Subgenius Digest V6 #80

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Subgenius Digest Thu, 27 Apr 95 Volume 6 : Issue 80

Today's Topics:

m'sieur
Read Me (not)
Scary scary, quite contrary.
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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 15:34:36 -0400
Message-Id: <199504261934.AA01832@access5.digex.net>
To: Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu
From: Bill Westfield <bwest@access.digex.net>
Subject:

>Something weird about the coverage we get in the UK, for starters
>Hillary Clinton talking about people "Sharing their grief and worries
>with parents and friends" introducing a sort of national therapy day.
>Obviously families and friends will be traumatised etc. but the whole
>nation? Is it true? Shocked obviously but really worried etc.? This is
>really only your second. You get used to it..............

Well, as a matter of fact, although your point is well taken (and well
given), the technology that either of our countries is capable of using at
this time is far superior to that which was available when the IRA threat
became apparent on your side of the pond. That, coupled with the advantage
we have of being on friendly terms with our neighboring countries, means
that MOST terrorist threats that we need to consider will come from outside
our physical borders (and I don't think ANYONE can swim here from Europe),
so there is somewhat of an advantage in terms of "tracking" individuals
actions. I personaly don't want to "get used" to terrorist actions, and
although I'm sure some goofball will blow something up from time to time, I
think if we adopt a policy (and we're not far from it) of wiping out his
entire liniage, we stand a great chance of averting all but the most insane
perpetrators!

The real danger, as far as I can see it, isn't the singular attack, but in
the developing of a national "psudo-apathy" about such things. Also, this
was a "Great Time of Testing" for our President, being the public figure
that he is, and a multi-dimensional stand, including both charity and
vengance, was important for his relationship with the American people.

Now if we can just find ways to clean out the scum and illiteracy from our
other government buildings, without the need for violent action, we can
reduce the chances of terrorist attacks sponsored from within our
boundries!

Faith is the emaculate conception of knowedge.

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From: MARK DANIELS <AVYIMAR@ccn4.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>
Organization: CCC, The University of Nottingham
To: Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 12:53:43 GMT0BST
Subject: m'sieur
Message-ID: <4C44E0252B4@ccn4.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>

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From: kingston livingston III <HIS2DGC@ARTS-01.NOVELL.LEEDS.AC.UK>
To: avyimar@ccn4.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk
Date sent: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 12:14:34 GMT
Subject: m'sieur
Priority: normal

zoltan: d'you reckon you could send this on as well? cheers ears!

er, just a quick thing: what exactly is a "day of morning"? call me a
stoopid eng-aah-leash-man but did you all just stay in bed drinking
coffee and reading the sports pages? i mean, what happened at lunch
time? and anyway what relevance has that got to lots of innocent
people being blown up by some insane ex-marine with a bomb fetish and
no sausage power in his pants? plus oprah + billy graham! aye
caramba, it's a wierd sort o' therapy - 1998 can't come too soon, eh.
plus regarding that beer-outlet-cum-disney-world: hoyah! the
reality of duff gardens explained. but why do i have so send all my
stuff via my serbocroation compadre? - oh no it must be the scarey
ira shadow (plymoth has the slack robbing trace elements Crass and
Simple in the water). dryfoo san, your know ledges are requested....

Mark Daniels



Home pages: http://unicorn.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk/~avyimar/downmyclub.html

More slack than something that isn't taut.

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Message-Id: <v01510100abc45103e4c4@[128.103.235.27]>
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:38:36 -0400
To: Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu
From: Subliminal Data <davis@davis.harvard.edu>
Subject: Read Me (not)

(While playing with the newest iteration of Netscape and its "client pull"
functions, I pondered the implications of "new features" (like remote
client scripting) in an slackful, yet increasingly commercialized
product...)

Does anyone recall seeing a c64/128 file entitled "DO NOT READ"?

Ok - I realize that such a name could invoke a rather large subset of
filenames among c65/128 files, but this particular "DO NOT READ" was quite
distinctive and of potential interest to SubG and con interests alike.

As I recall, it was a simple BASIC program consisting of a bunch of text
strings making up a rather silly story - a sort of schizophrenic rambling
about a moose - or something like that. It must have been back in '87 or so
when I saw it, so I can't remeber much else. Though quite disjointed, you
could certainly read it - at first - but about halfway through you got the
feeling that it was somehow messing with your head. I quit about two-thirds
of the way through after becoming quite mesmerized and lightheaded. The
friend who'd shown it laughed when I gave up, admitting it had had a
similar effect on him.

We scrolled through the program on the screen - nothing much besides the
text and print statements, except for a peek() statement every now and then
replacing a particular word in the text. There was also, of course, a
short piece of machine code at the end in poke() statements. Not wanting
to analyse the machine code at the time, we figured that the program
achieved its effect either by rapidly shifting the position of key words in
an attept to throw off the saccade motion of the eyes in reading, causing
dizzyness, confusion, etc... We agreed it was fucked-up, went back to our
computer "activities" and that was that. Maybe we'd overindulged in 'Frop,
we joked, though we both felt a bit uneasy about the prospect of being
"programmed" (I perfer my own "insanity" to someone else's, thank you)

It would be most interesting, and perhaps alarming, if someone had seen
this or a similar file, and could explain its operation.

