Subject: The Price Of Pansyhood

From: Fernandinande of Lemuria <lemurama@mindXspring.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.slack
Reply-To: lemurama@mindXspring.com
Date: Wed, Sep 12, 2001 8:54 PM
Message-ID: <gk00qtgjfa02bq23ckf4onuped8u1p62bt@4ax.com>

http://www.fredoneverything.net/NewYork.html
(September 12)

The World Trade Center
The Price Of Pansyhood

A few unorganized thoughts regarding the events in New York:

(1) We lost. Our moral posturing about our degradation is merely
embarrassing. We have been made fools of, expertly and calculatedly,
in the greatest military defeat the country has suffered since we
fled from Viet Nam. The Moslem world is laughing and dancing in the
streets. The rest of the earth, while often sympathetic, sees us
as the weak and helpless nation that we are.

The casualty figures aren't in, but 10,000 dead seems reasonable,
and we wring our hands and speak of grief therapy.

We lost.

(2) We cannot stop it from happening again. Thousands of aircraft
constantly use O'Hare, a few minutes flying time from the Sears Tower.

(3) Our politicians and talking heads speak of "a cowardly act of
terrorism." It was neither cowardly nor, I think, terrorism.
Hijacking an aircraft and driving it into a building isn't cowardly.
Would you do it? It requires great courage and dedication -- which
our enemies have, and we do not. One may mince words, but to me the
attack looked like an act of war. Not having bombing craft of their
own, they used ours. When we bombed Hanoi and Hamburg, was that
terrorism?

(4) The attack was beautifully conceived and executed. These guys
are good. They were clearly looking to inflict the maximum
humiliation on the United States, in the most visible way possible,
and they did. The sight of those two towers collapsing will leave
nobody's mind. If we do nothing of importance in return, and it is
my guess that we won't, the entire earth will see that we are a
nation of epicenes. Silly cruise-missile attacks on Afghanistan
will just heighten the indignity.

(5) In watching the coverage, I was struck by the tone of passive
acquiescence. Not once, in hours of listening, did I hear anyone
express anger. No one said, coldly but in deadly seriousness,
"People are going to die for this, a whole lot of people." There
was talk of tracking down bin Laden and bringing him to justice.
"Terrorism experts" spoke of months of investigation to find who
was responsible, which means we will do nothing. Blonde bimbos
babbled of coping strategies and counseling and how our children
needed support. There was no talk of retaliation.

(6) The Israelis, when hit, hit back. They hit back hard. But
Israel is run by men. We are run by women. Perhaps two-thirds
of the newscasters were blonde drones who spoke of the attack over
and over as a tragedy, as though it had been an unusually bad storm
-- unfortunate, but inevitable, and now we must get on with our
lives. The experts and politicians, nominally male, were effeminate
and soft little things. When a feminized society runs up against
male enemies -- and bin Laden, whatever else he is, is a man -- it
loses. We have.

(7) We haven't conceded that the Moslem world is our enemy, nor that
we are at war. We see each defeat and humiliation in isolation, as
a unique incident unrelated to anything else. The 241 Marines killed
by the truck bomb in Beirut, the extended humiliation of the hostages
taken by Iran, the war with Iraq, the bombing of the Cole, the
destruction of the embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, the devastation
of the Starke, the Saudi barracks, the dropping of airliner after
airliner -- these we see as anecdotes, like pileups of cars on a
snowy road. They see these things as war.

We face an enemy more intelligent than we are.

(8) We think we are a superpower. Actually we are not, except in
the useless sense of having nuclear weapons. We could win an air
war with almost anyone, yes, or a naval war in mid-Pacific. Few
Americans realize how small our forces are today, how demoralized
and weakened by social experimentation. If we had to fight a ground
war in terrain with cover, a war in which we would take casualties,
we would lose.

(9) I have heard some grrr-woofwoofery about how we should invade
Afghanistan and teach those ragheads a lesson. Has anyone noticed
where Afghanistan is? How would we get there? Across Pakistan, a
Moslem country? Or through India? Do we suppose Iran would give us
overflight rights to bomb another Moslem country? Or will our
supply lines go across Russia through Turkmenistan? Do we imagine
that we have the airlift or sealift? What effect do we think bombing
might have on Afghanistan, a country that is essentially rubble to
begin with?

We backed out of Somalia, a Moslem country, when a couple of GIs got
killed and dragged through the streets on TV. Afghans are not pansies.
They whipped the Russians. Our sensitive and socially-conscious
troops would curl up in balls.

