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Big Dummy's Guide to Astral Projection
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Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 02:23:12 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeff Johnston <podex@access.mountain.net>
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To: Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9502190206.A29062-0100000@Access.Mountain.Net>

I just got back from the Pittsburgh devival! It was a great show and I
came 4 times. Stang, legume and joe momma were there and some circus geeks.
my first devival made it all clear. I must begin saving for the end times
devival in 1998
EYIIIYIIIYIIIIYIII!

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Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 11:28:46 -0800 (PST)
From: bigdaddy@ccnet.com
Subject:
To: Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu
cc: Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9502191136.A25739-0100000@ccnet3>

Think of it as taking back control of the language from
Conspiracy-induced 'norms' and 'conventions'. An act of rebellion,
marking you as different from the masses of Pink Ones out there. Not to
mention it makes one look sufficiently weird as to be left alone when it
matters...

If I'm not mistaken, there's some kind of organization which takes
unorthodox spellings and turns them into dogma. Probably not
industrial-strength dogma, but dogma, so every official document looks
like what you've written here. I think they got a mention in that Douglas
Rushkoff book, *Cyberia*...

On Sun, 19 Feb 1995, Automatic Subgenius Digestifier wrote:
>
> Boy........
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> Dohnt deeez peepole no how too sphell?
>
> ;-) ;-)

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From: "J. Cooper" <coop@cs.bu.edu>
Message-Id: <199502191751.MAA24304@csa.bu.edu>
Subject: Big Dummy's Guide to Astral Projection
To: Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 12:50:58 -0500 (EST)

I didn't write this, but I used to know the guy who did. He is a good guy,
a modern-day CyberGuru, if you will. If anyone can do it, I would bet he
can.

Tell me if you can manage it.. especially those of you who already know
yoga..

Jeff Cooper at coop@bu.edu

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(Out Of Body Experiences)

Many people have questions on how to develop the skill for
OOBE's.. or Out Of Body Experiences. Some may call it Astral
Projection. The two are the same in most properties.. but
essentially, Astral projection is more of a planned cruise, with
a place or person in mind. OOBE is what it says. An Experience.
In this way, OOBE lets the mind be the guide. Subconsciously we
all know what areas we need to visit, and to deal with. The
planes we use to have the experience are real. If we try to limit
it to the plane we're on, just so we can visit someone across
town, we miss the point entirely. But of course, that type of
travel is not without it's rewards. OOBE will contain both types
of travels. Inner and outer. And they're the same.

Since We are part of the universe, so then the universe around
us is part of us. This implies that all can be experienced from
within. So the label OOBE can be misleading. All travels to other
planes are done within your own universe (which includes the
outside as well). This can be confusing, especially for those who
think they're going to FLY around their house. Or go visit
relatives. In truth this happens exactly so. Only within the
bubble of the defined universe as we perceive it.. If you are
part of it -You're In it, and it is In you. So travel can be done
from plane to plane, either way you call it.

In the next lesson - I will offer some tools to gain
confidence, and to learn how to achieve these experiences. These
tools may offer people a starting point, that is but a stepping
stone to the world waiting out there for them to visit.

Traveling Tips for Out Of Body Experiences.
__________________________________________

Relaxation is an art, not many of us can achieve. We may say
we do.. but we really do not do it correctly. The mind and body
RESTS.. but is not relaxed. The best way to relax is to do Yoga
exercises..and for this purpose, especially the DEATH POSE
(Savasana). This can be looked up in any yoga book, in the
library, or any bookstore. But here is the general idea:
Select a calm area to relax in, and try not to have any
disturbances. Before falling asleep is a good time to do this. In
your mind - talk yourself into relaxation - starting from the
feet.. ankles.. calfs.. knees.. thighs.. and on up, all the
way to the top of the head and face. Limb by limb. Spend at least
1 to 2 full minutes on EACH part of the body. And when done..
recheck the whole system. Imagine a Wave of energy that cools and
rolls over your body.. up and down, making sure that all parts
have achieved the relaxed state.

Once you are in this relaxed mode.. You must concentrate on your
breathing. Do not try to alter the breathing. Only calm it. Don't
force it to slow down. It will do that naturally. Only, you
should follow your breathing's travel, in and out of the body.
Imagine the air as energy. Breathing in..good energy. Breathing
out used up energy. In -- as a warm glow.. feeding your mind and
body... Out is a cool blue.. getting rid of used and bad energy.

