The Drill .. the Drill... the damned Drill!

From: dflync01@homer.louisville.edu (David F Lynch)
Date: 13 Jul 1997

TheCharlie (NOSPAMcharliec@cybernex.net) wrote:
:
: (admission here.. I still don't know shit about the church, even after 3 years
: following alt.slack and reading, listening etc. and I don't particularly
: care either. I went to meet the people. pink, huh?)

No, fuck that. I think I was saying something like this at the drill;
people talk about this "church shopping" shit all the time like it was
another one of those fucking Yuppie outgrowths of creeping consumerism.
I'm sure this'll surprise the hell out of Stang, who still apparently
believes that Subgenii are not supposed to be able to stand each other,
but any religion has a hell of a lot to do with your religious community,
and that's us, folks. Doctrine? Hell, I could've gotten this stuff from
most any religion. I could've stayed Catholic. I could've taken up
Zen. I could've become an atheist. Whatever; eternal truths are eternal
truths, right? But the primary reason I'm a Subgenius instead of a member
of some other major religion is because the vast majority of you folks are
pretty good people. Who the hell wants to be in a Church with a bunch of
total assholes?

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Brrr-woowoowooowooowoowoo-brrrRRRRRrrrrr (Galaxians 7/83)
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From: pmcguirk@voyager2.cns.ohiou.edu (Patrick McGuirk)
Subject: Re: FUCKING FELLOWSHIP! [was Re: The Drill .. the Drill . the damned drill!]

In article <33C77E7E.60D7@flash.net>,
Robert ' Zach ' Garland <bobdobbs@flash.net> wrote:
>The Charlie said:
>>
>> (admission here.. I still don't know shit about the church, even after
>> 3 years following alt.slack and reading, listening etc. and I don't
>> particularly care either. I went to meet the people. pink, huh?)

It's only pink if you exchanged business cards and said "Catchya later,
babe!" with a swank pat on the back. And even then, hell, I dunno, don't
care. I'm pink, its mostly due to my inability to tan tho.

>Bullshit. I'm sorry. That last statement may have meant to be an
>innocent one from Charlie, and I think it was just meant for Stanger,
>but it just dug into my craw.

REQ: Define craw, you seem to have a piece of anatomy I lack, but if
something can be dug into it, perhaps I want one. Will you sell me yours?

>Wait! I'm NOT fucking sorry. That's the POINT. Charlie said that like it
>was an admission of guilt. That he was apologizin' for bein' PINK. Hyuh!
>Bull fucking shit. Charlie yer full of it if you think you have to
>apologize for that, or if you think hangin' with people is pink.

If only more people apologized for being pink we'd have easier targets!

>There's one thing that as far as I can tell is consistent in ALL
>religions. It transcends any kind of 'stigma' or 'label' which can be
>placed upon it. The name for this is merely a word used not to define or
>categorize it, but to describe it.
>
>That word is fellowship.

I was thinking "Triangle Scheme" or "Pyramid Scam" but maybe you're
right...

>It's not pink. It's not Yeti. It's just there. SHIT! I'm fuckin' TIRED
>of seein' labels put on everything in sight! That's what the CON does.
>If members of this Church don't like something, or question something,
>they think they can label it 'Pink' and everything's KOSHER.

Whoa there cownerd! I've gotta fundamental issue with you based on
Linguistics and low-level semiotics. Umberto Eco and I are gonna be
knocking on your door asking you to talk without using labels and for
every time you fail to do so we're gonna feed you a flaming Post-It Note
(tm)

>Fellowship ain't Con or SubGeeny. It's just there. And practically every
>religion on this planet has it in one form or another. Sure you've got
>your hermits who spend a couple thousand years in a cave up in the
>mountains. There are individuals who don't do fellowship, but I bet
>those hermits have fellowship once or twice in their lives. Bein' a
>hermit's just their day job.

>snif< >snif< I smell hugs and kisses, get me my gun. Fellowship, by that
I guess you mean "having freinds", is a common trait of many species, many
of which crawl on all fours. I fail to see the point. If a SubGenius can
overcome this inate desire, all the better! We need more sociopathic
loners out there wandering the streets and backwoods: tests prove that
they hear the voices of Dobbs and JHVH-1 more clearly than those Yetis
occupied with trivial conversations.

>You got your conservative fundamentalist pricks who drive expensive
>limozines, install expensive security equiptment on their houses, and
>spend all their time in front of a pulpit talking to people instead of
>communing with their congregation by LISTENING. Those guys are
>exceptions to the rule.