(10) To win against a more powerful enemy, one forces him to fight a
kind of war for which he isn't prepared. Iraq lost the Gulf War
because it fought exactly the kind of war in which American forces
are unbeatable: Hussein played to his weaknesses and our strengths.
The Vietnamese did the opposite. They defeated us by fighting a
guerrilla war that didn't give us anything to hit. They understood
us. We didn't understand them.

The Moslem world is doing the same thing. Because their troops, or
terrorists as we call them, are not sponsored by a country, we don't
know who to hit. Note that Yasser Arafat, bin Laden, and the Taliban
are all denying any part in the destruction of New York. At best,
we might, with our creaky intelligence apparatus, find Laden and kill
him. It's not worth doing: Not only would he have defeated America
as nobody ever has, but he would then be a martyr. Face it: The Arabs
are smarter than we are.

(11) We are militarily weak because we have done what we usually do:
If no enemy is immediately in sight, we cut our forces to the bone,
stop most R&D, and focus chiefly on sensitivity training about
homosexuals. When we need a military, we don't have one. Then we
are inutterably surprised.

(12) The only way we could save any dignity and respect in the world
be to hit back so hard as to make teeth rattle around the world. A
good approach would be to have NSA fabricate intercepts proving that
Libya was responsible, mobilize nationally, invade, and make Libya
permanently a US colony. Most Arab countries are militarily helpless,
and that is the only kind our forces could defeat. Doing this, doing
anything other than whimpering, would require that ancient military
virtue known as "balls." Does Katie Couric have them?

©Fred Reed 2001. All rights reserved.
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Subject: Re: The Price Of Pansyhood
From: "Ricky Nielsen" <Rickyn@lor.net>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.slack
Date: Thu, Sep 13, 2001 12:22 AM
Message-ID: <7wWn7.200$2U3.60342325@news2.randori.com>

My thoughts on this
Fernandinande of Lemuria wrote in message ...
>http://www.fredoneverything.net/NewYork.html
>(September 12)
>
>The World Trade Center
>The Price Of Pansyhood
>
>
>A few unorganized thoughts regarding the events in New York:
>
>(1) We lost. Our moral posturing about our degradation is merely
>embarrassing. We have been made fools of, expertly and calculatedly,
>in the greatest military defeat the country has suffered since we
>fled from Viet Nam. The Moslem world is laughing and dancing in the
>streets. The rest of the earth, while often sympathetic, sees us
>as the weak and helpless nation that we are.
>
>The casualty figures aren't in, but 10,000 dead seems reasonable,
>and we wring our hands and speak of grief therapy.
>
>We lost.

We only lost if it changes the way we live and interact with the rest of the
world in a negative way. If we don't give in to the baser reactions and go
down to that level then we don't lose but come out stronger.
>
>(2) We cannot stop it from happening again. Thousands of aircraft
>constantly use O'Hare, a few minutes flying time from the Sears Tower.

Cost of freedom is that risks are there.
>
>(3) Our politicians and talking heads speak of "a cowardly act of
>terrorism." It was neither cowardly nor, I think, terrorism.
>Hijacking an aircraft and driving it into a building isn't cowardly.
>Would you do it? It requires great courage and dedication -- which
>our enemies have, and we do not. One may mince words, but to me the
>attack looked like an act of war. Not having bombing craft of their
>own, they used ours. When we bombed Hanoi and Hamburg, was that
>terrorism?

Two parts yes it was cowardly because they are not standing and saying me I
did that/ second part no it wasn't terrorism it was the closely related
''stategic" subtle difference but important the people in those cities knew
their enemy knew it was likely to happen (the countries being at war at the
time.
>
>(4) The attack was beautifully conceived and executed. These guys
>are good. They were clearly looking to inflict the maximum
>humiliation on the United States, in the most visible way possible,
>and they did. The sight of those two towers collapsing will leave
>nobody's mind. If we do nothing of importance in return, and it is
>my guess that we won't, the entire earth will see that we are a
>nation of epicenes. Silly cruise-missile attacks on Afghanistan
>will just heighten the indignity.

