Just like to be the first to state that I know now that Pink Television
is a sin against Eris, "Bob", and possibly even Hastur.
Why do I know it? Because to my shame I just watched half of "V.R. 5".
I mean, we're talking brain bogglingly, jaw dropingly bad televison.
Really... whenever I try that stupid thing with the modem, all I
get is *&hg7^&&%^T%^$%%^&TUY&^YFT*&6][[[}{(&dfgjv4Jyf^&R67^FTfghrfDbButy
JiuB&*^&*^b74$%#$%5675&^&^%^#5
NO CARRIER
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Subject: Wow, and I thought "Wild Palms" was unscientific...
From: james.gradisher@nccbbs.com (JAMES GRADISHER)
But [sotto voce] "Virtual reality is real..." I laughed my ass off.
Not that I know anything about said subject. But could this be instead
some form of bulldada like badfilm? What are the prophetic
implications?
James J. Gradisher
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Subject: Re: Wow, and I thought "Wild Palms" was unscientific...
From: i.stang@metronet.com (Rev. Ivan Stang)
I wouldn't call VR-5 bulldada, just DUMB, but it was good for one thing.
My daughter and I watched the whole thing, gagging and mocking, like
Beavis and Beaviestie, and at the end, were OVERJOYED to see that the
producers were BRAVE/DUMB enough to announce their EMAIL ADDRESS. Sivet
had never expressed any interest in using email until THAT MOMENT. Her
letter was titled YOU SUCK and ended with the phrase, "Wake up and smell
the dead guys!"
It was Pink enough to motivate a young SubGenius to try a new technology
for the first time.
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Subject: Re: Wow, and I thought "Wild Palms" was unscientific...
From: testa@starbase.neosoft.com (Andrew J. Testa)
The entity known as Rev. Ivan Stang (i.stang@metronet.com) posted:
[...BBRRRRRRaarrp! ..eh, excuse me....urp]
* producers were BRAVE/DUMB enough to announce their EMAIL ADDRESS. Sivet
* had never expressed any interest in using email until THAT MOMENT. Her
* letter was titled YOU SUCK and ended with the phrase, "Wake up and smell
* the dead guys!"
JHVH-1 his own smelly self will duck and hide when these kids are cast
out of the nest to hunt on their own. Like Cambodian children in the '70s
taught to count using pictures of hand grenades an rifles, the Stangettes
are gonna know NAUGHT BUT THE CULT, and will rend asunder even the very
PILLARS upon which the father-church squats. I shudder for that day.
We shall ALL hide, fearful as if our SPACE_CHOADS were exposed in a
cosmic WHACK-A-MOLE game, and the Stangettes hold the HAMMER! And
we now see it beginning. Imagine, a practicing SubG from the womb, those
night visits from 'Unca "Bob"'. BBBRRRRR.
I must say though, that her response was most worthy, and reminds me of
the time I helped a roommate out when he didn't have the time to respond
to a notice from a collection agency. I sent them a note in his name to
explain everything, topping it with the phrase "Eat me you pig-fucking
bastards." I DO enjoy helping my fellow pink, I really do.
Andy Testa
testa@hou.moc.com
"Rim jobs by Xenu on special! $300,000 today only!"
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Subject: Re: Wow, and I thought "Wild Palms" was unscientific...
From: TarlaStar <bmyers@ionet.net>
Here in alt.slack we are blessed with great writers with
wonderful senses of humor. I get my internet account for $40 a
month (unlimited hours...truly slackful). I'm sending NENSLO a
buck, because every page he writes, that I AM FORCED BY MY
DOBBSIAN PROGRAMMING TO READ, reduces the amount per hour that I
pay for this slackful enterprise. The more NENSLO writes, the
cheaper my internet account gets...IT SAVES ME MONEY TO SEND HIM
MONEY! ...Dobbsian Logic (tm.) all rights reserved
--
"For me eroticism must be ugly, the aesthetic always divine,
and death beautiful." - S. Dali
*****
Rideo ergo sum-Tarla
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Subject: Re: Wow, and I thought "Wild Palms" was unscientific...
From: dynasor@infi.net (Dennis McClain-Furmanski)
Michael Townsend (mtownsend@interramp.com) wrote:
: I've been mildly amused by our sharp alt.slack TV critics and their
: reviews of the new Fox television series, "VR5." What no one seems to
: have picked up on (even Stang!) is that the show's "Story Editor" is none
: other than John Shirley. Yep, THE John Shirley, the renegade SubG sci-fi
: writer, now making the big Hollywood buck. Check the credits at the end
: of the show -- his is the first one.
That doesn't impress me very much when I take a look at the result he's
giving the OK to.
