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Freemansonry
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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 92 01:12:44 EST
From: Michael Turyn <mturyn@psyche.mit.edu>
Message-Id: <9201210612.AA25982@psyche.mit.edu>
To: Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu
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Shriners are all Masons---I always assumed that they were a way of keeping the
sillier ones occupied. Perhaps the car-owner was a conspiracy buff trying
to say 'Masons = Shriners = Devil-worshippers' by linking the symbols together.
In a university library I encountered a German book from the '30 's ---swastika
censor 's seals stamped all over it--called something like 'Weltjudenrei, Welt-
freimaurerei, und Welteskriege' ['World-Jewry, World-Free-Masonsry, and World
War']. I can 't read much German, but I could make out a chapter on England 's
beginning went something like, `One might ask what in England is controlled by
the Masons. One would better ask what is not. The Prince of Wales is always
made a Mason...' u.s.w. .
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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 92 11:00:33 EST
Message-Id: <9201211600.AA28889@teatime.think.com>
From: Doug MacDonald <macdon@think.com>
To: Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu
Cc: Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu
Subject:
If you are interested in the 'Templar heresy,' it is treated in the
following books as well any good history of the period.
Durrell, Lawrence. _Monsieur_. (fiction - book 1 of the Avignon Quintet)
Eco, Umberto. _Foucault's Pendulum_. (fiction - but bring a NoDoz)
Huxley, Aldous. _The Devils of Loudun_. (belles lettres)
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From: "The Rt. Rev. Wor. Dr. Y. Foo" <dryfoo@athena.mit.edu>
To: subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu
Subject: close but no fat havana...
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 92 13:01:44 EST
} Subgenius Digest Mon, 20 Jan 92 Volume 3 : Issue 15
}
} Subject: Masons
} Date: Sun, 19 Jan 92 9:09:17 PST
} From: Adam the Salubrious <adam@whim.santa-cruz.ca.us>
}...
} The mason digest mailing list says that there are three books that
} masons (at least the type of mason on the mailing list) have at every
} lodge. The bible, the bhagavad gita,...
Nope. We don't put the Bhagavad Gita on our "altar" -- We Write New
Chapters For It Monthly, and send them to World-wide Mason HQ underneath
the Washington Monument (NOT the Pentagon) where a team of trained
historiospurians engrave them on stone tablets and send them Back in
Time to the ancient (Masonic) priests of India, who reveal them to their
followers as sacred scripture. Now you know. So we'll have to kill
you. Or put something into your environment so that you don't believe
this story.
} and a third text written by a mason whose name escapes me....
Most High Worshipful William J. J. J. Morgan, Past High Priest and Holy
Moley, who wrote several famous books on Masonry, most especially
"Across the Lake -- my Travels with Masons". He is also known for
fostering the career of Albany political boss Thurlow Weed, who
hand-picked several candidates for President of the USA in the last
century.
See, we'll tell you all kinds of stuff if you'll just ask nicely.
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From: "Richard L. Rosen" <rlr@panix.com>
Message-Id: <9201211144.AA17986@panix.com>
Subject: Freemansonry
To: mc.lcs.mit.edu!Subgenius@cmcl2.nyu.edu
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 92 6:44:03 EST
In the immortal words of Paul Christopher Workman <pw0l+@andrew.cmu.edu>:
> >Jack T Chick in one of his tracts talks about the masons.
> >He says they are an idolatrous group, and worship someone named
> >Baphomet. Baphomet, he says, is just another name for satan.
>
> I'm told there was a group called the "Knights of Templar"
> who worshipped a diety called Baphomet.
> Are the Masons related to the Knights of Templar?
> OF COURSE THEY ARE! The first rule of conspiracy
> theories is:
> "Every group or individual, aside from yourself,
> is related, connected, or communicating with
> all other groups or individuals, and their primary
> objective is either world domination or persecution of YOU."
