From: nenslo@teleport.com (NENSLO)
Date: 5 Sep 1995

[ Author was Jim Vandewalker ]
[ Posted on Mon, 04 Sep 1995 16:58:30 -0500 ]

*Wired* Magazine, The Asshole of the Digital Generation published a review
this month of Diane Kossey's book *Kooks: A Guide to the Outer Limits of
Human Belief* and for no good reason whatsoever, other than the editors
and writers think they're smart-asses, found it necessary to sneer at Rev
Ivan Stang: "Her book provides a welcome and timely update to Ivan Stang's
*High Weirdness by Mail*. Unlike Stang, Kossy has a genuine, if sometimes
uncomfortable, affection for her subjects."

Huhn. Them dumasses ever look at the Holy Sub-Site?

Nenslo replies: Dang me. Dang me. Oughta take a rope and hang me.

I was just going to let this pass because the many glaring flubs
almost make it look like deliberate self-parody and jimvan has posted
lots of pretty UNSTUPID things in the past but there are so many total
fluffheads who read any newsgroup there might be an awful lot who would,
god forbid, take this misinformation and run with it.

I would be the last guy, well, not the LAST guy on earth to say
that WIRED has any redeeming social value or deserves to exist AT ALL,
except for the fact that it continues to throw chunks of money and free
publicity at a very few people who really deserve it, like forinstance MY
WIFE *DONNA KOSSY*, author of Kooks, and the cruelly-insulted Rev. Ivan
Stang who made a fat chunk of pocket change off the nubbin he wrote about
Mark Mothersbaugh elsewhere inthat issue. Add to it the fact that the
LEAST smarmy and "profit-first, think-later" item in the issue is by Jay
Kinney, a SubGenius who is so much of a SubGenius he now REPUDIATES ALL
CONNECTION with the church. Wired also printed a multipage story on Art
God Paul Mavrides with fullpage color portrait and numerous reproductions
of some of his art which was SHALLOW ENOUGH (as he himself will tell you)
for them to understand.

Of course WIRED sucks since it's not only utterly conscienceless
but designed specifically to sell to UNJUSTIFIABLY AND UNFAIRLY WEALTHY young white male compugeeks the idea that they are actually Sexy Adventurers making the world a better place by making bigger and better profits for their corporations. And don't be STUPID ENOUGH to snigger
that I'm "just jealous" of pimply nasal technodweebs making eighty grand a
year, I am also HATEFUL of them.

WIRED is totally disposable. Hardly ANYTHING in it is going to be
worth looking at three months from now.

That's how things WORK. You look in the latest edition of
Harper's, which is supposed to be pretty intellectual and stuff, and you
get twopage spread automobile ads for things called EXPLORER and
PATHFINDER that tell you they want to help the "environment" so bad they
use "ozone friendly chemicals" in their seatcover-shrinking process.
And of course the usual fullpage liquor ads that show you how Sexy and
Sophisticated BOOZE is, with a tiny tagline saying "people who appreciate
quality do so responsibly." An UTTERLY MEANINGLESS PLATITUDE which is
supposed to make us feel like these folks REALLY CARE about us. But not
enough to stop MAKING HUGE PROFITS poisoning, smashing down, killing
anything that a buck can be squeezed out of.

That's the new way we have of doing things around here.

Give Wired THIS much credit. They don't PRETEND to give a shit.

That, and they actually noticed that Stang was DELIBERATELY
MAKING FUN OF most of the folks he wrote about in High Weirdness. Didn't
you notice that? I did.

-Copyright NENSLO KDV 1995-
Send One Dollar to box 86582 Portland OR 97286


From: i.stang@metronet.com (Rev. Ivan Stang)

(Matthew Carey) wrote:

> In a previous article, i.stang@metronet.com (Rev. Ivan Stang) says:
> >of fresh air after all the sarcastic capsule reviews done by all the
> >millions upon millions of fanzine writers who imitated me, and who are
> >probably pulling down actual salaries for doing so, right about now.
> Well, if it makes you feel any better, Stang, I imitate you "religiously"
> and I'm completely broke!!!

Oh, that's a relief. That DOES make me feel better.


Copyright 1995 by Rev. Ivan Stang / 1st Orthodox Stangian
MegaFisTemple Lodge of People's Covenant Church of the
Wrath of Dobbs Yeti, Resurrected / The SubGenius Foundation,Inc.
PO Box 140306 Dallas TX 75214 / Fax 214-320-1561 / PRABOB
http://www.subgenius.com -- SubSITE of Slack


From: nenslo@teleport.com (NENSLO)

Jim Vandewalker (jimvan@gate.net) wrote:

: Dammit, *I* din't get no article in WIRED. Wouldn't catch me badmouthing
: 'em if I had. STANG got a piece published. KINNEY got a piece
: published. KOSSY got a good review. Tell me again, WHY do we hate

Nenslo rplies:

Well, for one thing because Stang was right, it WAS mondo 2000
that did the Mavrides thing. I get those dork-mags mixed up.

Jimvan, just read a copy. If you don't feel cheated just for the
time you spent on it I'll come kill you myself.


From: bmyers@ionet.net (TarlaStar)

nenslo@teleport.com (NENSLO) wrote:

> I was just going to let this pass because the many glaring flubs
>almost make it look like deliberate self-parody and jimvan has posted
>lots of pretty UNSTUPID things in the past but there are so many total
>fluffheads who read any newsgroup there might be an awful lot who would,
>god forbid, take this misinformation and run with it.

NENSLO...who gives a raving fuck about the dumbshits who run with it?
The point is, and you state it yourself, that WIRED (even though it's
pink to the bone) is doing Dobbs' will. Thusfar they've mentioned
Stang, Kossey, Mavrides, and they have Kinney working there. This has
to have some ripple effect in the Universe. Eventually it will result
in saved souls. In the short run, it's resulting in increasing the
amount on the credit side of Vandewalker's bank account, and anytime a
SubGenius recieves some cash from the CON, I'm not complaining.

There's a fine line that has to be walked if you want to get published
and still retain any sort of integrity. You can't give them the WHOLE
truth. They won't pay for that. Instead, they must be spoonfed tiny
bites until they develop a taste for it.

I'm GLAD that Jim got an article in WIRED. I'm glad he's spending
their money. Who cares if it doesn't stick in anyone's head for more
than three months? Shit most Pinks can't remember their own spouse's
birthday, and we're expecting them to retain information for three
months? The ones who NEED the info, the ones who will benefit from the
hint of direction, will get it no matter how subtlely it is presented.
Reverend Mutha Tarla, Little Sisters of the Perpetually Juicy,
A Proud Jism Schism of the Church of the SubGenius, Worshipping
"Connie" Dobbs and Juicy Retardo since 1986

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