I question the word beautiful? I see nothing of beauty in this. I also think
your guess is wrong but time will tell.
>
>(5) In watching the coverage, I was struck by the tone of passive
>acquiescence. Not once, in hours of listening, did I hear anyone
>express anger. No one said, coldly but in deadly seriousness,
>"People are going to die for this, a whole lot of people." There
>was talk of tracking down bin Laden and bringing him to justice.
> "Terrorism experts" spoke of months of investigation to find who
>was responsible, which means we will do nothing. Blonde bimbos
>babbled of coping strategies and counseling and how our children
>needed support. There was no talk of retaliation.

Better than going off halfcocked and stirring up a lot of resentment against
the Law abiding Islamics in this country who had nothing to do with this we
don't need a reoccurance of the ww2 internment camps. Revenge is a dish
served better cold>
>
>(6) The Israelis, when hit, hit back. They hit back hard. But
>Israel is run by men. We are run by women. Perhaps two-thirds
>of the newscasters were blonde drones who spoke of the attack over
>and over as a tragedy, as though it had been an unusually bad storm
>-- unfortunate, but inevitable, and now we must get on with our
>lives. The experts and politicians, nominally male, were effeminate
>and soft little things. When a feminized society runs up against
>male enemies -- and bin Laden, whatever else he is, is a man -- it
>loses. We have.

A man wouldn't be denying his involvment if he was the backing what he is is
a rich religious fanatic/ again we don't lose unless we buckle under to him
and change our lives. Violence is not what makes a man a man reason and
honor is what makes a man a a man
>
>(7) We haven't conceded that the Moslem world is our enemy, nor that
>we are at war. We see each defeat and humiliation in isolation, as
>a unique incident unrelated to anything else. The 241 Marines killed
>by the truck bomb in Beirut, the extended humiliation of the hostages
>taken by Iran, the war with Iraq, the bombing of the Cole, the
>destruction of the embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, the devastation
>of the Starke, the Saudi barracks, the dropping of airliner after
>airliner -- these we see as anecdotes, like pileups of cars on a
> snowy road. They see these things as war.

the whole of the muslim world is not our enemy/ just the relatively small
minority that preach Jihad. Do some research the quotes these fanatics use
from the Koran are as twisted out of contex as the quotes from the bible
that the small percentage of violent chrisitans are. it is no more
mainstream islamic than snake handlers are mainstream christian is. Honor
calls for us to be just and make damn sure we have the right man for we
string im up
>
>We face an enemy more intelligent than we are.

Violence and cowardice do not make intelligence
>
>(8) We think we are a superpower. Actually we are not, except in
>the useless sense of having nuclear weapons. We could win an air
>war with almost anyone, yes, or a naval war in mid-Pacific. Few
>Americans realize how small our forces are today, how demoralized
>and weakened by social experimentation. If we had to fight a ground
>war in terrain with cover, a war in which we would take casualties,
>we would lose.

You underestimate the great will of the American people it takes much to
rise but when it does nothing can or will stop us.
>
>(9) I have heard some grrr-woofwoofery about how we should invade
>Afghanistan and teach those ragheads a lesson. Has anyone noticed
>where Afghanistan is? How would we get there? Across Pakistan, a
>Moslem country? Or through India? Do we suppose Iran would give us
>overflight rights to bomb another Moslem country? Or will our
>supply lines go across Russia through Turkmenistan? Do we imagine
>that we have the airlift or sealift? What effect do we think bombing
>might have on Afghanistan, a country that is essentially rubble to
>begin with?
Then why is the Taliban been on the news twice a day whining like whipped
dogs about gee it couldn't have been Ladin we don't let him do that stuff
they are scared and crapping in their burnooses
>
>We backed out of Somalia, a Moslem country, when a couple of GIs got
>killed and dragged through the streets on TV. Afghans are not pansies.
>They whipped the Russians. Our sensitive and socially-conscious
>troops would curl up in balls.

Big deal the Russians weren't motivated same as Us in Viet
>
>(10) To win against a more powerful enemy, one forces him to fight a
>kind of war for which he isn't prepared. Iraq lost the Gulf War
>because it fought exactly the kind of war in which American forces
>are unbeatable: Hussein played to his weaknesses and our strengths.
>The Vietnamese did the opposite. They defeated us by fighting a
>guerrilla war that didn't give us anything to hit. They understood
>us. We didn't understand them.

We lost the Vietnam war because we didn't have the will to win it
>
>The Moslem world is doing the same thing. Because their troops, or
>terrorists as we call them, are not sponsored by a country, we don't
>know who to hit. Note that Yasser Arafat, bin Laden, and the Taliban
>are all denying any part in the destruction of New York. At best,
>we might, with our creaky intelligence apparatus, find Laden and kill
>him. It's not worth doing: Not only would he have defeated America
>as nobody ever has, but he would then be a martyr. Face it: The Arabs
>are smarter than we are.