Recently I found a book I had been looking for for eons. It's called
"Architects of Fear: Conspiracy Theories and Paranoia in American Politics" by
George Johnson. It's been literally impossible to find (obviously because it's
ben suppressed by the c-n, or maybe even more obviously because they WANT me
to think it's being suppressed by the c-n!). But I managed to locate one in a
public library in White Plains, NY. Needless to say I took it home and, not
wanting to violate the principles of my library card by stealing this valuable
treasure, I xeroxed(tm) the entire book cover to cover on the copy machine at
work. Needless to say, this may explain why I am currently out of a job. No
matter.
The book is so fascinating that, whilst going through it with a (pink) high-
lighter, I found it necessary to highlight EVERY WORD IN THE BOOK! The focus
of the book is primarily the lunatic fringe conspiracy theorists of the right,
but Johnson gives some excellent historical background on the history of
conspiracy and the lineage of the "esoteric tradition". Chapter titles include
"The Architecture of Paranoia", "Philosophers and Magicians", "Thomas
Jefferson, Illuminatus", "The Great Pyramid Game", "The Computer in the
Vatican", "Bankers, Communists, and Jews" (how they all work together YEAH to
run everything), "The Doomsday Plot", and "The New Dark Ages Conspiracy"
(devoted completely to LaRouche). A chapter on "The New Right" has a
postscript that covers RAW, the Discordians, the Illuminatus books, and the
infamous chart that RAW and others put in the East Village Other in '69.
In the second chapter, Johnson covers a lot of historical ground, basically
starting with the Rosicrucians' evolution into Freemasonry and the subsequent
evolution of Freemasonry into Illuminism (details about Illuminati infiltration
into the Masonic lodges, rifts between Freemasonry and Illuminism, claims that
Jesuits infiltrated Masonic lodges (and the Illuminati) to reintroduce
mysticism into the cults of reason). The chapter contains a chart delineating
the history of the esoteric tradition from Isis worshippers to Pythagoreans to
Greek mystery cults to Gnostics to Cathars to the Knights Templar to the
Rosicrucians to the Freemasons. Johnson discusses a number of historical links
between the various groups, including a notion that the Masonic symbol--the "G"
embedded in the two right-angular Masonly tool-unit-things--is actually derived
from a Hebrew symbol for the Tetragrammation, a "yod" (Hebrew letter y/e
representing a HAND) in a triangle. (And I always thought the Masonic symbol
was a corruption of the EYE in the triangle/pyramid, representing perhaps a
NOSE. The concept of an "All-Knowing Nose" [or maybe an All-Smelling Nose] or
nose in the pyramid has its own unique appeal. Whatever, this proves the
significance of putting some body part inside a triangle or pyramid as a means
of producing something significant.)
So the answer to your question of "are the Masons related to the Knights of
Templar?" is yes. But then, your law of conspiracy is far more far-reaching
than the pithy historical evidence I provide from this little book.
-- "It's not an idea for a film, it's my actual life!" Rich Rosen rlr@panix.com------------------------------
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 92 09:31:04 EST Message-Id: <9201211431.AA17059@godot.think.com> To: Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu From: aldo@think.com Subject: Knights Templar
Message-Id: <MdSc=B_00WB9IGIo4R@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1992 03:05:33 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Christopher Workman <pw0l+@andrew.cmu.edu> To: Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Masons Cc: In-Reply-To: <9201190909.aa15588@whim.santa-cruz.ca.us> In-Reply-To: <9201190909.aa15588@whim.santa-cruz.ca.us>
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Are the Masons related to the Knights of Templar?
OF COURSE THEY ARE! The first rule of conspiracy theories is:
"Every group or individual, aside from yourself, is related, connected, or communicating with all other groups or individuals, and their primary objective is either world domination or persecution of YOU."
The Knights Templar were the bozos who ran around during the Crusades with the red cross on a white cloth background over their armor. You'll notice that Columbus' ships had this sign on their sails; obviously he was in on the conspiracy too.