You'd better stop talking about Stang and Jesus that way man! On X-Day I
got more than a few evil-eyes from Jesus, and its not a glance I wish to
get again!

>The SubGenius Church is a church of non-joiners, and because of that
>people think we're not supposed to enjoy being together. That's a load
>of shit.
>BobDammit! I didn't even GO to the Drill, but I know why it's there. I
>know why all of YOU did!

I went there for the EXPLICIT reason to not have a good time and hate
everyone I saw. AND I SUCCEEDED! I HATE AND LOATHE ALL OF YOU - I NEVER
TALKED TO YOU BEFORE - I NEVER WANT TO AGAIN - YOU CAN PARADE YOUR GODDAMN
UGLINESS RIGHT UP YOUR ASSES!

I did not enjoy the company of SubGenii, in fact they made me cringe
outright - nearly to the point of nausea. I did manange to get one REALLY
drunk tho, then leave him to disturb everyone else.

>We're like-minded in the fact that we believe in tolerance of others'
>views. We believe in uniqueness and individuality. As Reverend Susie the
>Floozie once said (though she probably quoted someone else) "You're
>unique, and so is everybody else."

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA. OH MAN, that is good.I believe in uniqueness and
individuality alright - but I also believe that I can be intolerant of
them both. My roommate once wisely said "If everyone is special, what's
so special about being special?" To which I answered, "The fact that
everyone's specialities aren't compatible and we have big fights to see
which ones survive." If life was all a stalmate, damn, I'd be asleep now.

...which brings me to an interesting aside. My friend who hadn't paid for
X-Day and was therefore hanging out with pagans and sleeping in our tent
obviously felt some kind of guilt. One Sunday morning, I awoke to the
words "Take that, Motherfucker!" I turned about quickly as I thought for
sure my number was up, but lo - it was merely my greedy pink friend
tlaking in his sleep. He immediately awakened and explained that Pastor
Craig was chasing him around his old apartment demanding a for helping him
move. But, instead of a tip, the dreamscape Pastor Craig got a whack over
the head with a yard stick that made him desolve down vents. He further
explained that he had the dream at least 4 times that evening.

Pastor Craig: if you are responsible for this, please teach me the
method!

>That don't mean we are all unique the same way. That's absurd. People
>wearin' black just cuz they think it makes them different. That ain't
>what I'm talkin' about.

Whatchu talkin' about then Willis? [that hurt but had to be done]

>I mean I ain't into HATE the same way that other assholes in the church
>are into HATE. That don't make me no less of a SubGenius and it don't
>make Hypercleats more of a SubGenius, just cuz he HATES more than I do.

I resent being called an asshole, I have yet to use a derogatorry slang
word to describe you... i think.. yup I checked, merely idle threats so
far.

>I FUCKING HATE THAT SHIT!

asshole!

>Individuality embodies the Church of the SubGenius. Maybe some people
>are here cuz they like weird stuff. Maybe some people are here cuz they
>think it's a FUNNY JOKE. Yeah maybe even some of them will be laughin'
>when they BURN. Maybe some people are here cuz it helps them get laid,
>or they think it helps them get laid, or they get whatever slack it is
>that keeps 'em goin'.
>We're all here cuz of THAT MAN BOB but we each take from the Sacred
>Dobbshead whatever it is we bring to it, and we each get something
>different out of the experience.

DUH-FACTOR = 10.

>And there's something special about sharing that with others. NOT to
>make them see things your way. Just to share.

Forcing my opinion on others is just my way I sharing I guess. I mean,
what's right for me must be right for eveyone else cuz I looked and I saw
it in the same crystal (oops, jumped ahead)

>The entire fucking universe is one big fucking crystal. It's so
>incredibly big that each of us are standing on one facet of that
>crystal. And we look down into that facet and to us the universe is
>whatever that crystal looks like from our point of view.

Did you just see Men In Black too? That whole marble/galaxy thing was
damn cheesey if you ask me - and a rip off of Douglas Adams snooker
analogy from the Hitchhiker Trilogy.

>Some people look into the facet of the jewel and see how the light
>refracts and creates complicated shapes and they examine it intricately.
>Some people just look down into the crystal now and then, go 'ooh purty'
>and then they go back to watchin' Oprah or whatever. Maybe Oprah IS the
>facet to some people. Shit, she's usually BIG enough.