More cowardly for sure to strike and deny it is nothing less.He only defeats
us if we buckle to fear and anger if we stay our course and say fuck you we
don't lose we may die but we don't lose. I think the best outcome would be
putting Bin Laden in court taking his money and letting him rot in some
jail till his name is just a footnote in the records. If he is the one that
is
>
>(11) We are militarily weak because we have done what we usually do:
>If no enemy is immediately in sight, we cut our forces to the bone,
>stop most R&D, and focus chiefly on sensitivity training about
>homosexuals. When we need a military, we don't have one. Then we
>are inutterably surprised.

cost of freedom
>
>(12) The only way we could save any dignity and respect in the world
>be to hit back so hard as to make teeth rattle around the world. A
>good approach would be to have NSA fabricate intercepts proving that
>Libya was responsible, mobilize nationally, invade, and make Libya
>permanently a US colony. Most Arab countries are militarily helpless,
>and that is the only kind our forces could defeat. Doing this, doing
>anything other than whimpering, would require that ancient military
>virtue known as "balls." Does Katie Couric have them?

Lying is justice? This solution would create more of a pool of people who
hate us
>
>©Fred Reed 2001. All rights reserved.
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Subject: Re: The Price Of Pansyhood
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.slack
Date: Thu, Sep 13, 2001 9:49 AM
Message-ID: <130920010949158389%stang@subgenius.com>

In article <7wWn7.200$2U3.60342325@news2.randori.com>, Ricky Nielsen
<Rickyn@lor.net> wrote:

> My thoughts on this
> Fernandinande of Lemuria wrote in message ...
> >http://www.fredoneverything.net/NewYork.html
> >(September 12)
> >
> >The World Trade Center
> >The Price Of Pansyhood
> >

Fred Reed is a big homo, nyah nyah, nyah nyah. Unless he stops whining
and simpering from his pussy-ass girlie-boy website, HIDING inside the
INTERNET with his whimpering little prissy TYPED complaints, and GETS
REAL, and LEADS this invasion of Libya he suggests. THEN he can go
calling everybody else "pansies".

Maybe HE feels like HE "lost."

Me and Legume will meet Fred Reed, AND God, AND bin Laden behind the
old church in Jonesboro tomorrow night -- and if you aren't there
you're a FAG!!

--
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Resurrected
P.O. Box 181417, Cleveland, OH 44118 (fax 216-320-9528)
A subsidiary of:
The SubGenius Foundation, Inc. / P.O. Box 140306, Dallas, TX 75214
SubSITE: http://www.subgenius.com PRABOB
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Subject: Re: The Price Of Pansyhood
From: Fernandinande of Lemuria <lemurama@mindXspring.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.slack
Reply-To: lemurama@mindXspring.com
Date: Thu, Sep 13, 2001 11:42 AM
Message-ID: <luk1qt0hqf47b7m7g8n544sshfh00a6us7@4ax.com>

On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:49:15 -0400, "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
wrote:

->In article <7wWn7.200$2U3.60342325@news2.randori.com>, Ricky Nielsen
-><Rickyn@lor.net> wrote:
->
->> My thoughts on this
->> Fernandinande of Lemuria wrote in message ...
->> >http://www.fredoneverything.net/NewYork.html
->> >(September 12)
->> >
->> >The World Trade Center
->> >The Price Of Pansyhood
->> >
->
->
->Fred Reed is a big homo, nyah nyah, nyah nyah. Unless he stops whining
->and simpering from his pussy-ass girlie-boy website, HIDING inside the
->INTERNET with his whimpering little prissy TYPED complaints, and GETS
->REAL, and LEADS this invasion of Libya he suggests. THEN he can go
->calling everybody else "pansies".
->
->Maybe HE feels like HE "lost."
->
->Me and Legume will meet Fred Reed, AND God, AND bin Laden behind the
->old church in Jonesboro tomorrow night -- and if you aren't there
->you're a FAG!!

You're a half-wit.
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Subject: Re: The Price Of Pansyhood
From: none@yerbiz.com (Legume)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.slack
Date: Thu, Sep 13, 2001 2:40 PM
Message-ID: <Xns911B954AC7DB7CortezLegume18465086@24.12.106.199>

Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:

> Me and Legume will meet Fred Reed, AND God, AND bin Laden behind the
> old church in Jonesboro tomorrow night -- and if you aren't there
> you're a FAG!!

