>From: bmyers@ionet.net (TarlaStar)
>Subject: Re: Help my Daddy! <pout, pout>
>Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 15:08:50 GMT
[Major snipage]
>The terms "whore" and "sleazy" have no place in any discussion of Our
>Lady of Dobbs.
When I brought up the term 'whore' I meant it in the western culture
whore vs maddona archetype dichotomy sense of the word. Obviously
neither fits Mizz Connie, but us westerners are so fucked up in
our culture that we have only a limited number of ways to 'look'
at womyn.
Do you have any better ways? Maybe we can work toward a solution
starting here, starting now.
Pastor Craig
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From: nickie@mars.superlink.net ( Rev. Nickie)
Organization: Deathchick, Inc.
In article <47017b$onf@ionews.ionet.net>, bmyers@ionet.net (TarlaStar) wrote:
> I see "Connie" as practical, adaptable, and honest (in a way) about
> her desires and goals. Is there a single term for that kind of woman?
"Cool."
--
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-----Rev. Nickie
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From: Timothy Verry <verryta@taft.law.uc.edu>
On Sun, 29 Oct 1995, TarlaStar wrote:
> craig@cpcn.com (Pastor Craig) wrote:
>
> >When I brought up the term 'whore' I meant it in the western culture
> >whore vs maddona archetype dichotomy sense of the word.
>
> >Do you have any better ways? Maybe we can work toward a solution
> >starting here, starting now.
>
> I see "Connie" as practical, adaptable, and honest (in a way) about
> her desires and goals. Is there a single term for that kind of woman?
yeti.
The sleaze is in the eye of the beholder. The reason why it is hard to
sort out is that many people are conditioned to need degredation and
shame and guilt to enjoy (or even have) sex. Personally, I am attracted
to anything/everything that could be called "sleazy" in any meaning of
the word. But it is mostly because I see that as practical, adaptable,
and honest about one's goals, and add a resiliency to the mainstream
culture. Very attractive.
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From: bmyers@ionet.net (TarlaStar)
petehip@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Peter Hipwell) wrote:
>>I see "Connie" as practical, adaptable, and honest (in a way) about
>>her desires and goals. Is there a single term for that kind of woman?
>Heteroclite (in the good sense).
Excellent choice! I am a Heteroclite...I like it!
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From: gggor@io.com (gggor)
Don't you mean heteroclit??
GGG
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From: cuthulu@prysm.com (cuthulu)
On Sat, 04 Nov 1995 14:09:35 GMT, bmyers@ionet.net (TarlaStar) wrote:
>Excellent choice! I am a Heteroclite...I like it!
Me, I'm hypercleesian.
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From: craig@cpcn.com (Pastor Craig)
Connie sticks here dick into anything she wants???? WOW!
My kinda woman.
As for a good word to describe Connie-like behavior, how about
'large and in charge'?
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From: drastic@camelot.bradley.edu (Gary Achenbach)
About this whole whore versus madonna thing.
Now, it's easy to think that the whore would win versus the madonna, every
time. I mean, the whore is tough and gritty and down to earth in the gritty
"I WILL fuck for money!" kind of way. The whore is tough, she exists through body lice and beta-test releases of venereal diseases; she endures constant beating by various pimps, and she does more drugs than Freud dreamt of, and all of that's just in the five minutes after waking up. An archetype that can blow upwards of fifty men a day and give 90% of the proceeds to an abusive pimp but still keep going is one fucking tough mama of an archetype.
The madonna, on the other hand, is an ivory tower, namby-pamby weak-willed quasi-she with no grasp of the world. She won't even fuck her HUSBAND, she doesn't even have a CUNT, for scrods' sake, or any other nasty bit. Look between the madonna's legs, (an impossibility, the madonna would never let you, but we can be hypothetical), and you'll see smoother skin then
on a Barbie doll. Because of all of this, most people immediately assume the
whore would kick the madonna's ass. I think it's much more of an even match-up then that, though.
You gotta keep in mind that the madonna is the archetype that birthed the
Fightin' Jesus. Shit, we've all heard how painful childbirth is, it's one
of the cornerstones of all comediennes. Imagine how painful childbirth is
when you've got filthy straw digging into your backside, you have a legitimate avatar of DEITY kicking the shit out of your womb, and you DON'T EVEN HAVE A BIRTH CANAL. Meanwhile, you have these fucking talking animals standing around, shitting in your only source of drinking water, giving you fleas and allergy reactions, the assholes in the inn just across from the manger are laughing it up, oh they're having a gay old time, but at least you can't see that because these three fucking slants have barricaded the door with crates of gold and incense and myrrh that's not for you, the MOTHER OF GOD, it's for the KID (what the FUCK does any deity need with worldly riches, anyway?) and meanwhile, this fucking dickless asshole named Joseph, the only man that's too much of a fucking wimp to want to marry a woman that not only has no cunt, but who is also PREGNANT, NOT TO MENTION the fact that, on top of the pain involved in birthing a Deity through a cuntless groin, you also have teenyears of shit backed up in your colon because you also don't have an ASSHOLE, and you've long since had uric acid poisoning, and even AFTER your groin gets ripped apart by Jesus' furious flying headbutts, things will only get WORSE, but you go on anyway, even though you're going to praised and worshipped at forever after by, God
help you, CATHOLICS...in my book, that's pretty fucking tough.
I say in the whore versus madonna battle, it's an even matchup. Come X-Day, we'll be able to watch it on pay-per-view.
--
The Reverend Gar Drastic aka Gary Achenbach aka drastic@camelot.bradley.edu
"Do I advocate another revolution? What do you mean, -another-? We have
yet to see the first. But it's coming." -- Edward Abbey
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