Ok, IF the whole universe is a crystal AND the crystal is of uniform shape
and color THEN everyone sees the same thing. BUT they can't do that cuz
they're part of the universe, and if they were lookin from within the
crystal, then it wouldn't be much of crystal, it'd be a giant box with
people inside. Incidentally this one of Carl Sagan's first theories about
the nature of the universe after a frop session with "Bob" in 1974.
Stephen Hawkin would later modify this theory to say that as you
approached the corners of the box, the duct tape would get so strong that
no lint could escape - except for tiny pulses of lint fragments known
today as "dust."

>Some people look down and they can't see past their own dick, but that's
>what reality is to them.

HELL! THAT BEATS EM ALL - CRAP ON METAPHYSICS - ITS ALL DICK!

>Fellowship allows you to look into the facets of this universe that
>other people are focusing on, and take a gander at that for awhile. It
>helps you to see that Big Picture a little more clearly. If you don't
>like what you see, you can always ignore or forget what you don't like
>later, and walk back over to your facet and stare in it for awhile.

If this gets archived, please entitle "Weird Essays from Person who
Watches Too much Television". What happens if my facet gets nothing but
BET and "Paid Programming" from those AB Roller people while the dupe next
to me has HBO 1 2 & 3 and access to PPV? Is there a way to permanently
switch facets between people? MUST it be voluntary?!?! PREACH ON.

>What fucks up most other religions is that some bastard looks into his
>facet, says "This is what reality is all about" then he spends the rest
>of his life trying to get everyone to stand on and look into his facet
>of reality, and accept it as theirs. The Church of the SubGenius HAS to
>pull the wool over people's eyes, to get them to stop lookin' at someone
>else's facet of the universe as if it were theirs. The Church of the
>SubGenius SHOWS people where their facet is, cuz they usually lost sight
>of it somewhere along the way, usually cuz of those bastards who think
>their facet of reality is the only one.

You made this a hell of alot more complicated with the crystal stuff.
Look man, crystals are SOLELY for new age kooks. That's my facet. Its
the only facet - face it.

>Your perspective of reality is right for you, but it ain't gonna be
>right for anyone else. J.C. once said "broad is the way that leadeth to
>destruction . . . and narrow is the way which leadeth unto life, and few
>there be that find it."

But more importantly, what did "Bob" say? Yes! WHAT ABOUT "BOB"?

I dunno, I'm like The Charlie. I have my book somewhere, but I'll be
damned if I actually memorized anything - and I'll be double damned if I
actually go looking for it now.

>Now everyone has their own fucking interpretation of the "Christian
>Bible," but to me that means that the path to salvation, or whatever the
>hell you're looking for, is so narrow that the path can only be taken by
>one person. YOU. YOUR path ain't gonna get NOBODY else to THEIR
>destination. Whatever the fuck that is. It may end up bein' the same
>destination you're going to, but they can't get there the same exact way
>you're goin.

Damn right they can't - everything in my path is going to be mowed down,
and everything behind me is going to be impassable scorched earth.

>Maybe my interpretation is wrong for you, but that's what works for me.
>Maybe you're freakin' right now cuz I just quoted from the "Christian
>Bible" but that's cuz you don't like to look down that facet of the
>universe. That's cool for you.
>Don't make a federal case about it.

I'm takin you to small claims! I'm cool with it, I have a Jesuit
education, I know my religion. I also know that you're big on sharing:
I'm big on shooting crap down. You're (your) crap this case, just thought
I'd share. I just don't get why you're so big on sharing? I think in
reality you're really trying to force you're view onto the readers of
alt.slack AND I think your replies to others in this thread illustrate
that precise intent. THEIR reply to you, wasn't correct, it HAD to be
sharing. I'm forcing right now - I'm the only one right - You are wrong -
LISTEN TO ME: You can call conversations sharing, but I call them a battle
of ideas, the surviving idea is right, the others are wrong. AND I DON'T
WANNA BE FELLOWS ABOUT IT - I'M GLOATING; I'M ENTITLED TO IT!

>Maybe you can help someone else get to their destination. Maybe they can
>help you get to yours. Maybe by seein' someone else's journey for
>awhile, you can learn what to avoid to help you get to YOUR destination.
>And vice versa.

Something weird happened here, suddenly I got the voice of Tammy Faye
reading these above lines to me. SOMEONE SAVE ME

>You don't go to a Church to find someone else's journey. You're already
>on your own journey whether you know it or not. We go to Drills and
>Revivals and we read and post in here and we go to the IRC chat things
>in order to share in the journey.