That's right, we're gonna hang a PACK up your asses.

--
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Looking for the New World
and the Palace in the Sun

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Subject: Re: The Price Of Pansyhood
From: none@yerbiz.com (Legume)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.slack
Date: Thu, Sep 13, 2001 2:41 PM
Message-ID: <Xns911B9577A69CFCortezLegume18465086@24.12.106.199>

Fernandinande of Lemuria wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:49:15 -0400, "Rev. Ivan Stang"
> <stang@subgenius.com> wrote:
> ->Me and Legume will meet Fred Reed, AND God, AND bin Laden behind the
> ->old church in Jonesboro tomorrow night -- and if you aren't there
> ->you're a FAG!!
>
> You're a half-wit.

Damn right! Me too!
--
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Dr. K. "Cortez" Legume

Looking for the New World
and the Palace in the Sun
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Subject: Re: The Price Of Pansyhood
From: "Joe Cosby" <joecosby@mindspring.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.slack
Date: Thu, Sep 13, 2001 3:57 PM
Message-ID: <9nr237$plq$1@slb7.atl.mindspring.net>

I emailed him from his web site.

***

You drooling fuckwit.

So you think that we were bombed because we are 'pansies'?

Maybe if we had spread more death, maybe if we had instigated a
genocide they'd RESPECT us like MEN, huh?

There isn't an ounce of rational thought in your article.

Just some vague inference that the slaughter of thousands of innocent
civilians happened because we weren't MAN enough.

Go take some Viagra and shut the fuck up.

WAR you fuckwit is the DISEASE. The means to the end don't matter
because the only sane end to aim at is the END of WAR. WAR is a
disease which mankind can no longer tolerate. The DISEASE has to be
dealt with, not some adolescent wet dream you never grew out of.

The utter blinking stupidity of what you wrote leaves me completely at
a loss. I would normally love nothing better than arguing down a
moron like you publicly but the utter lack of -any- thread of rational
meaning in your drivel leaves me with no place to start.

WAR is the fucking DISEASE you utter twitching moron. And your stupid
shallow SHIT is exactly why ten millenia of human civilization have
been insufficient to cure the fucking DISEASE. YOU motherfucker are a
CARRIER of the disease.

As if that isn't enough to leave me hating you, you then have the gall
to dignify the mass slaughter of innocent civilians as an honorable
act and to dignify those who perpetrated it as honorable soldiers
rather than the TWISTED MURDERING MANIPULATED RELIGIOUS FANATICS that
they are. That pushes me beyond all limits.

If you want to see what kind of panty waists those who favor peace
are, my home address is:

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

My phone number is

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Feel free to call and set up a time and we can discuss this face to
face and I swear to GOD I will stomp your teeth down your throat.

--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com

But if we aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made out
of meat?

Sig by Kookie Jar 5.98d http://go.to/generalfrenetics/
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Subject: Re: The Price Of Pansyhood
From: "James N. Stewart" <jnstewar@csj.net>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.slack
Date: Thu, Sep 13, 2001 8:13 PM
Message-ID: <tq2iqpda8md633@corp.supernews.com>

"Fernandinande of Lemuria" <lemurama@mindXspring.com> wrote in message
news:gk00qtgjfa02bq23ckf4onuped8u1p62bt@4ax.com...
> http://www.fredoneverything.net/NewYork.html
> (September 12)

> (6) The Israelis, when hit, hit back. They hit back hard. But
> Israel is run by men. We are run by women. . . .

So, you advocate killing many innocent civilians in retaliation. Very
civilized. You'll show 'em. Show 'em what a man you are. Maybe you
could knock down some houses and steal some land whiile you're at it. Maybe
you can show 'em how a MAN does revenge, bu then, how would you know? How
old are you, ten?
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Subject: Re: can you say...
From: "LXIX" <post_replys_please@this.address.is.invalid>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.slack
Date: Wed, Sep 12, 2001 9:41 PM
Message-ID: <d9Un7.295904$Jg.39319205@typhoon.kc.rr.com>

"Maryann Krupka" wrote
> ...Fall of Rome?

No. Regardless of what some folks would like to think
the WTC is not the core of the United States. Nor is the
Pentagon the core of our Defense Department.

