent. That,
however, won't stop me from running for mayor of NYC in a few years. I
just need to work up some capital. I'VE ALREADY GOT THE CAPITAL LETTERS!!

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From: jamie@moncomm.clark.net (Jamie Schrumpf)
Subject: Re: CLINTON ORDERS OKLA. BOMBING?

In article <3oj9l1$q8v@dockmaster.phantom.com>, clavis@phantom.com
says...
>
>Gee... you mean that if we rebelled, in an attempt to overthrow the
>government and install a new one, that the old government would condider
>that ILLEGAL!? :) Fuck 'em. Unless we can overcome the "supression of
the
>proles" a la '1984', we don't ever have to bother worrying about getting
>enough people together for a mass revolution.

Hey man, I'm just pointing out the FACTS of the state-of-the-rebellion
circa The Foul Year of Our Lord 1995 A.D. I mean, when the CONstitution
(when the Pinks took over from the SubGenii who started it all) was
written, they COULD have inserted a clause saying that if we all got sick
and tired of our government, we could vote in whatever form we wanted, no
matter HOW CRAZY and INSANE it might appear to be.

>
>Excuse me, Jamie, I beg to differ. (Actually, NO, I don't 'beg', I just
>DIFFER, whether you like it or not!) When two billion-dollar
>organizations like the Repubican Party and the Democrabic Party "agree
to
>disagree" and make sure that THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO EVER GET ON THE BALLOT
>IN THE FIRST PLACE FOR YOU TO CHOOSE BETWEEN are Rep's and Dec's,

Whaddya mean, the only two parties? There were several Libertarians on
the ballot here in MD, and boatloads in indies and write-ins. If enough
of those LAZY-ASS PROLES that you're so fond of would START VOTING FOR
SOMETHING instead of AGAINST who they're told their ENEMIES are, maybe we
could get somewhere.

Remember, those people who voted for PEROT were noticed by the BIG TWO.
Now they FEAR THEM!

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