Today's Topics:
Altering the cosmic parameters
Fwd: Harding Implicated in Attack on Kuwait
Jesus H. Bobbitt
Repost of #15
STOP DISASTERS ON PLANET EARTH (ABIAN)
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From: "Richard L. Rosen" <rlr@panix.com>
Message-Id: <199401261302.AA18831@panix2.panix.com>
Subject: Altering the cosmic parameters
To: Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 08:02:22 -0500 (EST)
In the immortal words of abian@iastate.edu (Alexander Abian):
>
> At least one hundred times I have proclaimed that I have no evidence no proof
> no nothing to give to you or to anyone else except telling you that my
> theories are based on my imagination. They inflate my ego and make me feel
> secure. I have made no secret of it. Haven't you seen my repeated statements
> to this effect! I have no experimental proof, evidence or nothing of that
> sort, except my imagination and my own deductions from my imaginations (which
> may not be accepted by everyone and by every self-appointed guardian and
> censor of science, truth and logic).
> ...
> The existence of everything, every living organism, from the most
> microscopic viruses to the human beings, giraffes, elephants, insects,
> fish, plants, etc, etc, the existence of all these is a direct consequence
> of the Earth itself and the Cosmic parameters of the Earth. They exist
> because the Cosmic parameters of the Earth have allowed and allow them to
> exist.
> People have gone to the Moon. There were no animals, no giraffes, no
> human beings, no fish, no trees on the Moon. Why ? Because (my
> deductions based on my imagination say) the cosmic parameters (of course
> included there the mass and the size , the orbit, etc.) of the Moon DID NOT
> ALLOW the existence of human beings, fish, plants , etc on the Moon. Is
> this clear ?
Yes, I get it now. We need to reset the cosmic parameters to better values
that will fix the Earth. Perhaps this is what the Indiana (??) legislature
was trying to do when they passed a law to "reset" the value of pi to 3.
(If pi isn't a cosmic parameter, what is?) If we all use our imaginations, we
can create realities with better parameters (e.g., where the parameter "nu?"
[the income in dadadollars of Rich Rosen] is much much LARGER--in a positive
numerically larger sort of way).
Reality, paging Sunny Kirsten, where are you when we need you?
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Message-ID: <QhFalL_00YUoQ3T_wx@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 08:12:55 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Glen Berger <peterb+@cmu.edu> To: The Dan & Eric Mailing List <danampersanderic+@andrew.cmu.edu>, Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Fwd: Harding Implicated in Attack on Kuwait In-Reply-To: <231316Z25011994@anon.penet.fi>
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Papers filed by the State Department have named figure skater Tonya Harding as a top advisor to Saddam Hussein at the time of his decision to invade Kuwait in 1990. Sources at the State Department have stated that Harding, who at the time was reported to be in training for the '91 World Figure Skating Championships, was actually in Iraq, where it is reported that she advised Hussein, "I think it would be really neat to invade Kuwait!" Hussein is said to have been so overwhelmed by Harding's enthusiasm, he authorized the invasion without further hesitation.
When asked to comment on these new charges, Jeff Gilooley, Harding's estranged ex-husband replied, "Hey, she told me she was visiting relatives."
An indictment is expected to follow.
The Warren Commission If you liked what we did with the Kennedy Investigation, Just wait 'til you see what we do with the Kerrigan affair!
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signoff Peter Berger <peterb@cmu.edu>
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Message-ID: <UhFaVDi00YUo03T2lp@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 07:55:43 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Glen Berger <peterb+@cmu.edu> To: The Dan & Eric Mailing List <danampersanderic+@andrew.cmu.edu>, Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu CC: Chris Koenigsberg <ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Jesus H. Bobbitt
I thought this little exchange was worth reproducing.
Peter Glen Berger <peterb+@CMU.EDU> writes: > "Gregory A. Haverkamp" <dietcoke+@CMU.EDU> writes: > > Excerpts from cmu.student.womens-center.discussion: 25-Jan-94 Re: > > Bobbitt trial by Scott Safier@CMU.EDU > > >> ...except perhaps leaving him, > > > > > >She is a good Catholic girl, and she felt that it was against her > > >religion to leave her husband. Are you now advocating a person > > >violating their religious tenants? > > > > And so, being a good Catholic, she sliced off her husband's penis? I > > hardly see the correlation. > > "If thine right eye offend thee, pluck it out....And if thy right hand > offend thee, cut it off." > Matthew 5:28-30 > > And I remind you that under Christian doctrine, Husband and Wife are > joined into one body, inseperable. She just took the Bible literally, > like a good Christian should. > > > Greg
Peter Glen Berger <peterb+@CMU.EDU> writes: > The more I think about it, the more I realize that the Bible totally > and completely justified Lorena Bobbitt's actions, in that she cast > away the sinful part of herself (her husband's penis) and thus saved > their marriage. Too bad the Devil (Howard Stern) tempted John away > into a life of sleazery. Had he only stayed with his Angelic and > oh-so-biblically-correct wife Lorena, he would surely go to Heaven. > "...for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should > perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell." > Matthew 5:28-30. > > Pete for Pope in '96! > Our Lady of Whetstone parish Donna M Riley <dr4h+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: > Peter, I, too, thought immediately of Matt. 5:29, and the duplications > of these wise words of Jesus in Matt. 18:8 and Mark 9:43. In fact, the > appearance of these words twice in one gospel, and the corroboration > between the two oldest gospels indicate that the account is close to > what the historical Jesus may have actually said... > > However, I much prefer the Revised Standard Version, which offers a > translation closer to the Greek: > > "If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and throw it away; it > is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be > thrown in to hell (Greek: Gehenna). And if your right hand causes you to > sin, cut it off and throw it away; it is better that you lose one of > your members than that your whole body go into hell." > > It appears that indeed the only mistake Lorena made was to undo the > "throwing away" of the "member" by aiding the doctors in its > reattachment. > > > > And, looking at Old Testament scripture: > > Deuteronomy 22:25 > But if in the open country a man meets a young woman who is betrothed, > and the man seizes her and lies with her, then only the man who lay with > her shall die. But to the young woman you shall do nothing; in the young > woman there is no offense punishable by death, for this case is like > that of a man attacking and murdering his neighbor.... > > > This law is enforced in some of the Old Testament's most graphic tales: > For example, the rape of Dinah in Genesis 34, or the rape of the > concubine in Judges 20. In both stories, not only the rapist, but all of > the men of his culture are to be put to death. > > > And then there is the story of Tamar in 2 Samuel 13... > > And Tamar took the cakes she had made, and brought them into the chamber > to Amnon her brother. But when she brought them near him to eat, he took > hold of her, and said to her, "Come, lie with me, my sister." She > answered him, "No, my brother, do not force me; for such a thing is not > done in Israel; do not do this wanton folly. As for me, where would I > carry my shame?"... But he would not listen to her; and being stronger > than she, he forced her, and lay with her..... > > And Tamar put ashes on her head, and rent the long robe which she wore; > and she laid her hand on her head, and went away, crying aloud as she > went. And her brother Absalom said to her, "Has Amnon your brother been > with you?"....But Absalom spoke to Amnon neither good nor bad; for > Absalom hated Amnon, because he had forced his siter Tamar.....Then > Absalom commanded his servants, "Mark when Amnon's heart is merry with > wine, and when I say to you, "Strike Amnon", then kill him....." > > > > Yeah, sure the women don't get to do any of the killing themselves, but > then we always knew that men wrote the accounts....... ;) > > > Donna, who is Presbyterian, but never learned any of this stuff in > Sunday School
Donna,
Thank you for pointing out more of the wisdom of Our Lord on the issue. Of course, I prefer the New Testament to the Old, because as we all know, Jesus made a new Covenant with us which superseded some of the older laws. So I view the Matthew 5 gospel as proof that Jesus still remains firm ... er, stalwart in his support of cutting off the penises of rapists.
signoff Peter Berger <peterb@cmu.edu>
signoff Peter Berger <peterb@cmu.edu>
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Message-Id: <9401260632.AA28287@media.mit.edu> To: subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Repost of #15 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 01:32:06 -0500 From: Michael Travers <mt@media.mit.edu>
This ultra-important digest was misplaced by factors Beyond Our Control.
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 00:05:02 EST From: Automatic Subgenius Digestifier <Subgenius-request@mc.lcs.mit.edu@mc.lcs.mit.edu> Reply-To: Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Subgenius Digest V5 #15 To: Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu
Subgenius Digest Tue, 25 Jan 94 Volume 5 : Issue 15
Today's Topics: conspiracy (almost) decoded - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Message-Id: <9401242250.AA27768@osc.versant.com> Subject: conspiracy (almost) decoded To: Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu Date: Mon, 24 Jan 94 14:50:08 PST From: "strick -- strick AT versant DOT com -- henry strickland" <strick@versant.com>
|| O SIBILE SI ERGO || FORTIBUS ES IN ERO || O NOBILE DEUS TRUX || VATIS IN EM || CAUX ET DEUX
Here's all my staff of cryptanalysts was/were able to come up with. It's not quite enough to understand the conspiracy. --strick
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>Desculpa por te ter mandado a file dos ftp's de volta... Wrong key! :-) >Mas afinal que RAIO e' o SQUISH? :-) >E' verdade, o cheque ja' vai a caminho, o u melhor, ja' VEM a caminho. Demoram >10 dias a liberta'-lo para mim e so' depois e' que eu posso manda-lo para o UK.
I suppose you realize that this is most likely Portuguese, which of course I don't know. But here's what I guess it means from my Spanish and French:
- --- >Desculpa por te ter mandado a file dos ftp's de volta... Wrong key! :-) "Sorry for sending you your two FTPs back. Wrong key! :-)"
>>Mas ("more") afinal ("finally?") que ("that") RAIO e' ("is") >>o ("the") SQUISH? :-) [This sentence eludes me.]
>E' verdade, o cheque ja' vai a caminho, o u melhor, ja' VEM a caminho. "It's true, the check is already on its way, or better yet, already CAME."
>Demoram 10 dias a liberta'-lo para mim e so' depois e' que eu posso >manda-lo para o UK. "It took 10 days for me to get it .... that I could send it to the UK." - ---
I think if I spent more time I could figure this out. But who has more time? Perhaps a Portuguese dictionary would help!
Steven
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From: christopher williams <cgw@unt.edu> Message-Id: <199401261619.KAA02157@sol.acs.unt.edu> Subject: STOP DISASTERS ON PLANET EARTH (ABIAN) To: Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 10:19:23 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: cgw@unt.edu
>Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 01:46:34 -0500 >From: Michael Travers <mt@media.mit.edu> >Message-Id: <9401250646.AA04285@media.mit.edu> >To: subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu >Subject: Alter the nefarious cosmic parameters of Earth [yadda yadda yadda]
oh come ON. you mean you didn't find this one much more entertaining?
