BOB is NOT ENOUGH: PASTORS MUST BE ORDAINED BY THE IRS



From: Tom Boericke
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Mon, Dec 31, 2001

Woe unto all. Yes, it's true: "The government doesn't want your
name of Scripture here>, they want your

!"  

In seminars all over the US, Chitwood and Chitwood of Chattanooga,
Tennessee, is repeating this startling announcement to pastors and church
leaders.  Without so much as a  blush, Michael Chitwood, the main  speaker,
says, besides the above quotes, "Pastor, if you don't get your house in
order, get ready, you are going to have a jail ministry" as he practically
screams out to those present as to what pastors and church leaders must do
to avoid jail time and the confiscation of church property by the federal
government.

http://www.indianapolisbaptisttemple.com/trumpet/irs.html
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From: nu-monet

Whew!  Looks like the decision to stay "for profit" and
"non-tax deductible" was a good one.  Sounds like they
are going to break a whole bunch of "churches" with this
one.


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From: Legume

nu-monet wrote:


>Sounds like they
> are going to break a whole bunch of "churches" with this
> one.

There IS a God, after all!



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From: nu-monet

Legume wrote:
>
> There IS a God, after all!
>

So the Nazis are fighting the Taliban.

Yay?

Gee, maybe we will be lucky and get invaded
from Mars.  The most they will do is suck
our brains out through straws.

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From: "glassgnost"

"nu-monet" wrote in message
news:3C30D4A7.3884@succeeds.com...
>
> Whew!  Looks like the decision to stay "for profit" and
> "non-tax deductible" was a good one.  Sounds like they
> are going to break a whole bunch of "churches" with this
> one.

Y'see? Bob KNEW that this was going to happen!

The Prophet-for-Profit was ahead of the game from the very start. Bob's in
it for the money, makes no apologies, and doesn't look to Uncle Sam to make
things a little easier for him. Bob takes care of himself and pays his
bills.

Funny thing is, all any of these churches has to do is let go of the tax
exemption. It's just that simple. By and large, they even have a mandate to
"render unto cesar that which is cesar's", but they just can't let it go.
And if you claim that your church is non-profit, then you shouldn't be
generating anything that would be taxable if you were running as a common
Corp or LLP in the first place.

IMO, any church that views IRS tax exemption as a badge of legitimacy has
effectively been beer-bonging smoking hot sulphurous diarrhea directly from
the asshole of the antichrist.

--
What would you do if the people you knew
Were the plastic that melted
And the chromium too?             - Frank Zappa

- dlindner (at) socal (dot) rr (dot) com -
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From: nu-monet

glassgnost wrote:
>
> IMO, any church that views IRS tax exemption as a
> badge of legitimacy has effectively been beer-bonging
> smoking hot sulphurous diarrhea directly from the
> asshole of the antichrist.
>

Yeah, but it still boils down to a simple proposition:

Who do you hate more, tax-free churches or the IRS?

Now sure, if the churches had their way, we would be
swinging from light poles, but to a great extent, they
haven't had their way.

But the IRS on the other hand:  who here has not
personally suffered seeing half of their earnings
taken away EVERY YEAR for bullshit that passeth all
understanding?

Who has really oppressed you more?

And, BTW, I have known many a preacher who lives hand
to mouth, ekeing a living from a collection plate for
him and his family.  Some of 'em were half decent.

I don't approve of the IRS taking away half a kids'
allowance, either.

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From: wbarwell@starbase.neosoft.com (William Barwell)

In article <3C310DBB.75DE@succeeds.com>, nu-monet   wrote:
>
>Yeah, but it still boils down to a simple proposition:
>
>Who do you hate more, tax-free churches or the IRS?
 
Tax free churches.  Though we hate taxes, taxes
are the price we pay for civilization.
Churches are superstition, hardly anything civilized
about the lies in a book written by ancient billy goat herders.
We can definitely do without this for sure.

Pope Charles
SubGenius Pope of Houston
Slack!
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From: HellPope Huey

In article <3C30D4A7.3884@succeeds.com>, nu-monet says...
>
>Whew! Looks like the decision to stay "for profit" and
>"non-tax deductible" was a good one.  Sounds like they
>are going to break a whole bunch of "churches" with this
>one.

Weeelllllll, the Bible sez that in the End Times, the governments of the world
will turn against religion, so this makes sense if you're the possessor of a
Nostrildamnus t-shirt and a different shade of aluminum hat for every day of the
week. They started with "Bob". Guess they'll begin working their way through the
list, even the poorer Babdist outlets, which will be particularly surprising,
since most of the government behaves like a pile-ridden backwoods minister who
disapproves of even his own need to take a dump. The cry will ring out across
the land, "TITHE OR KILL ME!!"

Of course, the Catholic church will cut a deal, just like they did with the
Nazis. After all, SOMEbody's gotta channel the AnnieChrist and they've got a
really socko marketing structure in place already. Toss in all that gold stuff
and that massive art collection & we're talkin' some juicy collateral with the
Bank o' Baphomet.

"Oh, I'M sorry, Lord, when they said MIDIan, I thought they were talkin' about
synthesizers, I didn't know they meant that Arab tribe who fought the
Israelites! If I can get Bubastis to lick the hand stamp off with her raspy
goddess tongue, can I get back in line fo' Hebbin?" Yeah, THAT'LL get me in the
express line for the fiery pit. Guess I'll just send in another $30 and take my
gawddamned chances with "BOB." I'm already so tainted, I may as well not switch
to a horse of a different color in midstream when the snake in the grass has the
fork in the road plunged into the fruits of evil on that platter at the
Brushwood snag bar. Too much philosophy makes me hungry for another slice of
haunch of Pink, so LET'S EAT!!  

 HellPope Huey, hellpopehuey@subgenius.com
      That's it, pick out the cashews,
        then bitch about the remaining peanuts

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From: Tesla Coil

On 31 Dec 2001, nu-monet wrote:
>
> Whew!  Looks like the decision to stay "for profit" and
> "non-tax deductible" was a good one.  Sounds like they
> are going to break a whole bunch of "churches" with this
> one.

Too much information on this case:
http://www.indystar.com/library/factfiles/religion/churches/baptist_temple/tax_dispute.html

And then precedents, etc., from the IRS:
http://www.irs.gov/prod/bus_info/tax_pro/irm-part/part07/36015a.html

[PDF] Application for Recognition of Exemption
Under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code.
http://ftp.fedworld.gov/pub/irs-pdf/k1023.pdf
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From: "St. Marc the Perpetually Amused"

On 12/31/01 8:21 PM, in article
822CC2E3DB96D54F.DEEC07D37A6CA218.02249902D64442B7@lp.airnews.net, "William
Barwell" wrote:

>  
> Tax free churches.  Though we hate taxes, taxes
> are the price we pay for civilization.

Please don't confuse government with civilization. If you have any further
questions, please dial "0" for the operator. Thank you for calling.

St. Marc
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From: joecosby@mindspring.com (Joe Cosby)

nu-monet hunched over a computer, typing
feverishly;
thunder crashed, nu-monet laughed madly, then
wrote:

>glassgnost wrote:
>
>Yeah, but it still boils down to a simple proposition:
>
>Who do you hate more, tax-free churches or the IRS?

I think if we all decided to worship the IRS it would create a black
hole and the whole government would be sucked into the phantom zone.

Worth a shot, anyway.

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jetzt fliege ich,
jetzt sehe ich mich unter mir,
jetzt tanzt ein Gott durch mich.
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