I'm bored, wasting time on my roller coaster ride until death. Shouldbe
playing darts now or something, developing a skill...

>We meet at a crossroads for awhile and we compare notes. There's nothin'
>Pink about that. That's fellowship.

ick - the word "crossroads" just churns my stomach - please man, stop it.
If I run into you at an intersection, and I hear the word "fellowship" or
"crossroads" we'll be comparing fists.

>I don't give a fuck why you join whatever fucking church you join.
>Fellowship is the real reason you do.

HUH? ALl I wanted was a tape and a t-shirt, and all I got was some lousy
people who wanna call me a "fellow". Better off joining 4-H, least the
cows and horses don't lecture you about your deep subconscious reasons for
brushing them.

>End of fucking sermon.

>bow< I have made it about twice as long - yippE!!!

St. Patrick The Shiney

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From: dflync01@homer.louisville.edu (David F Lynch)

Patrick McGuirk (pmcguirk@voyager2.cns.ohiou.edu) wrote:
:
: It's only pink if you exchanged business cards and said "Catchya later,
: babe!" with a swank pat on the back. And even then, hell, I dunno, don't
: care. I'm pink, its mostly due to my inability to tan tho.

I'd like to interject that Subgenii, in general, tend to be among the
WHITEST MOTHERFUCKERS I'VE EVER SEEN, myself included. I may have brought
this up at the drill, and it was noted that many of us have a tendency to
be hunched over _some_ kind of screen.

: REQ: Define craw, you seem to have a piece of anatomy I lack, but if
: something can be dug into it, perhaps I want one. Will you sell me yours?

Not the craw, the craw.

: >snif< >snif< I smell hugs and kisses, get me my gun. Fellowship, by that
: I guess you mean "having freinds", is a common trait of many species, many
: of which crawl on all fours. I fail to see the point. If a SubGenius can
: overcome this inate desire, all the better! We need more sociopathic
: loners out there wandering the streets and backwoods: tests prove that
: they hear the voices of Dobbs and JHVH-1 more clearly than those Yetis
: occupied with trivial conversations.

Why the fuck do we have to overcome innate desires? Being a Subgenius
isn't about resisting your innermost impulses- for humans, of course, this
is desirable as their innermost impulses are to whack each other in the
heads with clubs, whereas OUR innate desires are to knock HUMANS in the heads
with clubs so we can get back to the orgies. If I want to spend time around
my fellow Yeti, by gum, that's JUST what I'll do.

On solitude vs. companionship- Stang has a sermon called "You can be
alone- with 'Bob'". I think this applies here. Where Subgenii are the
most skilled are in cultivating a sense of wild-eyed isolation while
still being what can be called "social creatures". Not to mention the
fact that NOTHING a Subgenius does can be "trivial", because of the
very fact that it's a Subgenius doing it!

: I did not enjoy the company of SubGenii, in fact they made me cringe
: outright - nearly to the point of nausea. I did manange to get one REALLY
: drunk tho, then leave him to disturb everyone else.

Hey, nobody here is saying you SHOULDN'T be a sociopath; if you wanna
kill someone in the name of "Bob" so we can totally disavow any knowledge
of you, go ahead. Myself I'll be psychotic in my own way, and I'd prefer
that to be in the company of other Subgenii.

: DUH-FACTOR = 10.

I would remind you that the stupidest truths are the most profound.
And that's a self-referential sentence, BTW.

: Did you just see Men In Black too? That whole marble/galaxy thing was
: damn cheesey if you ask me - and a rip off of Douglas Adams snooker
: analogy from the Hitchhiker Trilogy.

Douglas Adams stole the number "42" from the Sanksrits.

: Ok, IF the whole universe is a crystal AND the crystal is of uniform shape
: and color THEN everyone sees the same thing. BUT they can't do that cuz
: they're part of the universe, and if they were lookin from within the
: crystal, then it wouldn't be much of crystal, it'd be a giant box with
: people inside. Incidentally this one of Carl Sagan's first theories about
: the nature of the universe after a frop session with "Bob" in 1974.
: Stephen Hawkin would later modify this theory to say that as you
: approached the corners of the box, the duct tape would get so strong that
: no lint could escape - except for tiny pulses of lint fragments known
: today as "dust."

No, look, the universe is ONE BIG NOTE.

: HELL! THAT BEATS EM ALL - CRAP ON METAPHYSICS - ITS ALL DICK!

Eight inches or less?