Think back to Battlestar Galactica. At first it was pretty good. That's when
Asimov was a consultant. Then they couldn't afford him. (Really, they
couldn't. The show was costing half a million per eposide. That's why it got
cut to every two then three weeks for a while). After he left, it devloved
into flying Boy Scouts.
It may be good SubG method to steal from Pinks, but to put your name on
something means artistic association with it. Hell, Ken Kesey took his name
off the movie "Sometimes A Great Notion" when they cut the drug-and-suicide
references. No, I think it's a matter of artistic honor, and I think he sold
out, because he can damn sure do better.
--
dynasor@infi.net The Doctor is on.
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Subject: Re: Wow, and I thought "Wild Palms" was unscientific...
From: TarlaStar <bmyers@ionet.net>
Give the guy a break, maybe he HAS no control over what gets in
and what doesn't...he's only the writer after all. Besides, its
not just the piss-poor explanation of what the hell is going on
(in VR) but it's the fact that it's going to twist what normals
think VR is all about, and thereby fuck it up for the rest of us.
And it's also about the fact that the girl who is supposedly
carrying this show is THE WORST ACTRESS I'VE EVER SEEN. She
wouldn't know how to express an emotion if it crawled up her ass
and beat its way out of her face. AND If *I* were in charge, I'd
have just killed the bitch, taken her shit, and run the whole
thing myself. So if this "committee" is so baddass, why do they
let the stupid whore keep living? I'm with Stang's daughter on
this one, "wake up and smell the dead guys!"
--
"For me eroticism must be ugly, the aesthetic always divine,
and death beautiful." - S. Dali
*****
Rideo ergo sum-Tarla
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Subject: Re: Wow, and I thought "Wild Palms" was unscientific...
From: mesmith@cris.com (Mark E. Smith)
TarlaStar <bmyers@ionet.net> wrote:
> And it's also about the fact that the girl who is supposedly
> carrying this show is THE WORST ACTRESS I'VE EVER SEEN. She
> wouldn't know how to express an emotion if it crawled up her ass
> and beat its way out of her face.
Hey. Hey! HEY!! That's Lori Singer of "Fame" you're talking
about there! And regardless of what you might think, she ...
well, yeah, you're right. She sucks. Carry on then.
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Mark E. Smith mesmith@cris.com
Have we gone beyond the bounds of reasonable dishonesty? -- CIA memo
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Subject: Re: Wow, and I thought "Wild Palms" was unscientific...
From: i.stang@metronet.com (Rev. Ivan Stang)
dynasor@infi.net (Dennis McClain-Furmanski) wrote:
> It may be good SubG method to steal from Pinks, but to put your name on
> something means artistic association with it. Hell, Ken Kesey took his name
> off the movie "Sometimes A Great Notion" when they cut the drug-and-suicide
> references. No, I think it's a matter of artistic honor, and I think he sold
> out, because he can damn sure do better.
>
SINCE WHEN IS "SELLING OUT" A SIN?!?! Jeezis, I've been TRYING to do that
for TWENTY YEARS!!
Look. You don't understand either Hollywood or alimony payments. I haven't
talked to Rev. Shirley about this, but some months back he told Vreedeez
that he was being paid to "consult" on this thing, but that the dips
producing the show paid him no mind... he would try to explain to them,
"Look boys, I think you're misunderstanding what this "virtual reality"
stuff IS..." and they'd nod, and go on with whatever coked-up scheme they
already had planned. This is why I never attempted to move to California
to "make it". But then I don't have nearly as many kids to support as the
GREAT SCIENTIST JOHN SHIRLEY does.
We ALL (well, almost all) have to do CONSPIRACY JOBS. And they're ALL
PROSTITUTION. I don't care if it's art, science, commerce or what, we're
all still peddling our asses just to survive. Shirley has managed to
produce some of the most original fiction on the planet. BUT DID YOU BUY
HIS BOOKS??? Hell no. You watched VR-5, though. POINT MADE!!
Rev. Ivan "Slow to Think, Quick to Anger" Stang
I will also point out that John Shirley wrote the screenplay for THE CROW,
which I thought was a corny as hell movie, almost laughably dated in
"look" even before it was released. He also wrote the book that Harrison
Ford movie THE SPECIALIST was based on. Big deal. A job's a job. If you
want some real John Shirley, check out A SPLENDID CHAOS or WETBONES. If
you can FIND 'em!
Credibility, hell... I've written as many bullshit real estate p.r.
releases as I have radio rants, and you know what? The bullshit p.r. press
releases produced ACTUAL DOLLAR BILLS while all those hundreds of Hours of
Slack produced... well, SLACK. But little good the SLACK was gonna do me
if my equipment and kids were repossessed.
This is why we Hate.