When in a relaxed state..(this may take 20 minutes ... less if
you're more experienced) - Imagine floating on water, or in the
air. This is NOT yet an Out of Body experience. This is a
training course of the Body's state to be, prior to departure. Do
not try to depart at this time. You will surely fail. Or imagine
that you did go out, and you'd be fooling yourself.
This exercise should be done for several days/weeks for each
person. Up until the time the person can do this in a fairly fast
time (5 to 10 minutes) without much effort. It has to become an
experience the body understands, and not forced into, but rather
accepts as just another natural function.

One hour in this floating state (without traveling) - equals to
8 hours of sleep!!!!!!!!!

In very chaotic situations.. I can do this anywhere, even in a
crowd of people. Or at a party. I will sit aside for 3 minutes..
and will be seemingly alert, only quiet.
These 3 minutes will give me almost a half an hour of "departure"
from the surroundings. So this is the First Step. New Travelers -
Do not try and go any further at this time. This step is most
important. Without relaxation, it's not possible to leave the
body. Since the planes we're planning to visit are not "anywhere"
as such, we can take journeys that are millions of lightyears
away, as easily as walking around the room.
People who have had an OOBE, or a near OOBE will have many other
questions of "planes to visit" and the like. Those questions are
welcome. Only understand, that we can not miss steps. If we do,
we will fail.

THE NEXT STEP
ON OOBE'S - PREPARATION FOR LIFT OUT

Once a person can totally relax through the techniques in the
first lesson, they can try the first attempt to leave the body.
The goal is not to go right out and fly around in the universal
soup, but to exercise the "lifting out" procedure. There are some
important points to consider.
One is that you MUST do the exercises in the first lessons,
(relaxation and breathing), for a period of time, until all of it
becomes natural, and you can do it at will. Not having to fight
it.
Another is, that you must lose all EGO. It has no place during
travel. All other beings your mind generates, (or actually
existing), know you intimately, since they've been here, and in
fact they're part of us. Some will be nice, some will be angry.
It matters not. It is as in everyday life.
The important thing to understand is that Noone can harm you.
There is no need, and there is no way. The beings that you may
encounter can be of many different origins. Again, this matters
not, since communication is done with telepathy, and "thought
packets". This means, that one rush of feeling out of you can
mean 1000 words. Everyone does this from time to time, with
friends, parents, colleagues, partners. Only not consciously.
While traveling, there is no other way to communicate but with
feelings and thoughts. It surprises many, at first, how natural
this is to us.
Many people fear "elementals" and other beings causing them
harm. While this is possible, it is unlikely. Not at least in the
early stages. And later, not so, because of the experience gained
by traveling often.

Many asks: Is there any danger not returning into the body? The
answer is, that you'd have to be very accomplished, and do the
OOBE for a very long time, to have this danger. It is always
possible, but the chances are one in 10 million. The body - while
we're away - keeps naturally functioning by the subconscious self
preservation methods. The shell we live in, takes care of itself.
Even if our minds wonder. Therefore the chances of danger is
about the same as being hit by a truck from Nebraska, with a
certain licenseplate ending in 44W. Slim at best.

The hardest part is to lose all ego. This is most important. One
simply cannot walk among beings that are at a higher level and
expect to fool these beings. The thoughts will give them away. So
the best policy is to be very open, and offer all your being to
strangers you may meet. Being cautious is fine though. But other
beings are always very helpful, and understanding to the needs of
a "Student Flyer". At this part of the exercise - initial lift
out - even this is unimportant. Next to complete relaxation this
is the most difficult part to do in the whole series. And it
takes a lot of practice and discipline. Do not expect immediate
results. Chances are that you are not as accomplished in
relaxation methods, as you thought you were. So those first
exercised must be kept up rigorously.

LIFT OUT:

This part can be attempted, when we bring the body into full
relaxation. The best time to do it is in the evening, in bed,
just before falling asleep.

The breathing, and watching your breathing in and out, as it
flows, is very important. The mind stores lots of pictures from
the daily activities, and anticipates tomorrow's activities. All
this must go. It may take 20 to 30 minutes to clear the mind from
wondering. Concentrate on nothing but the breathing. Do not force
breathing. Let it take it's own course. (Refer to the BREATHING
TECHNIQUES exercises).

When everything has calmed down, and you see nothing but your
breath, as energy, going in and out of the body... Imagine
yourself floating on water, or just hanging in the air.

