Subgenius Digest V4 #107

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Subgenius Digest Tue, 1 Jun 93 Volume 4 : Issue 107

Today's Topics:
important new research project launched
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Date: Mon, 31 May 93 23:32:34 EDT
From: gumby@cygnus.com
Message-Id: <9306010332.AA08857@tweedledumb.cygnus.com>
To: subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu
Subject: important new research project launched

Subgenii should buzz him at Mach 3 to scare the shit out him --
preferably you should be swinging your keychain, snapping your
fingers and wearing a leather jacket, with the theme to West Side
Story blaring from the speakers of your flying saucer....sneeze on him
with your third nostril as you blow by!

From: blgould@panix.com (Bradley Gould)
Newsgroups: alt.security
Subject: Let's Build a Space Ship!
Date: 30 May 1993 17:47:30 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC

Hi. I was hoping that title would catch your attention. Yes, I do
propose that we build a spaceship. And not just a more powerful rocket,
(fusion or otherwise). I'm talking about a balls-to-the-wall, full-bore,
maximum overdrive, rip up the spaceways, rock-n-roll-it-ship!

I'll tell you right now I have no qualifications for my participation
in this "project", other than a rabid curiosity and a deep sense of faith
in humanity's destiny as a star-faring race. If you share that curiosity
and conviction, read on...

HISTORY:

This idea has grown out of my fascination with UFOs. I have spent a
number of years quietly compiling a body of facts regarding sightings,
dating back as far as 1549. I have expressly avoided association with
MUFON, CUFOS, etc., to keep my research as unbiased as possible. (I
must admit, however, that one of my prized posessions is a picture I
took of J. Allen Hynek in Brewster, N.Y. shortly before he died.)

I believe our planet HAS been, and continues to be, visited by space-
craft from other races. I further believe that these races have varying
degrees of technological expertise. Some are dirtier (more radioactive),
than others. Some prefer robotic investigations; others seem to prefer
the "personal touch". (Although even these may be alien "androids",
bioengineered to avoid the danger of direct contact, and/or to present
a more "humanoid" and thus, less threatening form.)

I only have a peripheral interest in CE3K issues, though. Like an
Iron-Age Ox Cart driver confronted by a time traveller in a 68' GTO,
what I'm REALLY interested in is sitting behind the steering wheel of
that sucker! If that means I have to humor the guy with the ignition
key, well...

THE GUY WITH THE IGNITION KEY ISSUES:

Obviously, we don't have E.T. standing before us, dangling a key-
chain. However, we DO need to consider those to whom such a project
represents a clear and unacceptable loss of control. I don't believe
the reduction in manned spaceflights has been due solely to budgetary
constraints. It's simply a matter of logistics. America exists solely
because it was too costly in the long run to subjugate economically.
Our government and business leaders realize that a guy on Mars might
not exhibit the same respect for Authority that an Earth-bound citizen
with nowhere to run would. Forget someone on Epsilon Eridani IV.

Each participant to this endeavor must be in it for the jazz. However,
I know there will be property issues at stake here. We therefore need to
establish some legally airtight method of individual recognition for any
technologies which come out of this project. I think we need to look
beyond the US Patent Office. The big-boys have that whole office in their
pockets.

I also realize we're talking about technologies with obvious weapons
applications. We need to establish a secure method of communications to
protect this project from the "nihilistic set".

I wish we lived in a more just and sane world, but unfortuately we
still have to look out for the parasites and sociopaths in high places.

ASSUMPTIONS:

While we iron out how to proceed, surrounded by the "pragmatists" described
above, I think I can suggest some directions in exploring the technologies
which have brought these craft to our little blue marble...

Based upon the fragments found in Las Cruces, NM I would say we have quite
a few technical issues to resolve before we can go a-wanderin'. This is
why you will find this same message repeated in a large number of news
groups detailed below.

The most interesting UFOs to me, exhibit incredible speeds and
maneuverability. (The GTOs of the spaceways, if you will.) I
believe that these particular UFOs manage to generate a "bubble of
relative space/time" different from ours. This explanation would allow
the craft to be "relatively" stationary to a given set of space/time
coordinates, yet accelerating at incredible velocities relative to
another set.