> Fernandinande of Lemuria wrote:
>
> > http://www.fredoneverything.net/NewYork.html
> > (September 12)
> >
> > The World Trade Center
> > The Price Of Pansyhood
> >
> > A few unorganized thoughts regarding the events in New York:

Just because the civilian world isn't hearing
something does not mean it's not in the works.
They call them secrets for a reason.

Read into what has been said.

The President has stated we will go after the terrorist and
the support country.

The Senate and House have both said they will support the
Presidents decision no matter what.

Rumsfield has ordered all the DoD personnel to shut the
fusck up with regard to classified information.

Popular opinion is running (according to CNN) 80% +-4% in favor
of military action. "war"

This is not a clear case as Pearl Harbor was so it will take
some time to identify the culprit(s).

--LXIX--
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Subject: Re: can you say...
From: Maryann Krupka <mkrupka@nyc.rr.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.slack
Reply-To: mkrupka@nyc.rr.com
Date: Wed, Sep 12, 2001 9:58 PM
Message-ID: <3BA03CDF.2C404010@nyc.rr.com>

Who gives a shit. it's about how the mob takes it(and took it)

LXIX wrote:

> "Maryann Krupka" wrote
> > ...Fall of Rome?
>
> No. Regardless of what some folks would like to think
> the WTC is not the core of the United States. Nor is the
> Pentagon the core of our Defense Department.
>
> > Fernandinande of Lemuria wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.fredoneverything.net/NewYork.html
> > > (September 12)
> > >
> > > The World Trade Center
> > > The Price Of Pansyhood
> > >
> > > A few unorganized thoughts regarding the events in New York:
>
> Just because the civilian world isn't hearing
> something does not mean it's not in the works.
> They call them secrets for a reason.
>
> Read into what has been said.
>
> The President has stated we will go after the terrorist and
> the support country.
>
> The Senate and House have both said they will support the
> Presidents decision no matter what.
>
> Rumsfield has ordered all the DoD personnel to shut the
> fusck up with regard to classified information.
>
> Popular opinion is running (according to CNN) 80% +-4% in favor
> of military action. "war"
>
> This is not a clear case as Pearl Harbor was so it will take
> some time to identify the culprit(s).
>
> --LXIX--
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Subject: Re: can you say...
From: "Rev. Poindexter" <poindexter@subgenius.invalid>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.slack
Date: Wed, Sep 12, 2001 10:14 PM
Message-ID: <120920012214162937%poindexter@subgenius.invalid>

In article <d9Un7.295904$Jg.39319205@typhoon.kc.rr.com>, LXIX
<post_replys_please@this.address.is.invalid> wrote:

> This is not a clear case as Pearl Harbor was so it will take
> some time to identify the culprit(s).
>
> --LXIX--

Thank you. I've made much the same argument with a few Neaderthals in
the percussion newsgroup who are calling for the death of all
"towelheads".

Not all of them folks, just the perps, and their buddies - in the most
degrading, painful and humiliating way possible. There's gotta be a way
to die that the Koran considers dishonorable. Maybe to be beheaded
while a pig fucks them up the ass?

RP

--
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Subject: Re: can you say...
From: nu-monet <nothing@succeeds.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.slack
Reply-To: like.excess@sex.org
Date: Wed, Sep 12, 2001 10:56 PM
Message-ID: <3BA02046.302C@succeeds.com>

Rev. Poindexter wrote:
>
> There's gotta be a way to die that the Koran
> considers dishonorable. Maybe to be beheaded
> while a pig fucks them up the ass?
>

The traditional means(*) was to sew them up in
a pigskin, then hang them in the sun. You get
extra bonus points by telling them that when
they are dead, their body will be segmented and
the pieces fed to dogs.

(*)British, in India. Particularly with Pathans.

--
"Nature abhors a peasant. You will soon see
a violent demonstration of this fact."
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Subject: Re: can you say...
From: Artemia Salina <y2k@sheayright.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.slack
Date: Thu, Sep 13, 2001 4:11 AM
Message-ID: <3BA06A1A.29EC6FC9@sheayright.com>

"Rev. Poindexter" wrote:
>
> In article <d9Un7.295904$Jg.39319205@typhoon.kc.rr.com>, LXIX
> <post_replys_please@this.address.is.invalid> wrote:
>
> > This is not a clear case as Pearl Harbor was so it will take
> > some time to identify the culprit(s).
> >
> > --LXIX--
>
> Thank you. I've made much the same argument with a few Neaderthals in
> the percussion newsgroup who are calling for the death of all
> "towelheads".
>
> Not all of them folks, just the perps, and their buddies - in the most
> degrading, painful and humiliating way possible. There's gotta be a way
> to die that the Koran considers dishonorable. Maybe to be beheaded
> while a pig fucks them up the ass?