Sing while you may,

Alexander Davis
Signals Collection Officer
Subliminal Data
davis@davis.harvard.edu

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From: MARK DANIELS <AVYIMAR@ccn4.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>
Organization: CCC, The University of Nottingham
To: Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 09:23:54 GMT0BST
Subject: Scary scary, quite contrary.
Message-ID: <4C0CE692C6A@ccn4.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk>

>
> >From: Michael Salmond <M.Salmond@plymouth.ac.uk>
> >Small subject: Oklahoma (forgine any mis-spelling.)
>
> >Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to make out you are a bunch o'
> >wussies or anything and obviously for Americans it is scary. I grew
> >up with the IRA threat as part of everyday life - reports, explosions
> >etc. We sure as hell didn't get any therapy for it though.
> >
> >Mike S.
>
Yes - it`s been ever so scary here in Britain. I don`t
know how I`ve survived the last 22 years with the risk of being blown
up by the IRA being so high, and the government hasn't offered us so
much as a consultant psychiatrist, let alone one of those ball things
for executive types that you sort of squeeze, and it instantly cures
even the most pitiful psychological cripple.
I don`t mind telling you though (especially you ladies out there),
I`ve been pretty devillishly brave through it all, with a bit of
daring thrown in, and just a hint of,
well, sexual prowess, if I may say so - your Oklahoma City nonsense
is rather trifling - we get those in the average lunch break - we`ve
stopped noticing them to be honest. I normally just yawn when I hear
yet another earth-shattering blast that rips the heart out of yet
another of our great cities. Sometimes I nod off to sleep when it
happens, so I`m often getting into trouble for missing appointments.
Course, we never 'ad bananas durin' the war, so when they arrived,
us kids what 'ad been born durin' the war 'ad never seen bananas, so
when the bananas arrived, we dint know what ter do wiv them, on
account of we 'adn't 'ad no bananas when the war was on [.........]

Mark Daniels



Home pages: http://unicorn.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk/~avyimar/downmyclub.html

More slack than something that isn't taut.

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Message-Id: <199504262259.RAA34625@audumla.students.wisc.edu>
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 18:27:09 -0500
To: Subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu
From: "Anson F. Davis, esq." <afdavis@students.wisc.edu>

>Message-Id: <9504251503.AA01515@thelonious.MIT.EDU>
>From: "The Rt. Rev. Wor. Dr. Y. Foo, FRC" <dryfoo@mit.edu>
>To: subgenius@mc.lcs.mit.edu
>Subject: yeah, well
>Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 11:03:04 EDT

Several eloquent paragraphs callously deleted.

>BY THE WAY, maybe you can help me out on this one: Suppose that you were
>PM John Major, and that you wanted to change Prez Bill Clinton's
>attitude about the IRA, Sinn Fein and all that. If you could have Brit
>Secret Service agents infiltrate a fringe-nut US militia group, what
>sort of thing would you want your operatives to incite that group to do
>in order to change US opinion about terrorist bombers and their bombing
>campaigns? I'm sure there's probably something they could do that would
>have the desired effect, but I'm having trouble figuring out what it
>might be. Let me know if you can think of anything. (Extra points for
>answering this one: Did I spend too much time during my recent air
>travels reading Larouchie newspapers?)
>
>-- dr foo

No Shit. Even if your conspiracy turns out to be a hollow one (although I
wouldn't put anything past that devious, Machiavellian wonderboy, John
Major), didn't Clinton just finish a round of talks with Sinn Fein? No
wonder Major was going ape shit. Where the hell does Clinton get off
meeting with IRA terrorists one day, and then calling terrorists in the US
"evil cowards" the next? Apparently blowing up children in other countries
is a matter that we shouldn't pass judgement on; after all that's the UK's
own domestic business, right? But, by god, Americans won't stand for their
children being bombed at home. Suddenly, random violence isn't just
something you read about happening to the rest of the world anymore.
Welcome to the planet, Mr. President.

Incidentally, was anyone else bothered by the fact that as soon as the
bombing was reported, before there was any evidence pointing in any
direction, the first scapegoats...sorry, suspects announced on the news
were people from the middle east and members of fringe political
organizations? Who else thinks this is going to be used as an excuse to
harrass nonconformists and brand them as terrorist sympathizers if they
object? I know Dobbs won't take any shit, but I fear for the others less
able to protect themselves.
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|Anson Davis |
|afdavis@students.wisc.edu |
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|"There is a pleasure sure in being|"We are as private parts to the Gods;|
| mad which none but madmen know." | they play with us for sport." |
| --Dryden | --Lord Melchett |
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