SubGenius Digest #253

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SubGenius Digest #253 24 AUG 89 00:14:21 EDT

Today's Topics:

Abbie Hoffman
a new friend
Postings by satan@uwovax.uwo.ca

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From: "Eric E. Snyder" <eesnyder@boulder.colorado.edu>
Subject: Abbie Hoffman
Keywords: Abbie Hoffman, Hell
Message-Id: <10902@boulder.Colorado.EDU>
Date: 21 Aug 89 13:45:00 GMT
Reply-To: "Eric E. Snyder" <eesnyder@boulder.colorado.edu>

I thought I had cross-posted this from soc.religion.culture but perhaps the
moderator clipped the second newsgroup. Here goes:

Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu

I was give a pamphelet this afternoon in Sproul
Plaza at Berkeley. I would like to share it with the Net:

WHERE IS ABBIE?

Abbie Hoffman was a radical and wanted the world to know it.
He rejected all authority and chose a life of rebellion, sex, and drugs.
But rejecting God was his big mistake!!
The Bible says, "Don't kid yourself. God is not mocked. what you sow is what you reap."
Sure enough Abbie's sins caught up with him when he overdosed on drugs.
He learned the hard way that "the wages of sin is death."
On his way out, did he think to get right with God, probably not-- who can think straight on dope?
So, odds are, Abbie's in Hell today though God doesn't want anyone to go there.
Now what about you? The Bible says, whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved."
That means, turn away from your sins, call on the Lord Jesus to forgive you, and God will help you get your act straight.
God loves you but don't expect Him to feel sorry for you if you go to Hell.

That is your choice not God's.

Thank you for listening; I think we can all learn from Abbie's example.
God bless you!

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Moderators Comment:
[An interesting approach to evangelism. I've seen plenty of pleas to
repent before, but I think this is the first time I've seen one
mention a specific person who is (probably) in Hell. My first
reaction was to wonder why they would mention a specific name, given
our Lord's very specific instructions not to judge others. But on
further reflection, I can see that it's an attempt to penetrate the
drug culture by referring to a specific drug-related tragedy. Still,
I wonder whether this is the right way to do it. I wonder whether any
of our readers have have been working in any ministries related to
drugs, and would tell us about their experiences. --clh]

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Message-Id: <EYwjdEe00WBbM0UosC@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 89 15:26:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Chris Koenigsberg <ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: a new friend

Apparently someone's infected alt.drugs and other Lusenet newsgroups
with all kinds of "How can you people be so evil, You're all going to
Hell" sorts of stuff, without signing his name (the path shows that they
come from "2014_5001@uwovax.uwo.ca"), except that someone noticed he
also posted to comp.lang.c and did sign it over there, can we send him
anything interesting? He signs his alt.drugs rants as SATAN from HELL or
something like that.....maybe the real S dude can drop him a line and
ask him to stop forging?

Here's apparently his "real" signature as ferreted out by someone else
on the net:

}-From: 2014_5001@uwovax.uwo.ca
}-Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
}-Subject: Re: Recommend a C compiler?
}-
}-Alex Pruss
}-Department of Applied Mathematics, Astronomy,
}-Mathematics, or Physics University of Western
Ontario
}-pruss@uwovax.uwo.ca pruss@uwovax.BITNET
A5001@nve.uwo.ca
}

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From: Scott Kempf <scott@geology.wisc.edu>
Subject: Postings by satan@uwovax.uwo.ca
Message-Id: <1989Aug23.165552.11318@geology.wisc.edu>
Date: 23 Aug 89 16:55:52 GMT

I'm sure many of you have seen some rather ignorant and offensive
postings by a man who seems to think he speeks for satan.
This man is actually Alex Pruss from the University of Western Ontario.
A quick check shows he has posted to the following newsgroups recently:

soc.culture.misc, soc.motss, talk.bizarre, talk.origins, talk.politics.soviet,
talk.rumors, comp.lang.c x 3, comp.os.cpm, comp.sources.games.bugs,
comp.sys.apple x 3, comp.sys.ibm.pc, comp.text, rec.arts.sf-lovers,
rec.games.hack, rec.games.moria, rec.humor x 2, and alt.drugs x 3

While many postings are offensive and signed satan@uwovax.bitnet others
are informative and intelligent postings. I think what we have is a
net addict who is either very conservative and very very ignorant
or is just trying to get a response. I now believe it the the latter.
Either way, I think this man is a fool and deserves a slap on the hand.
However, I do not have the time nor money to make the needed calles to the
Univerisity of Western Ontario and inform them of his posting to soc.motss.