--
Copyright 1995 by Rev. Ivan Stang / 1st Orthodox Stangian
MegaFisTemple Lodge of People's Covenant Church of the
Wrath of Dobbs Yeti, Resurrected / The SubGenius Foundation,Inc.
PO Box 140306 Dallas TX 75214 / Fax 214-320-1561 / PRABOB
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Subject: Re: Wow, and I thought "Wild Palms" was unscientific...
From: dynasor@infi.net (Dennis McClain-Furmanski)
Rev. Ivan Stang (i.stang@metronet.com) wrote:
: SINCE WHEN IS "SELLING OUT" A SIN?!?! Jeezis, I've been TRYING to do that
: for TWENTY YEARS!!
No, Ivan, I don't think you're trying to sell out. That implies a giving up
of standards. I DO think you're trying to buy IN, on YOUR terms. To sell
out, the books etc., would have to cater to the NON-SubG. And they damn sure
don't.
: We ALL (well, almost all) have to do CONSPIRACY JOBS. And they're ALL
: PROSTITUTION. I don't care if it's art, science, commerce or what, we're
: all still peddling our asses just to survive. Shirley has managed to
: produce some of the most original fiction on the planet. BUT DID YOU BUY
: HIS BOOKS??? Hell no. You watched VR-5, though. POINT MADE!!
Well, yeah, I did read the books. At least some of them -- I never keep
track of how many who put out.
And if he made the effort and they blew him off, at least he stuck to HIS
standards. Again, buying in but not selling out.
Look, I'm real proud Vangelis refused to allow the release of the _Blade
Runner_ soundtrack, once he saw the amount of grade-B camp that was put in
it. He didn't want to be associated with that kind of stuff. But, HE COULD
AFFORD THAT.
So Shirley can't. So it goes. If he doesn't mind having his name on it, then
we can complain all we like, and he can either ignore us or not while he
cashes the checks.
: Rev. Ivan "Slow to Think, Quick to Anger" Stang
Bullpuckey. I've been wondering if you lost your adrenal gland as a
marketing move. Granted Nenslo is so practiced in the art of MegaHate that
he can keep you well stocked, it's no reason just to RIDE the bus. Everybody
gotta yank on the wheel sometimes. Good move.
Better yet over in the <BLINK> BOB ... thread.
I LIKES it when the rant tries to chew through the screen and come after me.
Lets me know the output ain't from some automagical psuedo-Slack text
geenrator.
: This is why we Hate.
Point made, taken, rolled up, and smoked.
Rant on, UberRev.
--
dynasor@infi.net The Doctor is on.
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Subject: Re: Wow, and I thought "Wild Palms" was unscientific...
From: ghsst6+@pitt.edu (Geoffrey H Spear)
i.stang@metronet.com (Rev. Ivan Stang) wrote:
>BUT DID YOU BUY
>HIS BOOKS??? Hell no. You watched VR-5, though. POINT MADE!!
actually, i bought the only one of his books i could find. unfortunately,
everything he's written seems to be out of print. i watched the first
5 minutes of the pilot of VR.5. i also saw the last 5 minutes of the
episode last week, because i was waiting for the x-files to come on.
and it was at a friend's house. if i'd had the remote in my hand,
i would have kept the tv off until vr.5 was over.
>I will also point out that John Shirley wrote the screenplay for THE CROW,
>which I thought was a corny as hell movie, almost laughably dated in
>"look" even before it was released.
yeah, and the Con kill brandon lee before they could finish it just
to punish him for making a film written by a SubGenius. Ayieeee!
>But little good the SLACK was gonna do me
>if my equipment and kids were repossessed.
oh, come on... everyone knows the Con doesn't plan to start repossessing
children until at least the end of october.
--
Geoff Spear |"And whenever rn sees your .signature
ghsst6+@pitt.edu | it'll rmgroup alt.slack as well! Yay!"
http://www.pitt.edu/~ghsst6/ | - Kibo
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Subject: Re: Wow, and I thought "Wild Palms" was unscientific...
From: roach@primenet.com (Eric Hillman)
Elayne Wechsler-Chaput wrote, penned, scribed, scrived [Scot.]; inscribed, etc.
.Well, I like the show, and I'm hardly Pink. Well, not today, at any rate.
.Honestly, turn your brain off and flow with it. Or is it that hard to
.accept a "science" fantasy show with a non-penised lead character? :)
As far as I can see, the ONLY thing the show's got going for it is the
star's physical sexual characteristics. I watched the first episode
just long enough to wonder what the hell Penn Jillette was doing in this
bit of fluff.
Anyways, I don't think sexism has anything to do with hating lame
shows that attempt to scramble onto the cyberbandwagon with a budget just
big enough to afford most of a Video Toaster and all the savvy and
technological know-how of a barrel of Amish people. MANTIS, anyone?
--
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"Ivan Stang" is a verb.
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