Then - lift slowly towards the ceiling. As far up as possible,
without straining. Letting the mind float out of the body. At
first it may just be a few inches, then a fallback. Keep doing
that for as long as you wish.
The procedure is that simple. The preparation is what takes the
time, and is most important.
This exercise comes easy to some, and not so easy to others.
Depending on the state of mind, and physical conditions.
BUT. It CAN be done by anyone. Depending on how badly they want
it.
After a person can lift out completely, they should stay close
to the body, and simply float around the room. Imitating walking
around is a good thing to do, because at this point we're not
used to being a ball of bodiless energy, so movement may be
awkward if we have nothing to relate to.
Once accomplished, we can simply "let go" and fly as we please.
The biggest question on OOBE ever, for new travelers is:
How do I know if I've really done it?
The answer is always very simple. If you don't "know", you have
not. If you have to ask, you have not either. Once you're "out"
of the body, you can touch, and experience everything around you
as if you were there. How real is it? As real as you are.
I often go to my own "Safe Place". And visit people, and other
places. The limit is nonexistent.

This text was offered for beginners. Advanced methods, and
traveling tips will follow as the need arises. But once a person
accomplishes what's in this lesson, they're usually on their own,
personalizing the process, and they will have no need for further
ideas. They will create their own. Sharing experiences will be
the only need. So Good Luck, and I hope this has helped to answer
some questions about OOBE. Any questions, before or during
training? Please feel free to E-mail.

DragonSeed 1686 (Baud Town, California)

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From: "J. Cooper" <coop@cs.bu.edu>
Message-Id: <199502192113.QAA25756@csa.bu.edu>
Subject: no subject (file transmission)
To: Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 16:13:09 -0500 (EST)

I didn't write this. It's from my files. Praise "Bob"!

coop

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Subject: How to win arguments
(Added to library Wed, 14 Dec 1994 16:06:29 +0800 (HKT))

How to Win Arguments

I argue very well. Ask any of my remaining friends. I can win an
argument on any topic, against any opponent. People know this, and
steer clear of me at parties. Often, as a sign of their great
respect, they don't even invite me. You too can win arguments.
Simply follow these rules:

* Drink Liquor.

Suppose you're at a party and some hotshot intellectual is expounding
on the economy of Peru, a subject you know nothing about. If you're
drinking some health-fanatic drink like grapefruit juice, you'll hang
back, afraid to display your ignorance, while the hotshot enthralls
your date. But if you drink several large martinis, you'll discover
you have STRONG VIEWS about the Peruvian economy. You'll be a WEALTH
of information. You'll argue forcefully, offering searing insights
and possibly upsetting furniture. People will be impressed. Some
may leave the room.

* Make things up.

Suppose, in the Peruvian economy argument, you are trying to prove
Peruvians are underpaid, a position you base solely on the fact that
YOU are underpaid, and you're damned if you're going to let a bunch
of Peruvians be better off. DON'T say: "I think Peruvians are
underpaid." Say: "The average Peruvian's salary in 1981 dollars
adjusted for the revised tax base is $1,452.81 per annum, which is
$836.07 before the mean gross poverty level."

NOTE: Always make up exact figures.

If an opponent asks you where you got your information, make THAT
up, too. Say: "This information comes from Dr. Hovel T. Moon's study
for the Buford Commission published May 9, 1982. Didn't you read it?"
Say this in the same tone of voice you would use to say "You left
your soiled underwear in my bath house."

* Use meaningless but weightly-sounding words and phrases.

Memorize this list:

Let me put it this way
In terms of
Vis-a-vis
Per se
As it were
Qua
So to speak

You should also memorize some Latin abbreviations such as "Q.E.D.,"
"e.g.," and "i.e." These are all short for "I speak Latin, and you do
not."

Here's how to use these words and phrases. Suppose you want to say:

"Peruvians would like to order appetizers more often, but they don't
have enough money."

You never win arguments talking like that. But you WILL win if you
say: "Let me put it this way. In terms of appetizers vis-a-vis
Peruvians qua Peruvians, they would like to order them more often,
so to speak, but they do not have enough money per se, as it were.
Q.E.D."

Only a fool would challenge that statement.

* Use snappy and irrelevant comebacks.

You need an arsenal of all-purpose irrelevent phrases to fire back
at your opponents when they make valid points. The best are:

You're begging the question.
You're being defensive.
Don't compare apples and oranges.
What are your parameters?

This last one is especially valuable. Nobody, other than
mathematicians, has the vaguest idea what "parameters" means.