By creating such a bubble, two problems are solved simultaneously.
First, how do you protect a spacecraft's occupants at high speed from
G-forces and cosmic debris impact? Secondly, how do you overcome the
inertial mass/energy penalties inherent in velocities approaching and
exceeding the speed of light (C)?

The only way I can see to create such a bubble is to "suggest" to
local sub-atomic entities that they're really somewhere/when else in
relative space/time; to "con" them, if you will, into believing they
are relative to a completely different set of space/time coordinates.

This "suggestive" approach to sub-atomic manipulation is a key premise
of Greg Bear's SF novel 'Anvil of Stars'. Greg postulates that there is a
"data exchange" which occurs between elemental entities along priviledged
channels which may not even exist within our universe. In his book, he
approaches the subject from the perspective of communications and weapons
systems. I have always thought of it in terms of propulsion systems.

How would one generate such a relativity bubble? I think, by looking
at this problem as a "perceptual" one. I've always found the Heisenberg
uncertainty principle fascinating. I also find Schroedinger's cat-in-the-
box problem very interesting. If we could design a self cognizant computer
of such positional precision and certainty about it's own coordiates that
it could actually influence the Heisenberg plot of subatomic relationships
in a local radius large enough to encompass a spacecraft...

This "relativity box" would have to be something very different from
any other computer developed to date. It would need the ability to so
accurately simulate "being" somewhere/when else, that local phenomena
are forced to doubt their priveledged channel positional messages and
rewrite their own messages to conform to the simulation. It would have
to be able to perform this subatomic slight-of-hand with absolutely no
human perceptual intervention. The cat MUST stay in the box at all times.

Were I a theorist (which I'm not), I would look at achieving a
multi-dimensional array of Permanent Standing Wave (PSW) functions to
simulate the local relational matrix and then apply another complete set
of coordinates for a totally different matrix. I would, furthermore,
look at a "holographic" model to describe this matrix.

I don't know of a computer capable of coercing sub-atomic phenomena
into rewriting their positional data streams, but I DO feel that this
is a key technology to achieving the sort of vehicular performance
reported by UFO sightings; in the same sense that contemporary computers
control the flight surfaces of high-performance jet aircraft; aircraft
which would otherwise drop out of the sky like stones.

(Please note that the Las Cruces UFO appeared to have crashed during a
lightning storm. Could this have been due to computer overload?)

Here are the news groups in which this message is repeated:

alt.activism alt.cyberpunk
alt.cyberpunk.tech alt.dcom.telecom
alt.alien.visitors alt.fractals
alt.hackers alt.individualism
alt.privacy alt.rock-n-roll
alt.security alt.sci.physics.acoustics
alt.sci.physics.new-theories alt.security.pgp
alt.society.civil-liberty alt.society.futures
alt.society.revolution comp.ai
comp.ai.genetic comp.ai.neural-nets
comp.cog-eng comp.security.misc
comp.society comp.software.licensing
comp.specification comp.theory.dynamic-sys
comp.theory.self-org-sys misc.activism.progressive
misc.entrepreneurs misc.int-property
misc.legal.computing sci.astro
sci.bio.technology sci.cognitive
sci.cryonics sci.energy
sci.engr.biomed sci.engr.control
sci.fractals sci.geo.fluids
sci.geo.meteorology sci.materials
sci.math.symbolic sci.nanotech
sci.optics sci.philosophy.meta
sci.philosophy.tech sci.physics
sci.physics.fusion sci.physics.research
sci.psychology sci.skeptic
sci.space talk.politics.space

P.S.

PLEASE do not send me any E-Mail on CE3K unless you know of an E.T.
with detailed blueprints for what we're trying to achieve here. Do NOT
send me anything you value as an intellectual property until the legal
and security issues have been resolved.

If you, or someone you know, is in Public Relations, the media, etc.,
this could be very helpful in keeping the McCarthy wannabe's opening Coke
bottles with their butts instead of molesting honest, hard-working, space
cowboys like us.

If you know how to set up an alt.newsgroup for this venture, please
let me know.

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