Anyway here are some of his "best" postings. Including his real .signature.

Scott (scott@geology.wisc.edu)
(uwvax!geowhiz!scott)

P.S. The worst thing about this guy is that he's an Apple // nut like myself.
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: See ya all
Message-ID: <3612@uwovax.uwo.ca>
Date: 21 Aug 89 15:33:55 GMT
Lines: 10

All ye homos, see you at my admissions office. After your first HIV infection
it oughtn't be long.

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| Satan @ uwovax.bitnet | See you in hell, buster |
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| Don't believe what people say about hell: the flames are nice and |
| warm. I love flames. |---------------------------------------
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Note: use uwovax.bitnet as a fast gateway to ABYSS.HELL.

Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: thunder and lightning
Message-ID: <3617@uwovax.uwo.ca>
Date: 21 Aug 89 17:04:43 GMT
References: <16364@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>
Lines: 45

In article <16364@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, nj@ernie.Berkeley.EDU (...) writes:
> some people say there's no God. some people say there is.
>
> i think there are two of Them. They are named either Harry and Esther
> or Jiminy and Maude, depending on which alphabet transliteration you
> pick. Their names translate roughly as "Medium" and "Regular." it is
> blasphemous to refer to Them in light conversation, or in conjunction
> with fishbait cheese.
[some funny stuff deleted -Scott]
> ... and the world screams, ``kiss me, son of god''

-- 
See ya in my admissions office.
satan @ uwovax.bitnet

Note that uwovax.bitnet has a fast ground-line to abyss.hell.

Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: First hand witness speaking Message-ID: <3614@uwovax.uwo.ca> Date: 21 Aug 89 16:21:55 GMT Lines: 10

Speaking from experience--I was there--the creationists are right, much as I HATE to give credit, but I must give it. Since then, I think I did a pretty damned good job of fucking it up.

+-------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+ | Satan @ uwovax.bitnet | I made you as you are, on God's | +-------------------------------------| lunch break. |------------------+ +----------------+

Use UWOVAX.BITNET as a convenient quick gateway to ABYSS.HELL.

Newsgroups: talk.politics.soviet Subject: My sentiments Message-ID: <3615@uwovax.uwo.ca> Date: 21 Aug 89 16:24:26 GMT Lines: 8

Better dead than red. Reds go and die a slow lingering death! Joining the Commie Party is treason to the human race--I believe in death penalties.

-- 
Alexander Pruss, at one of: Department of Applied Mathematics, Astronomy,
Mathematics, or Physics                     University of Western Ontario 
pruss@uwovax.uwo.ca         pruss@uwovax.BITNET          A5001@nve.uwo.ca 
[ahh satan does have some guts -Scott]

Newsgroups: talk.rumors Subject: I KNOW where Elvis is Message-ID: <3613@uwovax.uwo.ca> Date: 21 Aug 89 15:43:10 GMT Lines: 8

What are all these dumb postings about seeing Elvis alive?? He's right here, with me--entertains us every week. You must be seeing an impersonator, for I am quite sure it's him, here in the outer circle, on the edge of the abyss. You can send mail to Elvis, c/o:

--
Satan @ uwovax.bitnet

Note that uwovax.bitnet is a convenient and fast gateway to ABYSS.HELL.

Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Recommend a C compiler? Message-ID: <3587@uwovax.uwo.ca> Date: 18 Aug 89 16:16:14 GMT References: <660054@hpclwjm.HP.COM> <3642@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> Lines: 68 [Good informative posting about Turbo C deleted -Scott] Alexander Pruss, at one of: Department of Applied Mathematics, Astronomy, Mathematics, or Physics University of Western Ontario pruss@uwovax.uwo.ca pruss@uwovax.BITNET A5001@nve.uwo.ca ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nothing made by Microsoft is good. Who would write an operating system for an Intel CPU? Codeview bites, MeSsDOS is not a real operating system, Microsoft C optimizes by deleting code, Microsoft MAKE doesn't take Makefiles, Microsoft FORTRAN optimizes IO, not number crunching, and is otherwise totally featurless, and most of all: Bill Gates dresses funny. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The reason Microsoft made any money is because they went to bed with IBM. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM about Intel: I liked the 8088 so much, I bought the company... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Z80 bank switching is better than 8088 segmentation. Now try the 6502: that's a real processor. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The only thing wrong with the 386/486 is 8086 compatibility. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed are those of the inhabitants of P&A123B, and not the Department.

Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf-lovers Subject: Do you want SciFi short stories posted? Message-ID: <3593@uwovax.uwo.ca> Date: 18 Aug 89 16:45:35 GMT Lines: 7

Would it be appreciated if I posted some of my short stories on r.a.sf-l ???

[not if they are like your postings -Scott]

-- 
Alexander Pruss, at one of: Department of Applied Mathematics, Astronomy,
Mathematics, or Physics                     University of Western Ontario 
pruss@uwovax.uwo.ca         pruss@uwovax.BITNET          A5001@nve.uwo.ca 

Newsgroups: alt.drugs Subject: Get A Life Already! Don't Use Drugs! Message-ID: <3605@uwovax.uwo.ca> Date: 20 Aug 89 02:42:29 GMT Lines: 18

I just discovered this newsgroup and I have one thing to say. I can't believe that there are Homo Sapiens out there that actually promote the use of drugs. I thought that almost everyone that used computers had at least some level of intelligence. I can now see that I was wrong.

Please GET HELP. Stop ruining your lives before it is too late. Anyone that uses drugs for recreational purposes is an idiot. Surely you must realize this!

What does it take, does someone you know have to OD before you wise up? Get a real life and stop using drugs to get your kicks. There are under 18's that read this group, as if they didn't have enough peer pressure already!

STAY CLEAN!!!!!

-- 
satan@uwovax.uwo.ca

Newsgroups: alt.drugs Subject: Re: Them wicked, evil, inhuman [sic] politicians Message-ID: <3618@uwovax.uwo.ca> Date: 21 Aug 89 18:25:21 GMT References: <4462@portia.stanford.edu> <225100048@cdp> Lines: 22

In article <225100048@cdp>, bmasel@cdp.UUCP writes: > . Yes, local and state police can be sued if they violate your > rights. You may file against them either as individuals, if you > allege that they had reason to know their acts were unlawful, or > you may sue the body they work for if they were in good faith en > forcing a policy which is violative of your rights. I'm about to > file against County Sherrif Deputies who arrested me for > distributing pro-marijuana leaflets outside the County Coliseum > last weekend. Good work. Men like you should spend the rest of their lives in jail. You are incouraging our young people to take drugs.

> They don't arrest you for leafleting in Moscow > anymore. Have you tried giving out pro-marijuana leaflets in Moscow? They would probably arrest you--and rightly so--for being a capitalist agent and corrupting the youth.

People like you do not deserve to live.

--
Satan @ UWOVAX.BITNET                    |  See ya in hell, buster.

Newsgroups: alt.drugs Subject: Re: finding sources - a measured criticism Message-ID: <3610@uwovax.uwo.ca> Date: 21 Aug 89 15:12:54 GMT References: <6810@rpi.edu> Distribution: alt Lines: 42

In article <6810@rpi.edu>, cygnus@pawl.rpi.edu (Ron E. Sperber) writes: > hi all, > i was wondering how one could go about finding sources of drugs in > any particular area. (or,the Troy,NY area to be more specific). > any help would be appreciated. > thanks > > Ron Sperber

Well Ron, you must be a complete jerk. I hope (I can guess) that you have no friends. You don't deserve to be part of the human race. What kind of a moron posts a signed, addressed message to a government sponsored bulletin board asking for drugs?? Are you looking for your first friend to be in the FBI or DEA?? Or perhaps do you want to get intimately (and I mean intimately) acquainted with life in America's penal system?? You really have to watch your back in there I can tell you. Have you left your house in the last two years (you do live in a house don't you, not in a cardboard box with a NEWS terminal)?? Surely you jest when you say you can't find drugs in New York state. ... and there's no violent crime at all ... Get out more!!

In the mean time, I hope you discover the world of drugs. I hear the ones with needles are really good, especially if you share with all your friends (or at least accquaintances since we've already established that you are too lowly to have friends). Maybe then you'll die a slow lingering death before you become more of a costly burden to society (do you know how much it costs to keep scum like you in jail??).

If you have any comments (you are literate aren't you - we typed REAL slow so you could read this posting - maybe we should have used really small words and all CAPITALS as well), please reply to the address below. Believe me, it is real and mail can get through - you could always post your replies unless you are too much of a snivelling excuse for a man to let others see your pitiful thoughts. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Satan @ uwovax.bitnet | See you in hell buster ! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- DEAth to drug users! | Be a winner, don't use drugs | Up with the DEA ! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't mind flames, I kind of like them. (For obvious reasons) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Note: Use UWOVAX.BITNET as a fast gateway to ABYSS.HELL ( the fast track to doom )

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