A pointless and childish act like that might feel good for the short
term, but to be realistic, we know that we could never get them all,
and even if we did, there's always a new generation of them waiting
in the wings.

What's really needed, and it's something that I TRULY lust for,
is to once and for all get over our dependence on their oil. Imagine
how devastating it would be to them if their oil were suddenly and
forever to become worthless. You talk about degrading ways of killing
them, as many do. How about starving their entire population back
to the stone age? Closing the economic and diplomatic doors on the
middle east completely, and letting them beat each other to death
with rocks till the sun goes super nova.

That's MY idea of just revenge.

I think it's ironic that we effectively PAY our farmers NOT to grow
grain, when that very grain could be used to make fuel grade alcohol.

--
Artemia Salina -- http://www.drpez.com/drali1.htm
Born in 1921 and still kicking.

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Subject: Re: can you say...
From: "Joe Cosby" <joecosby@mindspring.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.slack
Date: Thu, Sep 13, 2001 3:39 PM
Message-ID: <9nr14c$j4r$1@slb4.atl.mindspring.net>

nu-monet <nothing@succeeds.com> wrote in message
news:3BA02046.302C@succeeds.com...
> Rev. Poindexter wrote:
> >
> > There's gotta be a way to die that the Koran
> > considers dishonorable. Maybe to be beheaded
> > while a pig fucks them up the ass?
> >
>
> The traditional means(*) was to sew them up in
> a pigskin, then hang them in the sun. You get
> extra bonus points by telling them that when
> they are dead, their body will be segmented and
> the pieces fed to dogs.
>
> (*)British, in India. Particularly with Pathans.

The KGB used to do similar things to terrorists in Afghanistan.

The one thing they made absolutely sure of was that they -didn't- die,
because then they would go to heaven. They left them alive and did
all they could to pollute them and make them unsuitable for Uncle
Allah.

That ham sandwich starts to look mighty tempting after a couple weeks.

--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com

Without God, people might get more specific.
- Andrei Codrescu

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Subject: Re: can you say...
From: "Joe Cosby" <joecosby@mindspring.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.slack
Date: Thu, Sep 13, 2001 3:41 PM
Message-ID: <9nr14g$r8b$1@slb3.atl.mindspring.net>

Rev. Poindexter <poindexter@subgenius.invalid> wrote in message
news:120920012214162937%poindexter@subgenius.invalid...
> In article <d9Un7.295904$Jg.39319205@typhoon.kc.rr.com>, LXIX
> <post_replys_please@this.address.is.invalid> wrote:
>
> > This is not a clear case as Pearl Harbor was so it will take
> > some time to identify the culprit(s).
> >
> > --LXIX--
>
> Thank you. I've made much the same argument with a few Neaderthals
in
> the percussion newsgroup who are calling for the death of all
> "towelheads".

That's what scares me.

If this becomes a race issue then it could start getting pretty
horrible.

We've been watching genocides going on for years in the rest of the
world, I don't want to see it here

--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com

I had a co-worker pestering me today, asking me if I was going
to wear something green for St. Patty's day. I finally told 'em,
"Yeah. I'm not going to brush my teeth tonight or tomorrow."
-- Artemia Salina

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Subject: Re: The Price Of Pansyhood
From: none@yerbiz.com (Legume)
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.slack
Date: Fri, Sep 14, 2001 11:43 AM
Message-ID: <Xns911C776ABD0D9CortezLegume18465086@24.12.106.199>

info wrote:

> Can I still be a fag if I am there?

Only if you bring a date.
--
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Dr. K. "Cortez" Legume

Looking for the New World
and the Palace in the Sun
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Subject: Re: The Price Of Pansyhood
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.slack,alt.slack
Date: Fri, Sep 14, 2001 1:13 PM
Message-ID: <140920011313465211%stang@subgenius.com>

> In article <7wWn7.200$2U3.60342325@news2.randori.com>, Stang wrote:
>
> > My thoughts on this
> > Fernandinande of Lemuria wrote in message ...
> > >http://www.fredoneverything.net/NewYork.html
> > >(September 12)
> > >
> > >The World Trade Center
> > >The Price Of Pansyhood
> > >
>
> Fred Reed is a big homo, nyah nyah, nyah nyah. Unless he stops whining
> and simpering from his pussy-ass girlie-boy website, HIDING inside the
> INTERNET with his whimpering little prissy TYPED complaints, and GETS
> REAL, and LEADS this invasion of Libya he suggests. THEN he can go
> calling everybody else "pansies".
>
> Maybe HE feels like HE "lost."
>
> Me and Legume will meet Fred Reed, AND God, AND bin Laden behind the
> old church in Jonesboro tomorrow night -- and if you aren't there
> you're a FAG!!

