Leaving On a Saucer song, Nen-Attack

From: toxiccow@mindspring.com (Toxic Cow)
Subject: Re: Leaving On A Saucer (an X-day ballad)
Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 04:50:24 GMT

e/wbear@hibernia.ca (Air Bear) wrote:

>Leaving On A Saucer
>===================
>All my bags are packed, my guns are cleaned,
>With fully loaded magazines,
>I hate to shake you up, but I'll sure try,
>For the dawn is breaking, it's early morn,
>The Xists waiting, your time has come,
>Already it's too late, and so you die.

Awesome, way awesome! We will have to get together on saucer #7 for a
song-along, okay?

----------------------------------------------------------------------

From: David Voth <drv1@concentric.net>

unit24@sputum.com wrote:
>
> On Thu, 02 Jul 1998 11:49:05 GMT, e/wbear@hibernia.ca (Air Bear) wrote:
>
> >Leaving On A Saucer
> >===================
> >All my bags are packed, my guns are cleaned,
> >With fully loaded magazines,
> >I hate to shake you up, but I'll sure try,

<snip>

> e/w, you are my ShoDurPerSav for at least the next hour. Maybe longer if
> I can't get this soung outa my mind.

I nominate e/w for Sainthood for all the wonderful lyrics.

Reverend David "Yeah, man. I've got a prescription for that!" Voth
Amateur Mad Seismologist Clench

--
All Hail the Knights of Xenu RC5-64 Crypto Cracking Team!
We're "upstat" and growing fast.
See http://www.xenu.net/archive/events/KoX-rc5des/

----------------------------------------------------------------------

From: NENSLO <n@n.slo>
Organization: V.I.T.R.I.O.L.

And then people wonder why I don't want to hang out with "subgeniuses."
These filksongs are so fucking lame, weak and pathetic I could puke.
I HATE YOU man.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

From: mtown11send@earth11link.net (Michael Townsend)

In article <359D8D9A.4B7ADDB7@concentric.net>, drv1@concentric.net wrote:

--> I nominate e/w for Sainthood for all the wonderful lyrics.

Mr. Bear, I gotta agree, this outpouring of spoofy creativity deserves
some special recognition - compiled on the fully de-designed Post-X
Subsite, if nothing else. Recorded with David Newfeld held to the
engineer's chair with big leather straps, and released on CD to widespread
critical acclaim.

But Sainthood? I say go the full boat: Martyrdom.

--
dad's (new) slacks po box 4722 portland me 04112-4722
remove "11 11" for email k

----------------------------------------------------------------------

From: e/wbear@hibernia.ca (e/w bear)

In article <359DDA93.456C@n.slo>, NENSLO <n@n.slo> wrote:

> And then people wonder why I don't want to hang out with "subgeniuses."
> These filksongs are so fucking lame, weak and pathetic I could puke.
> I HATE YOU man.

Ahhh... but you ARE hanging out with them, aren't you? Not only that,
you're involved to the point you feel you have to hate at least one of
them. If my songs annoy you, don't read them. It's really that simple. On
the other hand, if getting me to hate you back is the name of the game,
then I'm afraid you're wasting your time. I have other fish to fry.
---
ewb

----------------------------------------------------------------------

From: e/wbear@hibernia.ca (e/w bear)
From: David Voth <drv1@concentric.net>

e/w bear wrote:
>
> In article <359DDA93.456C@n.slo>, NENSLO <n@n.slo> wrote:
>
> > And then people wonder why I don't want to hang out with "subgeniuses."
> > These filksongs are so fucking lame, weak and pathetic I could puke.
> > I HATE YOU man.
>
> Ahhh... but you ARE hanging out with them, aren't you? Not only that,
> you're involved to the point you feel you have to hate at least one of
> them.

Weren't you going to do one about NENSLO's paintings?