For a refreshingly paranoid conspiracy theory that connects everything from Masons to Rosicrucians to Knights Templar to Merovingian kings to Cathars to Christ, complete with Latin anagrams on tombstones to back up their arguments, check out the book "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" -- I forget the authors' names. It's about ten years old, and you can often still find it in paperback bookstores.
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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 92 10:07:05 EST From: Andy Looney - Code 521 <looney@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> Message-Id: <9201211507.AA14871@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> To: Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Masons
William Poundstone's excellent book _Big Secrets_ has a long chapter on the Masons in which he reveals all of their secret passwords, handshakes, initiation rituals, etc.
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Message-Id: <9201212340.AA12272@enet-gw.pa.dec.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 92 15:40:19 PST From: "Alan H. Martin 19-Jan-1992 1004" <amartin@tle.enet.dec.com> To: bob@tle.enet.dec.com Cc: amartin@tle.enet.dec.com Subject: The Freemasons
>From: Nathan Charles Crowell <bigal@wpi.wpi.edu> > >Does anyone know of any good books on the Masons? I've been >meaning to read up on them, but didn't really know where to >start....
For the party line in the UK, check out _The Craft: A History of English Freemasonry_ (Crucible, 1986), by John Hamill, Librarian/Curator of the United Grand Lodge in England; I'm not sure what would be a good overview for the U.S. Check out the bookstore of the Scottish Rite Masonic National Museum of our American Heritage in Lexington, and Seven Stars Booksellers in Cambridge.
>Can anyone also tell me why on the same car that I saw with the >Mason's symbol on it, there was also the sword emblem (which I >believe signifies the Shriners), _and_ a symbol that was unmis- >takibly an upside-down pentagram with a goat's head in it?
Either you've got some funky Freemasons in Worcester, or you actually saw an emblem for the Order of the Eastern Star (OES). That's the "women's auxiliary" run by and for Freemasons and their female relatives.
>I'm not one to take the "Devil" worship stuff seriously (you'd have to believe >in God to believe there's a Devil), but what gives here anyway? ...
To estimate regional devil-worship, visit your local Chrysler dealership and ask the manager of the parts department how many replacement hood ornaments they sold last year. More replacements sold => more originals hanging from a chain around someone's neck down at the Galleria/Centrum. /AHM
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From: Nathan Charles Crowell <bigal@wpi.wpi.edu> Message-Id: <9201211638.AA20138@wpi.WPI.EDU> Subject: The Knights of Templar To: Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu Date: Tue, 21 Jan 92 11:38:27 EST
In the last issue, Paul writes:
> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1992 03:05:33 -0500 (EST) > From: Paul Christopher Workman <pw0l+@andrew.cmu.edu> > To: Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu > Subject: Masons >> > I'm told there was a group called the "Knights of Templar" > who worshipped a diety called Baphomet. A book in front
If anyone's read the book _Ivanhoe_ by Sir Walter Scott, you may remember that one of the characters was a member of the "Knights Templar". I don't recall the name, but if i remember correctly, these were supposed to be the equivalent of the Dungeons and Dragons paladin; a kind of pure-of-deed holy warrior, the epitome of chivalrous. If anyone knows what I'm talking about, feel free to correct me, etc.
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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 92 03:27:40 EST From: Jesus Christ On XTC <crimson@wpi.wpi.edu> Message-Id: <9201210827.AA12023@wpi.WPI.EDU> To: Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu
<From: Paul Christopher Workman <pw0l+@andrew.cmu.edu> <Subject: Masons <I'm told there was a group called the "Knights of Templar" [stuff deleted] <Are the Masons related to the Knights of Templar? [ deleted]
...perhaps it is time again for us all to make our fave research books known, to help out those who may be lacking in such?
ok, I'll start; not my fave [my fave was a verrry large book whose name I cannot recall that i ran across in the rare book room in the library of congress -- ok, so living in dc does have its advantages! ;-)] but good nonetheless as a primer:
The History of Secret Societies, by `Arkon Daraul'
Rev Dkr Nick LaRG0, ASC
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