Here's how to use your comebacks:

You say As Abraham Lincoln said in 1873...
Your opponents says Lincoln died in 1865.
You say You're begging the question.

OR

You say Liberians, like most Asians...
Your opponents says Liberia is in Africa.
You say You're being defensive.

* Compare your opponent to Adolf Hitler.

This is your heavy artillery, for when your opponent is obviously
right and you are spectacularly wrong. Bring Hitler up subtly. Say:
"That sounds suspiciously like something Adolf Hitler might say" or
"You certainly do remind me of Adolf Hitler."

So that's it: you now know how to out-argue anybody. Do not try to
pull any of this on people who carry weapons.

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Send $1 to the SubGenius Foundation, P.O. Box 140306, Dallas TX 75214
and learn just how much it will cost you to know what you REALLY think!
NO SALESMAN WILL CALL.

Subject: How to win arguments
(Added to library Wed, 14 Dec 1994 16:06:29 +0800 (HKT))

How to Win Arguments

I argue very well. Ask any of my remaining friends. I can win an
argument on any topic, against any opponent. People know this, and
steer clear of me at parties. Often, as a sign of their great
respect, they don't even invite me. You too can win arguments.
Simply follow these rules:

* Drink Liquor.

Suppose you're at a party and some hotshot intellectual is expounding
on the economy of Peru, a subject you know nothing about. If you're
drinking some health-fanatic drink like grapefruit juice, you'll hang
back, afraid to display your ignorance, while the hotshot enthralls
your date. But if you drink several large martinis, you'll discover
you have STRONG VIEWS about the Peruvian economy. You'll be a WEALTH
of information. You'll argue forcefully, offering searing insights
and possibly upsetting furniture. People will be impressed. Some
may leave the room.

* Make things up.

Suppose, in the Peruvian economy argument, you are trying to prove
Peruvians are underpaid, a position you base solely on the fact that
YOU are underpaid, and you're damned if you're going to let a bunch
of Peruvians be better off. DON'T say: "I think Peruvians are
underpaid." Say: "The average Peruvian's salary in 1981 dollars
adjusted for the revised tax base is $1,452.81 per annum, which is
$836.07 before the mean gross poverty level."

NOTE: Always make up exact figures.

If an opponent asks you where you got your information, make THAT
up, too. Say: "This information comes from Dr. Hovel T. Moon's study
for the Buford Commission published May 9, 1982. Didn't you read it?"
Say this in the same tone of voice you would use to say "You left
your soiled underwear in my bath house."

* Use meaningless but weightly-sounding words and phrases.

Memorize this list:

Let me put it this way
In terms of
Vis-a-vis
Per se
As it were
Qua
So to speak

You should also memorize some Latin abbreviations such as "Q.E.D.,"
"e.g.," and "i.e." These are all short for "I speak Latin, and you do
not."

Here's how to use these words and phrases. Suppose you want to say:

"Peruvians would like to order appetizers more often, but they don't
have enough money."

You never win arguments talking like that. But you WILL win if you
say: "Let me put it this way. In terms of appetizers vis-a-vis
Peruvians qua Peruvians, they would like to order them more often,
so to speak, but they do not have enough money per se, as it were.
Q.E.D."

Only a fool would challenge that statement.

* Use snappy and irrelevant comebacks.

You need an arsenal of all-purpose irrelevent phrases to fire back
at your opponents when they make valid points. The best are:

You're begging the question.
You're being defensive.
Don't compare apples and oranges.
What are your parameters?

This last one is especially valuable. Nobody, other than
mathematicians, has the vaguest idea what "parameters" means.

Here's how to use your comebacks:

You say As Abraham Lincoln said in 1873...
Your opponents says Lincoln died in 1865.
You say You're begging the question.

OR

You say Liberians, like most Asians...
Your opponents says Liberia is in Africa.
You say You're being defensive.

* Compare your opponent to Adolf Hitler.

This is your heavy artillery, for when your opponent is obviously
right and you are spectacularly wrong. Bring Hitler up subtly. Say:
"That sounds suspiciously like something Adolf Hitler might say" or
"You certainly do remind me of Adolf Hitler."

So that's it: you now know how to out-argue anybody. Do not try to
pull any of this on people who carry weapons.

**********************************************************************

Send $1 to the SubGenius Foundation, P.O. Box 140306, Dallas TX 75214
and learn just how much it will cost you to know what you REALLY think!
NO SALESMAN WILL CALL.

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