Reverend David Voth
Amateur Mad Seismologist Clench
--
All Hail the Knights of Xenu RC5-64 Crypto Cracking Team!
We're "upstat" and growing fast.
See http://www.xenu.net/archive/events/KoX-rc5des/

----------------------------------------------------------------------

From: NENSLO <n@n.slo>

e/w bear wrote:
>
> In article <359DDA93.456C@n.slo>, NENSLO <n@n.slo> wrote:
>
> > And then people wonder why I don't want to hang out with "subgeniuses."
> > These filksongs are so fucking lame, weak and pathetic I could puke.
> > I HATE YOU man.
>
> Ahhh... but you ARE hanging out with them, aren't you? Not only that,
> you're involved to the point you feel you have to hate at least one of
> them.

Oy yoy yoy! Out-logicked again! Oh the humiliation.

> If my songs annoy you, don't read them. It's really that simple.

It's not the songs themselves that annoy me - it's the fact that they
exist - that someone is squandering their talents, efforts and abilities
so far as to take some dumbass pop song and sit scratching the side of
their heads with a pencil eraser saying, " dwuh,... let me see... where
it says love, I'll say slack! and where it says you I'll say Bob! hyuck
hyuck! " For shits sake if you are going to write a song, write your
OWN song. Don't just take somebody else's work and change two words and
flatter yourself that you've done something intelligent or worthy. If
you are going to do that, why not re-write Lord of the Rings or Moby
Dick and just change half a dozen words so it's about the church of the
subgenius? Why not re-write the constitution and the bill of rights or
the fucking magna charta only changing it so it's about "Bob" and
slack! Why not just take every fucking christian hymn ever written and
where it says god say bob? Why not just take turds and shape them like
chocolates and call them candy? I'm not trying to get you to feel
anything about me - I'm trying to get you to wake up your slumbering
faculties and do something of YOUR OWN, not cheap pirating of somebody
else's work that makes the whole church look like a bunch of flabby
thick-lensed scifi con attendees dressing like Han Solo and singing
songs about Marian Zimmer Bradley to the tune of something from Grease
or Phantom of the Opera. It's degrading, idiotic, pathetic and lame. I
wrote a song myself, EVEN THE TUNE, called "Stick a "Bob" head on it."
It's about how BOBBIES think being a SUBGENIUS requires nothing more
than taking something somebody else did and sticking a fucking "Bob"
head on it and mailing it to Stang.

I DARE YOU TO DO SOMETHING ENTIRELY YOUR OWN JUST ONCE. Then you can go
back to sleep for the rest of your life.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

From: bobdiddley@aol.com (Bobdiddley)

>NENSLO <n@n.slo> wrote:
>

>It's not the songs themselves that annoy me - it's the fact that they
>exist - that someone is squandering their talents, efforts and abilities
>so far as to take some dumbass pop song and sit scratching the side of
>their heads with a pencil eraser saying, " dwuh,... let me see... where
>it says love, I'll say slack! and where it says you I'll say Bob! hyuck
>hyuck! " For shits sake if you are going to write a song, write your
>OWN song.

Not that I disagree with this notion, but as a writer of original songs, I feel
we are limited, in this text-only newsgroup, as to how we express the intended
tempo and melody of songs without a reference point. Hence, the MAD magazine
approach. Some of e-bear's parodies I didn't get, because I couldn't remember
the song he was parodying.


Bob Diddley
Last Bobtist Church of the Pretty Far North
"Pull the wool over your own eyes, eh?"

----------------------------------------------------------------------

From: TheCharlie <charliec@cybernex.net>

NENSLO wrote:

> For shits sake if you are going to write a song, write your
> OWN song. Don't just take somebody else's work and change two words and
> flatter yourself that you've done something intelligent or worthy. If
> you are going to do that, why not re-write Lord of the Rings or Moby
> Dick and just change half a dozen words so it's about the church of the
> subgenius? Why not re-write the constitution and the bill of rights or
> the fucking magna charta only changing it so it's about "Bob" and

Okay, okay. So, just so we get this straight, do you
want to do the Magna Carta or the Bill of Rights?

I mean.. this was your idea, so you get first dibs..