>In article <3BA1BBE2.C51423C7@iprc.org>, info <info@iprc.org> wrote:

> Can I still be a fag if I am there?

No problem! We have nothing against homos unless they're PINKS. (Like
all human non-Sub subgroups, most of them are.)

>
> Ignatz Topolino
>
> 33rd Degree Rollercoastafarian, Sexton and Thereminister,
> Second Metropolitan Church of the Art of Jesus Christ the Conductor
> ---

> >
> > Me and Legume will meet Fred Reed, AND God, AND bin Laden behind the
> > old church in Jonesboro tomorrow night -- and if you aren't there
> > you're a FAG!!
> >

Of course I was using the term for effect -- this Fred Reed genius
having called everybody else "pansies" for not already colonizing
Libya, I sorta wanted to turn it around.

I probably should have said "SISSY," or "WUSS," not "FAG," since lots
of fags are actually real tough and lots of Norm Boys are scaredy-cat
pussies -- often the ones who yell "FAG" the loudest.

But "fag" just sounds so much funnier in that context.

Speaking of bad taste and never being P.C., the fact that I am still
alive after the radio show we did last night on ESO Swamp Radio, with
call-ins from Legume and Evangela (and M. Turyn), PROVES that the Con
in America is WEAKER than it is in many countries. We'd have all been
beheaded (or re-headed) in some lands for the things we said about OUR
OWN SELVES, much less what we said about knock-kneed weak-willed mealy
mouthed know-nothing freedom-sacrificing liberals, and troglodytic
just-like-the-Talaban right-wing corporate-slave willfully-ignorant
hate-milking racist war mongers.

At the end of the show we all agreed that everyone who disagreed with
us in our War Against God should join the Army and be all that they can
be.

Of the 3 regular stooges, Dave represented the leftist peacenik, Chas
the "Let God Sort 'Em Out" side, and I as usual was the two faced
middle of the road fence straddling isolationist/escapist. Legume
perfectly represented the PatrioPsychotic AnarchoMaterialist madman
with a dream. Evengela gave a report on the war as if written by an 8
year old that ended with the phrase, "And God is a very bad man."

We also all agreed that a lot of the problem on ALL sides was that men
and women alike were forgetting TITTY. TITTY again became a point of
agreement. Mainly that a lot of people had PROBLEMS with titty instead
of APPRECIATION for same.

The day of the attacks, I noticed that a lot of the upset people on IRC
(myself included) had sudden urges to either eat or get laid, or both.
In the days that followed, I found myself getting SOLACE from editing
the TITTY PICTURES that Princess Wei and Philo took at Burning Man. In
fact, I wrote up a little rant about the glories of soft round things
versus hard sharp things yesterday, BEFORE the show, in preparation for
POSTING said titty picture. I had no idea that the other show guys
would also be all titty-driven.

I am aware that all this titty talk might seem to TRIVIALIZE and DEMEAN
the sacrifices and suffering of our fellow bipeds. But, just as I
believe that sick humor is a valid response to unthinkable horror for
many people, by the same token I like to feel the same about titties.
Indeed I like to just simply feel titties.

And I am sure that if the industrial West pours enough money into it,
trained professionals and paid finks will manage to apprehend the
cultprits. After that, unfortunately, they'll probably get paid by
Simon & Schuster to sit in nice jails and write their autobiographies,
like Noriega. Who knows, maybe, like Noriega, these Muslim extremists
will be "saved" and be forgiven by Jesus.

Let God and Mammon duke it out.

Incidentally, I don't mean to exlude fags with all this talk about
titty. I'm sure the same thing applies perfectly well to dicks, butts,
armpits etc., depending on the individual's personal, eh, tastes.

--
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Resurrected
P.O. Box 181417, Cleveland, OH 44118 (fax 216-320-9528)
A subsidiary of:
The SubGenius Foundation, Inc. / P.O. Box 140306, Dallas, TX 75214
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