: If this gets archived, please entitle "Weird Essays from Person who
: Watches Too much Television". What happens if my facet gets nothing but
: BET and "Paid Programming" from those AB Roller people while the dupe next
: to me has HBO 1 2 & 3 and access to PPV? Is there a way to permanently
: switch facets between people? MUST it be voluntary?!?! PREACH ON.

It's easy to mock, brother. It's hard to kill.

: You made this a hell of alot more complicated with the crystal stuff.
: Look man, crystals are SOLELY for new age kooks. That's my facet. Its
: the only facet - face it.

I have crystals growing inside my ears.

: But more importantly, what did "Bob" say? Yes! WHAT ABOUT "BOB"?

"Bob" doesn't actually SAY anything. He's actually a puppet operated
by Captain Kangaroo.

: I dunno, I'm like The Charlie. I have my book somewhere, but I'll be
: damned if I actually memorized anything - and I'll be double damned if I
: actually go looking for it now.

"I don't see how anyone would want to read it all for fun"- Robert Fripp

See, that's how the book works, you scan it, steal the stuff you like
and ignore the rest. That's how EVERYBODY approaches religion.
Memorizing is for Protestants.

: I'm takin you to small claims! I'm cool with it, I have a Jesuit
: education, I know my religion. I also know that you're big on sharing:
: I'm big on shooting crap down. You're (your) crap this case, just thought
: I'd share. I just don't get why you're so big on sharing? I think in
: reality you're really trying to force you're view onto the readers of
: alt.slack AND I think your replies to others in this thread illustrate
: that precise intent. THEIR reply to you, wasn't correct, it HAD to be
: sharing. I'm forcing right now - I'm the only one right - You are wrong -
: LISTEN TO ME: You can call conversations sharing, but I call them a battle
: of ideas, the surviving idea is right, the others are wrong. AND I DON'T
: WANNA BE FELLOWS ABOUT IT - I'M GLOATING; I'M ENTITLED TO IT!

What is the difference between force and coercion, and giving, for that
matter? Shooting crap down is what this newsgroup is for; fuck, it's what
this CHURCH is for. But it's ALSO for the promulgation of high-quality
Dobbs Approved MANURE; and that's where semantics'll fail ya. You can
look at things in Darwinian terms or happy new-age terms, but it's the
SAME SHIT. Ref. Doktor Dynasoar Iridium's parable at X-Day Drill '97.

: Something weird happened here, suddenly I got the voice of Tammy Faye
: reading these above lines to me. SOMEONE SAVE ME

"HAW HAW YOUR STUPID" doesn't pass for philosophical criticism here, man.
Your kind of persuasion is best delivered at the end of a gun barrel.
And that's not an insult, it's a suggestion.

: I'm bored, wasting time on my roller coaster ride until death. Shouldbe
: playing darts now or something, developing a skill...

Jarts. Jarts.

--
Brrr-woowoowooowooowoowoo-brrrRRRRRrrrrr (Galaxians 7/83)

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From: i.stang@subgenius.com (Rev. Ivan Stang)

In article <ED6M09.9x0@nonexistent.com>, TheCharlie wrote:

> Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
>
> (nothing.. I just cut and pasted so's I could find your address)

I don't know if this ever showed up in my email -- I'm finding this on
alt.slack.

Thankee for the kind words, which tend to offset the token Stang Hating. I
wish they'd quit mixing me up with Dobbs.

I'm sure it's all TOKEN Stang Hating, because how could anyone sincerely
hate such a sweet and unassuming, nonegomaniacal person such as myself?

But truly, sir, NONE are more Great in their Humbleness than YOU sirrah!

Thanks for all the blanks, incidentally!

>
> I've been back many days now, editing, posting, emailing and feeling all over
> slackful after attending the drill (SNIPPP)

As you say, the SubGenii tend generally to be friendly folks. You'd almost
think that all that Hate stuff was more a statement ABOUT Hate than true
Hate! Sometimes. Other times... it's Squeetersville.

> I managed to film the Hour of Slack but the sound is mostly distortion
from one or
> two of the mics. I used the audio straight out of the mixer, but it was
overdriven
> for my mic. jack. On a good note, Soozie SEEMS to have come out clearer
and louder on
> my tape than what I've heard from the audio files. If you want, I can
send it to
> you and you can splice. Also, the video on mine is not great.. I just
filmed it, I'm not
> a cameraman.. but if you're going to splice, two angles are better than
one. She played to
> my camera a bit too. (more than the stationary one which was unmanned)
>

Well, everybody should send me copies of all videotapes. I would sure like
to assemble a for-real feature length video documentary out of all this.
Not a 4-hour rough cut like the last Drill videotapes. I have it covered by
1.5 cameras, and other angles would always help beef stuff up. I don't know
WHEN such a time consuming thing would happen. It would be FUN. We could
probably even SELL it.