----------------------------------------------------------------------

From: e/wbear@hibernia.ca (e/w bear)

Most of my songs are written at work, so it's not MY time I'm wasting.
Besides, who said I HAD any talent or abilities to waste? I make no claims
in that regard.

For shits sake if you are going to write a song, write your
> OWN song. Don't just take somebody else's work and change two words and
> flatter yourself that you've done something intelligent or worthy.

Wasn't aware that I WAS flattering myself. Maybe other's do, but that's up
to them. I can write my own songs of course, but then they wouldn't be
parodies and people couldn't sing along unless I posted the music. I could
do it on a website and post the URL, but why waste the effort when no one's
going to visit it? How many websites do you visit? Kevbob's and Felix's
are the only ones I bother with. The way I figure it, I've already paid my
internet dues. I operated a video conference for over a year and small
thanks I got for that. If you think the flames on usenet are hot try
keeping a flock of would-be sex-goddesses and their entourage happy. You
can keep the love saucers. I've been there.

If you are going to do that, why not re-write Lord of the Rings or Moby
> Dick and just change half a dozen words so it's about the church of the
> subgenius? Why not re-write the constitution and the bill of rights or
> the fucking magna charta only changing it so it's about "Bob" and
> slack! Why not just take every fucking christian hymn ever written and
> where it says god say bob? Why not just take turds and shape them like
> chocolates and call them candy?

Because it's already been done in spades. This entire religion is a
re-write, or hadn't you noticed? Did it occur to you that maybe it's THAT
aspect of the Church that I'm attempting to parody? There IS some
interesting philosophy underlying the Church... stuff with substance, but
when I start down that road I get: "You're doing it all wrong", or
something to that effect. No explanations offered, mind you, on how I
_ought_ to be doing it. No debate. No discourse. Mention Bob Dean or
Marshal McLuhan and you'll see what I mean. Few here have made any effort
to figure out what either of them were on about, and yet many feel free to
pass judgement based on some old vendetta that happened before they were
out of diapers. Hatfields and McCoys. Hillbilly hippies playing shoot the
revenooer.

I'm not trying to get you to feel
> anything about me - I'm trying to get you to wake up your slumbering
> faculties and do something of YOUR OWN, not cheap pirating of somebody
> else's work that makes the whole church look like a bunch of flabby
> thick-lensed scifi con attendees dressing like Han Solo and singing
> songs about Marian Zimmer Bradley to the tune of something from Grease
> or Phantom of the Opera. It's degrading, idiotic, pathetic and lame. I
> wrote a song myself, EVEN THE TUNE, called "Stick a "Bob" head on it."
> It's about how BOBBIES think being a SUBGENIUS requires nothing more
> than taking something somebody else did and sticking a fucking "Bob"
> head on it and mailing it to Stang.

I care squat what Stang or anyone else thinks of me and even less what joe
public thinks about our Church. If Stang hadn't started the Church someone
else would have and it would have been just as lame. As far as I'm
concerned, everything to come along since we first rubbed two sticks
together is a replay of the past. You can't get away from that fact
because it's the nature of the beast. It's why the offspring of cats look
like cats and not antelope. Nature has certain well worn themes and we
just happen to be one of them. Anyone alive today who flatters themselves
that they are doing something original and creative is fooling both
themselves AND their audience.
>
> I DARE YOU TO DO SOMETHING ENTIRELY YOUR OWN JUST ONCE. Then you can go
> back to sleep for the rest of your life.

I am the sum total of everything that preceeded me. The only thing that
sets me apart is that I recognize the fact. It's a discovery I made long
before I ever heard of the Church. What attracted me to the Church is that
there are others here who've also noticed that, and thus we share a common
bond. Frankly, it's individuals within the Church that I want to engage. I
don't feel particularly inspired to stand out above the noise or to make a
name for myself. There's plenty of others filling that niche. If I happen
to become famous for 15 minutes, don't blame me. I was just trying to have
some fun.

Frankly this whole fucking Church could disappear TOMORROW and it wouldn't
make a damn bit of difference to me because the people I care about would
bother to stay in touch and in time form a new Church. Call it "The Church
of the Survivors of Bob and Stuff." The name's not important, it's the
fact that you have a venue for pleasurable discourse and emotional growth.
I'm not interested in establishing my individuality or superiority at this
stage in my life. I'm already part of a viable real world clench of folks
who care about and love one another. I'm tribal. So are you or you
wouldn't be here.

Peace,

ebear

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Path: spln!extra.newsguy.com!lotsanews.com!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!newsgate.direct.ca!not-for-mail
From: e/wbear@hibernia.ca (e/w bear)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Subject: Re: Leaving On A Saucer (an X-day ballad)
Message-ID: <e/wbear-ya02408000R0407981750000001@news.direct.ca>
References: <359E8A53.6C5D@n.slo> <1998070423232100.TAA27670@ladder03.news.aol.com>
Organization: Musical Bears
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.4.0
Lines: 25
Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 00:52:04 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.174.245.152
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 17:52:04 PDT
Xref: spln alt.slack:114733

In article <1998070423232100.TAA27670@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
bobdiddley@aol.com (Bobdiddley) wrote:

> >NENSLO <n@n.slo> wrote:
> >
>
> >It's not the songs themselves that annoy me - it's the fact that they
> >exist - that someone is squandering their talents, efforts and abilities
> >so far as to take some dumbass pop song and sit scratching the side of
> >their heads with a pencil eraser saying, " dwuh,... let me see... where
> >it says love, I'll say slack! and where it says you I'll say Bob! hyuck
> >hyuck! " For shits sake if you are going to write a song, write your
> >OWN song.
>
> Not that I disagree with this notion, but as a writer of original songs,
I feel
> we are limited, in this text-only newsgroup, as to how we express the intended
> tempo and melody of songs without a reference point. Hence, the MAD magazine
> approach. Some of e-bear's parodies I didn't get, because I couldn't remember
> the song he was parodying.
>
which is why i stick (for the most part) to well known songs, unless I can
locate the wav files somewhere and post the URL.
---
ewb

----------------------------------------------------------------------

From: norway@bitemespamboysIHUG.CO.NZ (Anthony Lawless)

On Sun, 05 Jul 1998 00:14:13 GMT, e/wbear@hibernia.ca (e/w bear)
wrote:

>I care squat what Stang or anyone else thinks of me and even less what joe
>public thinks about our Church. If Stang hadn't started the Church someone
>else would have and it would have been just as lame. As far as I'm
>concerned, everything to come along since we first rubbed two sticks
>together is a replay of the past. You can't get away from that fact
>because it's the nature of the beast. It's why the offspring of cats look
>like cats and not antelope. Nature has certain well worn themes and we
>just happen to be one of them. Anyone alive today who flatters themselves
>that they are doing something original and creative is fooling both
>themselves AND their audience.

You, sir, are a sick traitor to humanity and should be made to pay
dearly for your part in turning the world into a FESTERING HELLHOLE
that not even the Yacatisma could be bothered destroying. Praise of
mediocrity is the mark of the conspiracy, and I CAST YOU OUT.

Anthony "Slug of Doom" Lawless, GCP
Musician, writer, theoretician, micronationalist and witch
http://shell.ihug.co.nz/~norway/lawless.htm
"Love has come, love has come. Inside, outside, it shall be revealed." - Todd Rundgren

----------------------------------------------------------------------

From: e/wbear@hibernia.ca (Bear22)

In article <35a02886.8655905@newsource.ihug.co.nz>,
norway@bitemespamboysIHUG.CO.NZ (Anthony Lawless) wrote:

You mean like trout fishing? You want to use me as bait?
Wait...cast me "OUT"!!! I get it! Sorry, can't be done. I was never "IN".

22

Back to document index

Original file name: Leaving On A Saucer NenAttack

This file was converted with TextToHTML - (c) Logic n.v.