That Friday morning "radio show" never really worked out... things got good
once it became more devival-like than radio-like.

GENERAL DRILL MEDIA UPDATE: I am 3 days late already getting an Hour of
Slack out, because I KEEP DUBBING FROM THE HIGH-8 VIDEOS. So far, some of
the best sound is coming from that brand new High-8 camera's stero mikes.
The audio tapes that I have are mostly board tapes with very little
audience or room presence (or guitars during the music, for that matter)
so, so far, I'm pulling audio from those High 8 videos as fast as I can ,
before I have to return the High 8 gear (it's all borrowed -- from
TEENAGERS!!).

While that dubbing and logging was going on, all day yesterday, I was also
pulling "frame grabs" off the videotapes -- stills to post. They look real
good from the High 8. However, there are... HUNDREDS already and I've only
scanned half the videos. I've been narrowing it down. Next I need to covert
all these PICT files into jpegs... THEN I can post it.

I'm catching all the Reports that everybody's posting to a.s., and I got
all the photos you posted to a.b.s. I intend to mix it all together into a
big SubSITE report soon as I can. Gotta do radio first.

Wandarer has got the ENTIRE DRILL RECORDINGS (from his and my audio decks)
up on SubSITE streaming in Real Audio:

http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/ears/soundz/X_Day_Drill_97/X_Day_Dr
ill_97_Sounds.html.

Meanwhile, I'm sitting here in the dead of night with the crucifixion scene
dubbing behind me, adding to the log that Wandarer started, and trying to
do 5 other things at once so that when I finally put this stuff into Radio
Show Order, it all sounds its best.

I almost have the basic main video footage logged and sorted to the point
that I'll be able to dub VHS copies for people who are desperate to see
their own performance, or to jack off to the naked pictures, or just to
have nice stereo Kodak memories to boost their Frop Memories. Blank tapes
with the appropriate huge padded SASEs and bribes will get you what you
need. It looks like there will be 4 main VHS tapes. I'll post the logs when
they're done. There are still parts of the Drill that I haven't seen at all
because I wasn't there, and haven't come to that part of the vids yet.

I have been pleasantly surprised!

P.S. General message: to the two drunks that Jesus or I had to be stern
with (for your own good): no hard feelings on our parts. My own glass house
doesn't permit prolonged rock fights, and stuff like that is usually
forgotten quickly.

(I don't know who they WERE anyway.)

--
Copyright 1997 by Rev. Ivan Stang / 1st Orthodox Stangian

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From: "Dr. Ginsu" <jch1@voicenet.com>

David F Lynch wrote:
>
> TheCharlie (NOSPAMcharliec@cybernex.net) wrote:
> :
> : (admission here.. I still don't know shit about the church, even after 3 years
> : following alt.slack and reading, listening etc. and I don't particularly
> : care either. I went to meet the people. pink, huh?)
>
> No, fuck that. I think I was saying something like this at the drill;
> people talk about this "church shopping" shit all the time like it was
> another one of those fucking Yuppie outgrowths of creeping consumerism.
> I'm sure this'll surprise the hell out of Stang, who still apparently
> believes that Subgenii are not supposed to be able to stand each other,
> but any religion has a hell of a lot to do with your religious community,
> and that's us, folks.

Yeah, yeah...it's all about, "People, relating with people," right?

But those people...are Humans...and HUMANS MUST DIE!!!!!!!

Doctrine? Hell, I could've gotten this stuff from
> most any religion. I could've stayed Catholic. I could've taken up
> Zen. I could've become an atheist. Whatever; eternal truths are eternal
> truths, right?

Now you're beginning to "get" the "Joke." Welcome to reality.
Take a number. One is good.

But the primary reason I'm a Subgenius instead of a member
> of some other major religion is because the vast majority of you folks are
> pretty good people. Who the hell wants to be in a Church with a bunch of
> total assholes?
>

Will the REAL Ivan Stang kindly fuck off.

Just kidding mister Rev. Stang sir, oh unleasher of "Bob" and deceiver
of youth.

Dr. Ginsu

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